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Nominator's rationale: Per
WP:SMALLCAT. Town has only one entry
...William 23:44, 27 October 2012 (UTC)reply
Even though I created the category, I agree that it should be merged-thank you-
RFD (
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Upmerge per nom.
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Category:Ambassadors of Czechoslovakia to countries in Asia
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Nominator's rationale:Upmerge. This category only has one subcategory and since
Category:Ambassadors of Czechoslovakia is also very small (4 subcategories currently) this is just creating an artificial intermediate level of categorization that makes it a little harder for readers to find what they're looking for.
Pichpich (
talk) 22:41, 27 October 2012 (UTC)reply
Merge per nominator. Our most heavily-populated category of "Ambassadors of foo" is
Category:Ambassadors of the United States, and it works fine without subdivision by region. There is no need to subdivide the much smaller coverage of Czech ambassadors. -
BrownHairedGirl(talk) • (
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Upmerge the regional subdivisions are entirely pointless and just beg us to have debates on Turkey, Cyprus and other countries that are hard to place.
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Upmerge -- Since there are slightly under 200 countries, it is unnecessary to have a continental split.
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Category:Black Panther Party members
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Nominator's rationale:Discuss. Of the categories housed in
Category:People by nationality and political party this appears to be the only one that uses "Foo Party members" rather than "Members of the Foo Party". The format should be standardized and I would like to use this nomination as a platform for choosing the standard. Personally I prefer the "Foo Party members" construction and would say do not rename this one. It's shorter, sounds less pretentious and corresponds more closely with what I perceive to be common English usage. If consensus is for "Foo Party members" then I am happy to help with the process of changing the others but honestly I didn't want to spend a bunch of time tagging all of the categories if the result was going to be just to change this one.
On a somewhat related note, is there some reason why the categories for Britishers use "people" instead of "members"?
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Category:Bishops of the Early Church
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The result of the discussion was:No consensus - Feel free to renominate. - jc37 00:36, 17 November 2012 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: The description "early" is too vague. It needs to be more precise. The cat scope defines itself as "Bishops of the early church, before the split into denominations such as the
East-West Schism of 1054." Other uses such as "ancient" usually refer to the pre-Constantinian period.
Laurel Lodged (
talk) 19:31, 27 October 2012 (UTC)reply
Question. I ran into this before with buildings. What is wrong with a rename to
Category:Christian bishops or maybe even
Category:Catholic bishops? After this point, we have catholic, eastern and protestant trees. So the more general name does not really hurt anything.
Vegaswikian (
talk) 22:09, 27 October 2012 (UTC)reply
Reply The only objection that I'd have to the above is that it would not lend itself to one of the paretn cats of
Category:Bishops by period as it might give the impression of being universal.
Laurel Lodged (
talk) 10:33, 29 October 2012 (UTC)reply
Rename per nom. I have to admit I would have figured that the term would have ended by around AD 600, or about 400+ years sooner than when this has it end, but this does have the advantage of having a clear cut-off which is what we want.John Pack Lambert (
talk) 03:52, 30 October 2012 (UTC)reply
Delete. Content at present is a POV fork from Roman Catholic Bishops. All the bishops in this category are Catholic bishops.
Benkenobi18 (
talk) 05:05, 30 October 2012 (UTC)reply
Keep -- The question of what is early can be dealt with in a short headnote.
Benkenobi18 is wrong. Several of the subcategories do not refer to Catholic bishops. Anyway, it must be questionable whether Byzantine bishops had any practical subjection to the Pope of Rome, as opposed to the Patriarchs of Constantinople or Antioch. If we must rename the target should be
Category:Christian Bishops before 1054, with the significance of this date being explained in a headnote.
Peterkingiron (
talk) 14:52, 2 November 2012 (UTC)reply
Comment. I'm still not convinced that the proposed or alternative names are correct options. Likewise, I'm not in favor of retaining the current name. If you follow up on what is behind classification of the early church, you wind up at
early Christianity (and
history of early Christianity) which places the time frame of the early church at years 30-325. That is well short of 1054 and before the East-West Schism. Given this, I'm leaning more towards
Category:Christian bishops as the rename target. I looked at {{Christian History}} and I'm not sure that this offers any alternatives for a name. At best it argues against the current name.
Vegaswikian (
talk) 06:16, 3 November 2012 (UTC)reply
What would be the name for category for the period following this?
Category:Post-Nicean/Pre East-West Schism Christian bishops? Also in doing more digging would
Category:Ante-Nicene Period work? This overlaps the early period, starts a bit later and ends at the same time. Where there any bishops before this period? Given this concerns here, why would trying to classify into periods rather then centuries be the best solution?
Vegaswikian (
talk) 18:20, 3 November 2012 (UTC)reply
Support new vote in principle and so withdraw my initial nomination. However, I'd agree with Vegaswikian that Ante-Nicene is more authentic of church terminology. So I'd prefer
Category:Bishops of the ante-Nicene period. I think that there should be a separate debate about what to call the period from 325 to 1054.
Laurel Lodged (
talk) 21:35, 4 November 2012 (UTC)reply
Comment The problem with Nicene and Post-Nicene Christian bishops is that it has no stopping point. That's a debate for another day.
Laurel Lodged (
talk) 21:35, 6 November 2012 (UTC)reply
Comment I do not care whether we use pre or ante, but will support the latter.
John Pack Lambert (
talk) 17:25, 7 November 2012 (UTC)reply
Comments: Names like "The Early Church" and "Post-Nicene Fathers" may seem vague to general readers but within academic circles they have fairly precise meanings. The last major landmark of Early Church History is the Council of Chalcedon in 451. The cut-off date depends on how different authors view handle the immediate consequences of the Council but 461 (The death of Pope Leo), or 476 (the Deposition of Romulus Augustulus) are often the symbolic final date.[n 1] With the exception of Gregory the Great (Pope 590-604), the Post-Nicene Fathers fall into the same period. Volume XIV of series ii is entitled "The Seven Ecumenical Councils" and thus ends with Nicea II in 787 but about two thirds of the volume deals with material from the Early Church as defined above and the inclusion of the last three councils is extremely logical but in itself it does not justify extending Post-Nicene further than 590 at the very latest.
In view of all this, the category is wrongly named and dragging in the Nicene Fathers whether Ante- or Post- does not cover the time line defined by the sub-categories. I favour something like "Category: Christian Bishops up till 1054" since the sub-categories are chronological and some readers may not be able to date the Great Schism. By the way, whoever the bishops currently included in the subcategories may be, conceptually the range of the category is wider than (Roman) Catholic Bishops and this is not a fork of that category.
^Henry Chadwick, Frend, Wand all wrote a "The Early Church" or a similar title which falls into this pattern. Deansley writing on the medieval church recognises this fact
Comment The term "The Early Church" is used, but I am not convinced that there is a consistent end date between the various usages. By calling this ante-nicene we will invoke a specific end date.
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Category:History books about society
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The result of the discussion was:Merge to
Category:History books by topic. Articles can of course be diffused to whichever appropriate subcategories. - jc37 00:26, 17 November 2012 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale:Upmerge Virtually all the books in both the source and target categories are about human history, and therefore, I would argue, about "society," in some way. This offshoot category does not aid navigation, imo, by making readers search both categories.
Shawn in Montreal (
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Merge per nom, although the articles will probably need to be put somewhere else eventually.
John Pack Lambert (
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Merge. What's next, history books about history?
Benkenobi18 (
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Partial merge -- The categories need to be upmerged, but the articles belong here. Then RenameCategory:Books about social history. This may need to be defended against those who will seek to say that everything is an aspect of society. I have to say that I do not know any of the works categorised.
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Category:California Redwoods
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Nominator's rationale: per apparent WP policy on category names for sports teams, the new name is Sacramento Mountain Lions, so it and all its subcats should be changed
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Category:Television series set in Van Nuys, California
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Nominator's rationale: This category has just one article (
It's Your Move, a sitcom that ran for just one season), and I see practically no potential for growth.
Van Nuys is a neighborhood in the city of
Los Angeles, so the L.A. category is an ideal target for merger.
szyslak (
t) 07:12, 27 October 2012 (UTC)reply
When I created the category I didn't know that Van Nuys wasn't its own city. OK to merge to LA
Fuddle (
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Merge per nom. With "set in x city" cats, we should generally assume they can cover the general metro area, especially since at times TV series settings are fuzzy.
John Pack Lambert (
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Merge. Seeing as the creator has agreed, this can be speedied.
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Category:Atlas Sound albums
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Category:Pre-1920 comedy film stubs
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Nominator's rationale: The
Category:1910s comedy film stubs films are already in a seperate subcategory, which can then be a subcategory of
Category:Comedy film stubs directly like the other decade subcategories. And the renamed category will also be a subcategory of
Category:Pre-1910 film stubs, as the stubs for three decades of films (1880s, 1890s & 1900s) are grouped together.
Hugo999 (
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Comment. While the Pre-1920 comedy film stubs category has about 21 pre-1910 articles at present, there is potential for growth with the number of articles in “comedy film stub” and also in “silent comedy stub” categories, many which could be pre-1910. Once the 2010s comedy film stub category is created, the overall comedy stub category could become a container category with the remaining articles in it put into subcategories.
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Category:Ranma ½ characters
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The result of the discussion was:upmerge all per Calathan's scheme. --
BrownHairedGirl(talk) • (
contribs) 19:56, 5 November 2012 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: Well, its only member is a list of characters. Wouldn't that already be redundant? No longer needed.
Narutolovehinata5tccsdnew 01:52, 27 October 2012 (UTC)reply
I merged the categories together into one entry, as they all apply to the same rationale.--十八 03:45, 27 October 2012 (UTC)reply
Upmerge/create and upmerge per Calathan, no prob with recreating if lots of chars get individual articles at a later date. --
Qetuth (
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Upmerge per non. I've already went ahead and create the base categories for Rave Master and Gakuen Alice since there are enough articles to establish a category for each of those series, or soon will be after the merge and I create the Gakuen Alice episode list. This doesn't appear to be a particularly good reason to have a one-article category. —Farix (
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c) 11:21, 31 October 2012 (UTC)reply
Upmerge -- These single article categories are a waste of space. It may be that the creator intends to create an article on each character, but precedent indicates that such articles get merged back into an article on the series (oe whatever) so that we again end off with a single article, or perhpas two -- an article on the series and a list of characters.
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Category:Schnuffel
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Nominator's rationale:Delete. With only songs and albums as child categories, there is no need for an eponymous cat here. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 00:23, 27 October 2012 (UTC)reply
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Category:Adele (singer) songs and Category:Adele (singer) albums
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The result of the discussion was:No rename.
Timrollpickering (
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Nominator's rationale These categories appear to have been renamed today without discussion. As we don't have an article concerning another recording artist named Adele, disambiguation of these categories seems unnecessary, and only serves to complicate matters. And besides, a move of this type should really have been discussed before it took place.
Paul MacDermott (
talk) 18:00, 27 October 2012 (UTC)reply
Keep I think it it better to them in line with the parent category and main article.
MaybeMaybeMaybe (
talk) 18:15, 27 October 2012 (UTC)reply
In which case you'd better rename
Book:Adele,
Template:Adele and
Adele discography because they're not in line with the main category and article. And why don't we have pages like Someone Like You (Adele (singer) song) while we're about it? Not to mention all those other single-named recording artists and others we have articles about. Time for a litle common sense, methinks. But if people don't want to go back to the previous versions, the redlinks should at least be redirect categories.
Paul MacDermott (
talk) 12:35, 28 October 2012 (UTC)reply
It seems a Bot is responsible for this. If we are to have these changess, it needs to be creating category redirects in its wake. I've created them for the above two categories, but may mention my thoughts on the Bot's talk page.
Paul MacDermott (
talk) 13:48, 28 October 2012 (UTC)reply
Keep. Best to keep the category names matching the head article. --
BrownHairedGirl(talk) • (
contribs) 13:19, 28 October 2012 (UTC)reply
Keep. It's not that the category needs to fall in line with the main article (see
San Francisco and
Category:San Francisco, California), but to be consistent with the naming of the parent category,
Category:Adele (singer), which does require disambiguation. Category and article disambiguation are treated differently, and what may make sense for one doesn't necessarily make sense for the other, which is why we don't need
Adele (singer) discography. --StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 16:33, 28 October 2012 (UTC)reply
There's really no need to disambiguate Adele related articles at all, because interestingly, we don't currently have
Category:Adele. I say we don't have it, but we will in about two minutes because I'm going to create it as a redirect. We also don't have any categories relating to anyone else with the name.
Paul MacDermott (
talk) 17:00, 28 October 2012 (UTC)reply
If somebody chooses to create categories for these subjects then the category can be updated accordingly, and presumably it would become a disambiguation page. At present, however, we don't have any so I don't see your concern.
Paul MacDermott (
talk) 21:47, 28 October 2012 (UTC)reply
Keep. It is normal for categories to be named after the article, which in this case is
Adele (singer). In all these proposed requests for move/renaming of categories to remove disambiguators nobody has yet shown me the benefit to Wikipedia, or more importantly, its readers, for the request. --
Richhoncho (
talk) 12:26, 1 November 2012 (UTC)reply
Comment So, who forgot to rename the categories in the navbox?
Paul MacDermott (
talk) 22:32, 2 November 2012 (UTC)reply
Oppose we should follow article disambiguation in category names.
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Nominator's rationale: Per
WP:SMALLCAT. Town has only one entry
...William 23:44, 27 October 2012 (UTC)reply
Even though I created the category, I agree that it should be merged-thank you-
RFD (
talk) 23:46, 27 October 2012 (UTC)reply
Upmerge per nom.
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Category:Ambassadors of Czechoslovakia to countries in Asia
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Nominator's rationale:Upmerge. This category only has one subcategory and since
Category:Ambassadors of Czechoslovakia is also very small (4 subcategories currently) this is just creating an artificial intermediate level of categorization that makes it a little harder for readers to find what they're looking for.
Pichpich (
talk) 22:41, 27 October 2012 (UTC)reply
Merge per nominator. Our most heavily-populated category of "Ambassadors of foo" is
Category:Ambassadors of the United States, and it works fine without subdivision by region. There is no need to subdivide the much smaller coverage of Czech ambassadors. -
BrownHairedGirl(talk) • (
contribs) 13:13, 28 October 2012 (UTC)reply
Upmerge the regional subdivisions are entirely pointless and just beg us to have debates on Turkey, Cyprus and other countries that are hard to place.
John Pack Lambert (
talk) 03:50, 30 October 2012 (UTC)reply
Upmerge -- Since there are slightly under 200 countries, it is unnecessary to have a continental split.
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Category:Black Panther Party members
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Nominator's rationale:Discuss. Of the categories housed in
Category:People by nationality and political party this appears to be the only one that uses "Foo Party members" rather than "Members of the Foo Party". The format should be standardized and I would like to use this nomination as a platform for choosing the standard. Personally I prefer the "Foo Party members" construction and would say do not rename this one. It's shorter, sounds less pretentious and corresponds more closely with what I perceive to be common English usage. If consensus is for "Foo Party members" then I am happy to help with the process of changing the others but honestly I didn't want to spend a bunch of time tagging all of the categories if the result was going to be just to change this one.
On a somewhat related note, is there some reason why the categories for Britishers use "people" instead of "members"?
Buck Winston (
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Category:Bishops of the Early Church
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The result of the discussion was:No consensus - Feel free to renominate. - jc37 00:36, 17 November 2012 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale: The description "early" is too vague. It needs to be more precise. The cat scope defines itself as "Bishops of the early church, before the split into denominations such as the
East-West Schism of 1054." Other uses such as "ancient" usually refer to the pre-Constantinian period.
Laurel Lodged (
talk) 19:31, 27 October 2012 (UTC)reply
Question. I ran into this before with buildings. What is wrong with a rename to
Category:Christian bishops or maybe even
Category:Catholic bishops? After this point, we have catholic, eastern and protestant trees. So the more general name does not really hurt anything.
Vegaswikian (
talk) 22:09, 27 October 2012 (UTC)reply
Reply The only objection that I'd have to the above is that it would not lend itself to one of the paretn cats of
Category:Bishops by period as it might give the impression of being universal.
Laurel Lodged (
talk) 10:33, 29 October 2012 (UTC)reply
Rename per nom. I have to admit I would have figured that the term would have ended by around AD 600, or about 400+ years sooner than when this has it end, but this does have the advantage of having a clear cut-off which is what we want.John Pack Lambert (
talk) 03:52, 30 October 2012 (UTC)reply
Delete. Content at present is a POV fork from Roman Catholic Bishops. All the bishops in this category are Catholic bishops.
Benkenobi18 (
talk) 05:05, 30 October 2012 (UTC)reply
Keep -- The question of what is early can be dealt with in a short headnote.
Benkenobi18 is wrong. Several of the subcategories do not refer to Catholic bishops. Anyway, it must be questionable whether Byzantine bishops had any practical subjection to the Pope of Rome, as opposed to the Patriarchs of Constantinople or Antioch. If we must rename the target should be
Category:Christian Bishops before 1054, with the significance of this date being explained in a headnote.
Peterkingiron (
talk) 14:52, 2 November 2012 (UTC)reply
Comment. I'm still not convinced that the proposed or alternative names are correct options. Likewise, I'm not in favor of retaining the current name. If you follow up on what is behind classification of the early church, you wind up at
early Christianity (and
history of early Christianity) which places the time frame of the early church at years 30-325. That is well short of 1054 and before the East-West Schism. Given this, I'm leaning more towards
Category:Christian bishops as the rename target. I looked at {{Christian History}} and I'm not sure that this offers any alternatives for a name. At best it argues against the current name.
Vegaswikian (
talk) 06:16, 3 November 2012 (UTC)reply
What would be the name for category for the period following this?
Category:Post-Nicean/Pre East-West Schism Christian bishops? Also in doing more digging would
Category:Ante-Nicene Period work? This overlaps the early period, starts a bit later and ends at the same time. Where there any bishops before this period? Given this concerns here, why would trying to classify into periods rather then centuries be the best solution?
Vegaswikian (
talk) 18:20, 3 November 2012 (UTC)reply
Support new vote in principle and so withdraw my initial nomination. However, I'd agree with Vegaswikian that Ante-Nicene is more authentic of church terminology. So I'd prefer
Category:Bishops of the ante-Nicene period. I think that there should be a separate debate about what to call the period from 325 to 1054.
Laurel Lodged (
talk) 21:35, 4 November 2012 (UTC)reply
Comment The problem with Nicene and Post-Nicene Christian bishops is that it has no stopping point. That's a debate for another day.
Laurel Lodged (
talk) 21:35, 6 November 2012 (UTC)reply
Comment I do not care whether we use pre or ante, but will support the latter.
John Pack Lambert (
talk) 17:25, 7 November 2012 (UTC)reply
Comments: Names like "The Early Church" and "Post-Nicene Fathers" may seem vague to general readers but within academic circles they have fairly precise meanings. The last major landmark of Early Church History is the Council of Chalcedon in 451. The cut-off date depends on how different authors view handle the immediate consequences of the Council but 461 (The death of Pope Leo), or 476 (the Deposition of Romulus Augustulus) are often the symbolic final date.[n 1] With the exception of Gregory the Great (Pope 590-604), the Post-Nicene Fathers fall into the same period. Volume XIV of series ii is entitled "The Seven Ecumenical Councils" and thus ends with Nicea II in 787 but about two thirds of the volume deals with material from the Early Church as defined above and the inclusion of the last three councils is extremely logical but in itself it does not justify extending Post-Nicene further than 590 at the very latest.
In view of all this, the category is wrongly named and dragging in the Nicene Fathers whether Ante- or Post- does not cover the time line defined by the sub-categories. I favour something like "Category: Christian Bishops up till 1054" since the sub-categories are chronological and some readers may not be able to date the Great Schism. By the way, whoever the bishops currently included in the subcategories may be, conceptually the range of the category is wider than (Roman) Catholic Bishops and this is not a fork of that category.
^Henry Chadwick, Frend, Wand all wrote a "The Early Church" or a similar title which falls into this pattern. Deansley writing on the medieval church recognises this fact
Comment The term "The Early Church" is used, but I am not convinced that there is a consistent end date between the various usages. By calling this ante-nicene we will invoke a specific end date.
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Category:History books about society
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The result of the discussion was:Merge to
Category:History books by topic. Articles can of course be diffused to whichever appropriate subcategories. - jc37 00:26, 17 November 2012 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale:Upmerge Virtually all the books in both the source and target categories are about human history, and therefore, I would argue, about "society," in some way. This offshoot category does not aid navigation, imo, by making readers search both categories.
Shawn in Montreal (
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Merge per nom, although the articles will probably need to be put somewhere else eventually.
John Pack Lambert (
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Merge. What's next, history books about history?
Benkenobi18 (
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Partial merge -- The categories need to be upmerged, but the articles belong here. Then RenameCategory:Books about social history. This may need to be defended against those who will seek to say that everything is an aspect of society. I have to say that I do not know any of the works categorised.
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Category:California Redwoods
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Nominator's rationale: per apparent WP policy on category names for sports teams, the new name is Sacramento Mountain Lions, so it and all its subcats should be changed
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Category:Television series set in Van Nuys, California
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Nominator's rationale: This category has just one article (
It's Your Move, a sitcom that ran for just one season), and I see practically no potential for growth.
Van Nuys is a neighborhood in the city of
Los Angeles, so the L.A. category is an ideal target for merger.
szyslak (
t) 07:12, 27 October 2012 (UTC)reply
When I created the category I didn't know that Van Nuys wasn't its own city. OK to merge to LA
Fuddle (
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Merge per nom. With "set in x city" cats, we should generally assume they can cover the general metro area, especially since at times TV series settings are fuzzy.
John Pack Lambert (
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Merge. Seeing as the creator has agreed, this can be speedied.
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Category:Atlas Sound albums
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Category:Pre-1920 comedy film stubs
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Nominator's rationale: The
Category:1910s comedy film stubs films are already in a seperate subcategory, which can then be a subcategory of
Category:Comedy film stubs directly like the other decade subcategories. And the renamed category will also be a subcategory of
Category:Pre-1910 film stubs, as the stubs for three decades of films (1880s, 1890s & 1900s) are grouped together.
Hugo999 (
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Comment. While the Pre-1920 comedy film stubs category has about 21 pre-1910 articles at present, there is potential for growth with the number of articles in “comedy film stub” and also in “silent comedy stub” categories, many which could be pre-1910. Once the 2010s comedy film stub category is created, the overall comedy stub category could become a container category with the remaining articles in it put into subcategories.
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Category:Ranma ½ characters
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The result of the discussion was:upmerge all per Calathan's scheme. --
BrownHairedGirl(talk) • (
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Nominator's rationale: Well, its only member is a list of characters. Wouldn't that already be redundant? No longer needed.
Narutolovehinata5tccsdnew 01:52, 27 October 2012 (UTC)reply
I merged the categories together into one entry, as they all apply to the same rationale.--十八 03:45, 27 October 2012 (UTC)reply
Upmerge/create and upmerge per Calathan, no prob with recreating if lots of chars get individual articles at a later date. --
Qetuth (
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Upmerge per non. I've already went ahead and create the base categories for Rave Master and Gakuen Alice since there are enough articles to establish a category for each of those series, or soon will be after the merge and I create the Gakuen Alice episode list. This doesn't appear to be a particularly good reason to have a one-article category. —Farix (
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Upmerge -- These single article categories are a waste of space. It may be that the creator intends to create an article on each character, but precedent indicates that such articles get merged back into an article on the series (oe whatever) so that we again end off with a single article, or perhpas two -- an article on the series and a list of characters.
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Category:Schnuffel
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Nominator's rationale:Delete. With only songs and albums as child categories, there is no need for an eponymous cat here. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 00:23, 27 October 2012 (UTC)reply
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Category:Adele (singer) songs and Category:Adele (singer) albums
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The result of the discussion was:No rename.
Timrollpickering (
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Nominator's rationale These categories appear to have been renamed today without discussion. As we don't have an article concerning another recording artist named Adele, disambiguation of these categories seems unnecessary, and only serves to complicate matters. And besides, a move of this type should really have been discussed before it took place.
Paul MacDermott (
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Keep I think it it better to them in line with the parent category and main article.
MaybeMaybeMaybe (
talk) 18:15, 27 October 2012 (UTC)reply
In which case you'd better rename
Book:Adele,
Template:Adele and
Adele discography because they're not in line with the main category and article. And why don't we have pages like Someone Like You (Adele (singer) song) while we're about it? Not to mention all those other single-named recording artists and others we have articles about. Time for a litle common sense, methinks. But if people don't want to go back to the previous versions, the redlinks should at least be redirect categories.
Paul MacDermott (
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It seems a Bot is responsible for this. If we are to have these changess, it needs to be creating category redirects in its wake. I've created them for the above two categories, but may mention my thoughts on the Bot's talk page.
Paul MacDermott (
talk) 13:48, 28 October 2012 (UTC)reply
Keep. Best to keep the category names matching the head article. --
BrownHairedGirl(talk) • (
contribs) 13:19, 28 October 2012 (UTC)reply
Keep. It's not that the category needs to fall in line with the main article (see
San Francisco and
Category:San Francisco, California), but to be consistent with the naming of the parent category,
Category:Adele (singer), which does require disambiguation. Category and article disambiguation are treated differently, and what may make sense for one doesn't necessarily make sense for the other, which is why we don't need
Adele (singer) discography. --StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 16:33, 28 October 2012 (UTC)reply
There's really no need to disambiguate Adele related articles at all, because interestingly, we don't currently have
Category:Adele. I say we don't have it, but we will in about two minutes because I'm going to create it as a redirect. We also don't have any categories relating to anyone else with the name.
Paul MacDermott (
talk) 17:00, 28 October 2012 (UTC)reply
If somebody chooses to create categories for these subjects then the category can be updated accordingly, and presumably it would become a disambiguation page. At present, however, we don't have any so I don't see your concern.
Paul MacDermott (
talk) 21:47, 28 October 2012 (UTC)reply
Keep. It is normal for categories to be named after the article, which in this case is
Adele (singer). In all these proposed requests for move/renaming of categories to remove disambiguators nobody has yet shown me the benefit to Wikipedia, or more importantly, its readers, for the request. --
Richhoncho (
talk) 12:26, 1 November 2012 (UTC)reply
Comment So, who forgot to rename the categories in the navbox?
Paul MacDermott (
talk) 22:32, 2 November 2012 (UTC)reply
Oppose we should follow article disambiguation in category names.
John Pack Lambert (
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