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- The result of the discussion was: rename. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 02:46, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: The members of this category are not episodes of Mystery Science Theater 3000, but actual films in their own right and the name should reflect this as it does in Category:Short films featured in Mystery Science Theater 3000 episodes. Personally I would rather delete this category altogether per (NON)DEFINING and WP:OC#TRIVIAL or even perhaps WP:OC#TOPTEN, because I doubt that being featured in a MST3000 episode is a defining characteristic for all 200 films categorized here, and instead refer readers to List of Mystery Science Theater 3000 episodes, but a previous discussion was closed as keep/rename with the rationale "Consensus here felt that this characteristic is defining for its content, and this rename appears to be the most suitable option", so I guess deletion is out of the question. jonkerz ♠talk 23:59, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
- Rename. Well done, Jonkerz, for anticipating the obvious objections in advance, some of which I would otherwise have raised. As there was a strong consensus before to keep/rename rather than listify & delete, then yes let's have a more accurate & informative name. As these films were not well-known before or apart from M3K, having this category will not result in category clutter on the article pages. – Fayenatic L ondon 13:52, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
- Rename per nom.-- Lenticel ( talk) 05:56, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
- Delete this is not a defining character of the films that are being categorized. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 20:59, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: rename all. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 02:42, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Ancient Greek archaeological sites in Greece to Category:Ancient Greek sites in Greece
- Propose merging Category:Roman archaeological sites in Greece to Category:Roman sites in Greece
- Propose renaming Category:Prehistoric archaeological sites in Europe to Category:Prehistoric sites in Europe
- Propose renaming Category:Bronze Age archaeological sites in Europe to Category:Bronze Age sites in Europe
- Propose renaming Category:Bronze Age archaeological sites in Greece to Category:Bronze Age sites in Greece
- Propose renaming Category:Iron Age archaeological sites in Europe to Category:Iron Age sites in Europe
- Propose renaming Category:Iron Age archaeological sites in Greece to Category:Iron Age sites in Greece
- Propose renaming Category:Stone Age archaeological sites in Europe to Category:Stone Age sites in Europe
- Propose renaming Category:Neolithic archaeological sites in Greece to Category:Neolithic sites in Greece
- Nominator's rationale: Within the hierarchy of category:Archaeological sites, the top categories for countries include the word "archaeological", whereas the top categories by period do not. Most of the intersection categories keep it short by just using "Foo sites in Bar", including those for Ancient Greek and Roman sites. Within the categories for the country Greece (see Category:Archaeological sites in Greece by period), most include the long word.
- Please, let's merge the first two one way or the other, as we don't need both. Note: There was a previous Cfd on 16 Sept just for the first nominated category merger, which was closed as No consensus. I have tidied up some of the contents since then. There was a similar CfD on the Roman one in 2009 with the same result. Neither attracted much comment, so this time I have notified WT:WikiProject Classical Greece and Rome, and widened the nomination, as suggested by the two closers.
- As for the Europe categories, look above/below/within and you will see that most others that are intersections with a location omit the word "archaeological".
- The last one is for renaming rather than merging because the target is an empty redirect. I will propose the remaining Greek sub-cats for speedy renaming if this nom is agreed. – Fayenatic L ondon 20:21, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Greece-related deletion discussions. – Fayenatic L ondon 20:56, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. – Fayenatic L ondon 21:10, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
- Support as shorter title is quite adequate Hugo999 ( talk) 12:32, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
- Rename to shorter name. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 21:00, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. Its only article is already in the parent categories.--
Mike Selinker (
talk)
23:11, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Lists of hospitals in Thailand to Category:Hospitals in Thailand
- Nominator's rationale: They are the same. Jennes83 ( talk) 13:35, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Jennes83 ( talk • contribs) 13:30, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
- Merge per WP:SMALLCAT. The category contains only its head article List of hospitals in Thailand, and I see no need for other lists. The parent Category:Lists of hospitals by country has few other by-country categories, so this is not really part of a series. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 14:23, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
- Triple merge also to both parents, Category:Thailand-related lists and Category:Lists of hospitals by country. – Fayenatic L ondon 14:28, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
- Triple upmerge per Fayentic london. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 21:01, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: rename. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 02:41, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Sex roles to Category:Sexual roles
- Nominator's rationale: Rename to 'Sexual roles'. This category should be renamed because the term " sex roles" is usually used to refer to gender roles and the link for "sex roles" redirects there. Most literature uses the term to refer to biological sex, not sexual activity. Changing the category to "sexual roles" would also match its parent category, Category:Sexual roleplay. Vis-a-visconti ( talk) 07:43, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
- Rename new name is much clearer. MaybeMaybeMaybe ( talk) 21:40, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
- Rename to match parent cat.-- Lenticel ( talk) 05:57, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: keep and split out album covers.--
Mike Selinker (
talk)
23:14, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Images of Free (band) to Category:Free (band) album covers
- Nominator's rationale: That's what it is — Justin (koavf)❤ T☮ C☺ M☯ 07:39, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
- Keep and split to sub-cat, because it also contains fair-use image File:Paul Rodgers of the band Free performs in front of the crowd at the 1970 Isle of Wight Festival, screenshot from Message To Love.JPG.
- Question: am I right to think that album covers should be a sub-cat of band-related images? I think I saw a similar parent category being removed recently. – Fayenatic L ondon 14:26, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
- Response But they aren't images of that band, just images somehow associated with them. Think of how many images are related to The Beatles. — Justin (koavf)❤ T☮ C☺ M☯ 17:03, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: delete.-- Mike Selinker ( talk) 23:12, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Per precedent of other "[X] side projects" categories. — Justin (koavf)❤ T☮ C☺ M☯ 07:11, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
- Question. Any links to those precedents? -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 14:24, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
- Response Generic search. Specific examples: 1, 2, 3 (note that the latter also links to three more.) — Justin (koavf)❤ T☮ C☺ M☯ 17:13, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 21:02, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: no consensus. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 15:45, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Qarpa albums to Category:Faktychno Sami albums
- Nominator's rationale: Qarpa is a redirect — Justin (koavf)❤ T☮ C☺ M☯ 05:51, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
- Keep This is a somewhat unusual situation. The band Qarpa was formerly known as Faktychno Sami. It released albums under the latter name up to 2007 while the last two albums were released under the name Qarpa. It is natural to assume that readers will search for Category:Qarpa albums. At the very least, we need a category redirect but I prefer the current situation where we have both categories and hatnotes that explain the connection between the two. Pichpich ( talk) 08:25, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
- Merge and redirect. I also suggest we put this on hold and initiate a WP:RM discussion about moving the page to the more recent name Qarpa; even though the Ukrainian page is also at the old name, there are more ghits for the new name. – Fayenatic L ondon 14:19, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
- Reverse merge since we categorize things under their most recent name. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 18:38, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: rename. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 02:38, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Deftones images to Category:Deftones album covers
- Nominator's rationale: Per Category:album covers by recording artist — Justin (koavf)❤ T☮ C☺ M☯ 01:37, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
- Rename. All photos of the band used in the article are on Commons, so an album covers category is all that is needed here. – Fayenatic L ondon 14:23, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: rename. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 02:46, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: The members of this category are not episodes of Mystery Science Theater 3000, but actual films in their own right and the name should reflect this as it does in Category:Short films featured in Mystery Science Theater 3000 episodes. Personally I would rather delete this category altogether per (NON)DEFINING and WP:OC#TRIVIAL or even perhaps WP:OC#TOPTEN, because I doubt that being featured in a MST3000 episode is a defining characteristic for all 200 films categorized here, and instead refer readers to List of Mystery Science Theater 3000 episodes, but a previous discussion was closed as keep/rename with the rationale "Consensus here felt that this characteristic is defining for its content, and this rename appears to be the most suitable option", so I guess deletion is out of the question. jonkerz ♠talk 23:59, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
- Rename. Well done, Jonkerz, for anticipating the obvious objections in advance, some of which I would otherwise have raised. As there was a strong consensus before to keep/rename rather than listify & delete, then yes let's have a more accurate & informative name. As these films were not well-known before or apart from M3K, having this category will not result in category clutter on the article pages. – Fayenatic L ondon 13:52, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
- Rename per nom.-- Lenticel ( talk) 05:56, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
- Delete this is not a defining character of the films that are being categorized. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 20:59, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: rename all. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 02:42, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Ancient Greek archaeological sites in Greece to Category:Ancient Greek sites in Greece
- Propose merging Category:Roman archaeological sites in Greece to Category:Roman sites in Greece
- Propose renaming Category:Prehistoric archaeological sites in Europe to Category:Prehistoric sites in Europe
- Propose renaming Category:Bronze Age archaeological sites in Europe to Category:Bronze Age sites in Europe
- Propose renaming Category:Bronze Age archaeological sites in Greece to Category:Bronze Age sites in Greece
- Propose renaming Category:Iron Age archaeological sites in Europe to Category:Iron Age sites in Europe
- Propose renaming Category:Iron Age archaeological sites in Greece to Category:Iron Age sites in Greece
- Propose renaming Category:Stone Age archaeological sites in Europe to Category:Stone Age sites in Europe
- Propose renaming Category:Neolithic archaeological sites in Greece to Category:Neolithic sites in Greece
- Nominator's rationale: Within the hierarchy of category:Archaeological sites, the top categories for countries include the word "archaeological", whereas the top categories by period do not. Most of the intersection categories keep it short by just using "Foo sites in Bar", including those for Ancient Greek and Roman sites. Within the categories for the country Greece (see Category:Archaeological sites in Greece by period), most include the long word.
- Please, let's merge the first two one way or the other, as we don't need both. Note: There was a previous Cfd on 16 Sept just for the first nominated category merger, which was closed as No consensus. I have tidied up some of the contents since then. There was a similar CfD on the Roman one in 2009 with the same result. Neither attracted much comment, so this time I have notified WT:WikiProject Classical Greece and Rome, and widened the nomination, as suggested by the two closers.
- As for the Europe categories, look above/below/within and you will see that most others that are intersections with a location omit the word "archaeological".
- The last one is for renaming rather than merging because the target is an empty redirect. I will propose the remaining Greek sub-cats for speedy renaming if this nom is agreed. – Fayenatic L ondon 20:21, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Greece-related deletion discussions. – Fayenatic L ondon 20:56, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. – Fayenatic L ondon 21:10, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
- Support as shorter title is quite adequate Hugo999 ( talk) 12:32, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
- Rename to shorter name. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 21:00, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. Its only article is already in the parent categories.--
Mike Selinker (
talk)
23:11, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Lists of hospitals in Thailand to Category:Hospitals in Thailand
- Nominator's rationale: They are the same. Jennes83 ( talk) 13:35, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Jennes83 ( talk • contribs) 13:30, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
- Merge per WP:SMALLCAT. The category contains only its head article List of hospitals in Thailand, and I see no need for other lists. The parent Category:Lists of hospitals by country has few other by-country categories, so this is not really part of a series. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 14:23, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
- Triple merge also to both parents, Category:Thailand-related lists and Category:Lists of hospitals by country. – Fayenatic L ondon 14:28, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
- Triple upmerge per Fayentic london. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 21:01, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: rename. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 02:41, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Sex roles to Category:Sexual roles
- Nominator's rationale: Rename to 'Sexual roles'. This category should be renamed because the term " sex roles" is usually used to refer to gender roles and the link for "sex roles" redirects there. Most literature uses the term to refer to biological sex, not sexual activity. Changing the category to "sexual roles" would also match its parent category, Category:Sexual roleplay. Vis-a-visconti ( talk) 07:43, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
- Rename new name is much clearer. MaybeMaybeMaybe ( talk) 21:40, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
- Rename to match parent cat.-- Lenticel ( talk) 05:57, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: keep and split out album covers.--
Mike Selinker (
talk)
23:14, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Images of Free (band) to Category:Free (band) album covers
- Nominator's rationale: That's what it is — Justin (koavf)❤ T☮ C☺ M☯ 07:39, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
- Keep and split to sub-cat, because it also contains fair-use image File:Paul Rodgers of the band Free performs in front of the crowd at the 1970 Isle of Wight Festival, screenshot from Message To Love.JPG.
- Question: am I right to think that album covers should be a sub-cat of band-related images? I think I saw a similar parent category being removed recently. – Fayenatic L ondon 14:26, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
- Response But they aren't images of that band, just images somehow associated with them. Think of how many images are related to The Beatles. — Justin (koavf)❤ T☮ C☺ M☯ 17:03, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: delete.-- Mike Selinker ( talk) 23:12, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Per precedent of other "[X] side projects" categories. — Justin (koavf)❤ T☮ C☺ M☯ 07:11, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
- Question. Any links to those precedents? -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 14:24, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
- Response Generic search. Specific examples: 1, 2, 3 (note that the latter also links to three more.) — Justin (koavf)❤ T☮ C☺ M☯ 17:13, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 21:02, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: no consensus. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 15:45, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Qarpa albums to Category:Faktychno Sami albums
- Nominator's rationale: Qarpa is a redirect — Justin (koavf)❤ T☮ C☺ M☯ 05:51, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
- Keep This is a somewhat unusual situation. The band Qarpa was formerly known as Faktychno Sami. It released albums under the latter name up to 2007 while the last two albums were released under the name Qarpa. It is natural to assume that readers will search for Category:Qarpa albums. At the very least, we need a category redirect but I prefer the current situation where we have both categories and hatnotes that explain the connection between the two. Pichpich ( talk) 08:25, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
- Merge and redirect. I also suggest we put this on hold and initiate a WP:RM discussion about moving the page to the more recent name Qarpa; even though the Ukrainian page is also at the old name, there are more ghits for the new name. – Fayenatic L ondon 14:19, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
- Reverse merge since we categorize things under their most recent name. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 18:38, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: rename. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 02:38, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Deftones images to Category:Deftones album covers
- Nominator's rationale: Per Category:album covers by recording artist — Justin (koavf)❤ T☮ C☺ M☯ 01:37, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
- Rename. All photos of the band used in the article are on Commons, so an album covers category is all that is needed here. – Fayenatic L ondon 14:23, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
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