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Nominator's rationale:Delete. One album and a discography (which can be placed in the albums category) is not enough to warrant this category.
WP:OC#Eponymous --StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me23:12, 25 August 2013 (UTC)reply
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Category:The Narrative (band)
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Delete The albums category serves its function and no other related articles exist to warrant this level of categorization. --StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me23:15, 25 August 2013 (UTC)reply
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Category:Movies on ship hijackings
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Delete not a notable genre; and suffers the usual failings of "about" categories: how much about the subject must the film be and what reliable sources tell us it's at least that much.
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Category:Films by plot device
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Category:Groups that resisted the Greek military junta of 1967–74
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Nominator's rationale: Propose moving to a more inclusive name: organized political groups were few, but, especially within Greece, there were many individuals who resisted, or cases like the Navy mutiny of 1973, which cannot be attributed to a political "group". It is telling that the Greek WP has the more generic title "anti-dictatorial struggle" for its equivalent category.
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Category:Orienteering venues
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Nominator's rationale: The 7 articles currently in these categories are about parks etc where orienteering is just one of a range of activities that have taken place (hiking, camping, canoeing etc). I.e. orienteering is not a
WP:DEFINING characteristic of these places. This form of categorization may encourage even worse categories (e.g. see
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05:58, 25 August 2013 (UTC)reply
Delete, after listifying -- Like most venues categories, this is essentially a performance (=venue) by performer (sport or other activity). Categories such as this should only be allowed when the venue is only (or mainly) used for one sport, as with football and basketball stadia.
Peterkingiron (
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16:26, 25 August 2013 (UTC)reply
leaning delete This is defining for
French Creek State Park, as it has a permanent course, which I gather is uncommon. The others appear to be more of a matter of popularity as a locale for doing something which potentially can be done nearly anywhere.
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Category:Current bishoprics in Ireland
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Merge somehow -- preferably the second alternative. "Bishoprics" is being misused, when the ultimate contents are individual bishops. There is also a "former" category for merged or abolished diocese, which should be retained, but possibly renamed to match. It is useful to have defunct things kept separate, so that the present is not cluttered up by the past. However the target ought to called
Category:Church of Ireland bishops by diocese. The Church of Ireland is an independent church within the Anglican Communion, not the Irish branch of the Church of England.
Peterkingiron (
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16:16, 25 August 2013 (UTC)reply
Support the "current" category merges & renames per LaurelLodged. I'm not keen on the "former" category renames as the new names could include bishops who were translated from one diocese to another without either diocese being defunct.
Beeswaxcandle (
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03:32, 26 August 2013 (UTC)reply
The proper terms for starting and ending dioceses are erection and suppression. So technically should be "Bishops by supressed diocese in Ireland". However, I can see potential for emotive reactions to such a term with its implication, as a transitive verb, of a suppressor. "Defunct" is a more neutral term.
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Category:Follow on Incremental Capabilities
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Category:Recipients of the Order Of The National Flag (North Korea)
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Comment -- We do have categories for some national awards, including a lot of British ones. Being given by national authorities these are evidence of notability, but even then we need to be selective, as some awards are given too widely to be defining.
Peterkingiron (
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16:18, 25 August 2013 (UTC)reply
Awards given by national authorities are generally more notable than awards given by TV stations etc, but IMO it's not always so notable that it's necessarily defining of recipients. We've previously deleted some categories for recipients of things conferred by governments (e.g.
honorary_citizens,
medals,
orders).
DexDor (
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05:46, 26 August 2013 (UTC)reply
Delete (instead of comment above). The recipients (almost) all seem to be foreign political leaders, who are notable anyway, and not made more so by the award. Possibly Listify.
Peterkingiron (
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17:05, 28 August 2013 (UTC)reply
Delete per nom. I wish many of these would be deleted. But if these are going to exist at all, I think the first hurdle that must be faced is whether or not there is an article about the award. If there is not, then there should not be a category. In this case, there is not, so I would be in favour of deleting the category. If an article is ever created, this might be able to be reconsidered, but I would think a simple list contained in the article would be the way to go.
Good Ol’factory(talk)05:26, 27 August 2013 (UTC)reply
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Nominator's rationale:Delete. One album and a discography (which can be placed in the albums category) is not enough to warrant this category.
WP:OC#Eponymous --StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me23:12, 25 August 2013 (UTC)reply
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Category:The Narrative (band)
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Delete The albums category serves its function and no other related articles exist to warrant this level of categorization. --StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me23:15, 25 August 2013 (UTC)reply
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Category:Movies on ship hijackings
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Delete not a notable genre; and suffers the usual failings of "about" categories: how much about the subject must the film be and what reliable sources tell us it's at least that much.
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Category:Groups that resisted the Greek military junta of 1967–74
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Nominator's rationale: Propose moving to a more inclusive name: organized political groups were few, but, especially within Greece, there were many individuals who resisted, or cases like the Navy mutiny of 1973, which cannot be attributed to a political "group". It is telling that the Greek WP has the more generic title "anti-dictatorial struggle" for its equivalent category.
Constantine ✍ 17:02, 25 August 2013 (UTC)reply
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Category:Orienteering venues
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Nominator's rationale: The 7 articles currently in these categories are about parks etc where orienteering is just one of a range of activities that have taken place (hiking, camping, canoeing etc). I.e. orienteering is not a
WP:DEFINING characteristic of these places. This form of categorization may encourage even worse categories (e.g. see
this CFD).
DexDor (
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05:58, 25 August 2013 (UTC)reply
Delete, after listifying -- Like most venues categories, this is essentially a performance (=venue) by performer (sport or other activity). Categories such as this should only be allowed when the venue is only (or mainly) used for one sport, as with football and basketball stadia.
Peterkingiron (
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16:26, 25 August 2013 (UTC)reply
leaning delete This is defining for
French Creek State Park, as it has a permanent course, which I gather is uncommon. The others appear to be more of a matter of popularity as a locale for doing something which potentially can be done nearly anywhere.
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13:11, 26 August 2013 (UTC)reply
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Category:Current bishoprics in Ireland
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Merge somehow -- preferably the second alternative. "Bishoprics" is being misused, when the ultimate contents are individual bishops. There is also a "former" category for merged or abolished diocese, which should be retained, but possibly renamed to match. It is useful to have defunct things kept separate, so that the present is not cluttered up by the past. However the target ought to called
Category:Church of Ireland bishops by diocese. The Church of Ireland is an independent church within the Anglican Communion, not the Irish branch of the Church of England.
Peterkingiron (
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16:16, 25 August 2013 (UTC)reply
Support the "current" category merges & renames per LaurelLodged. I'm not keen on the "former" category renames as the new names could include bishops who were translated from one diocese to another without either diocese being defunct.
Beeswaxcandle (
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03:32, 26 August 2013 (UTC)reply
The proper terms for starting and ending dioceses are erection and suppression. So technically should be "Bishops by supressed diocese in Ireland". However, I can see potential for emotive reactions to such a term with its implication, as a transitive verb, of a suppressor. "Defunct" is a more neutral term.
Beeswaxcandle (
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03:08, 29 August 2013 (UTC)----reply
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Category:Recipients of the Order Of The National Flag (North Korea)
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Comment -- We do have categories for some national awards, including a lot of British ones. Being given by national authorities these are evidence of notability, but even then we need to be selective, as some awards are given too widely to be defining.
Peterkingiron (
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16:18, 25 August 2013 (UTC)reply
Awards given by national authorities are generally more notable than awards given by TV stations etc, but IMO it's not always so notable that it's necessarily defining of recipients. We've previously deleted some categories for recipients of things conferred by governments (e.g.
honorary_citizens,
medals,
orders).
DexDor (
talk)
05:46, 26 August 2013 (UTC)reply
Delete (instead of comment above). The recipients (almost) all seem to be foreign political leaders, who are notable anyway, and not made more so by the award. Possibly Listify.
Peterkingiron (
talk)
17:05, 28 August 2013 (UTC)reply
Delete per nom. I wish many of these would be deleted. But if these are going to exist at all, I think the first hurdle that must be faced is whether or not there is an article about the award. If there is not, then there should not be a category. In this case, there is not, so I would be in favour of deleting the category. If an article is ever created, this might be able to be reconsidered, but I would think a simple list contained in the article would be the way to go.
Good Ol’factory(talk)05:26, 27 August 2013 (UTC)reply
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