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Category:Slovak Superliga
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That is indeed problematic but I'm not sure there's a better option than just ignoring (to a certain extent) the 1997-2011 interlude. If we split the category into for instance
Category:Slovak First League players into
Category:Slovak First League players (2012 - ),
Category:Slovak Superliga players (1997-2011) and
Category:Slovak First League players (prior to 1997) we'll end up with a lot of category clutter and although we might claim that we're technically unambiguous I doubt that we'll clear up much of the confusion for our readers. I think it's a better idea to go through with the renaming proposed above and to clearly explain the 1997-2011 interlude in the paragraph of introduction to the category. At least for now we're also helped by the fact that there are no existing categories for the lower levels of the Slovak football leagues system.
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Category:Police museums in Alberta
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Delete Umm, yeah. I am struggling to actually find a single "police museum" in Alberta. Certainly there are active historical sites that were once NWMP forts, and there are memorials. And in the case of the Ukranian village, there might be a replica police building as part of the park, but a specific museum? Can't think of any.
Resolute17:20, 30 January 2012 (UTC)reply
Delete -- It looks as if
Ukrainian Cultural Heritage Village is not about a village in the ordinary sense, but a museum containing relocated buildings. One these is the Andrew Police post. I presume that this contains a police museum. As a preserved buidling, this is potentially notable, but whehter I am doubtful that we need an article on it, rather than a paragraph in the wider one of the Village. What should be its article is a redirect to an article on the Alberta police. The potential parent, "Police Museums in Canada" is a red-link. The ultimate parent "police museums" also does not exist, though there certainly are others: I visited one in Birmingham some years ago. Until there is a much better developed tree, we do not need this category.
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Category:IBM Mainframe computer operating systems
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Split by OS, eliminate mainframe subcat There's no overall mainframe OS category, and what's in this category is a mishmash of main articles about some (but not all) of IBM's operating systems, but also a bunch of articles about utilities and other not-really-OS articles. It would make more sense to reorganize all these articles according to the specific OS(s) involved, removing the utilities and other non-OS topics entirely (there are lots of those too).
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I guess the question here is what was the common name for these? Also in looking at the category, it needs a good cleanup since it includes components of various operating systems that probably should be not articles in this category, but maybe in some type of subcategory. So at this point I think I Oppose. If we want to rename, then
Category:IBM operating systems (mainframe) seems to be a better choice since we are disambiguating a class of operating systems. I don't recall them being called mainframe operating systems. This would seem like a better naming convention to use for splitting
Category:IBM operating systems. One additional split that seems to make sense from the nav template would be
Category:IBM operating systems (server).
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Category:Military memorials and cemeteries
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Much better to split -- some memorials are in cemtetries; some are not. Most English villages and towns have at least one war memorial to the dead of WWI, with the dead of WWII and later wars added. These are usually in a prominent public location, not in a cemetery, and certainly not a military cemetery. British proactice until recently was to bury the war dead on or near the battlefield where they fell, so that there are relatively few military cemeteries in UK.
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Category:Kristol family
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Delete per nominator. There is no reasonable prospect of the category being expanded, and the articles are adequately interlinked. This a family with some notable members, but there is no evidence that the concept of a "Kristol family" is notable. --
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Category:Frels family
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Reply. It is not the function of CFD to reach a view on whether articles should or should not exist; that sort of discussion belongs at
WP:AFD. The question for CFD is how to categorise those articles which do exist. --
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You're right. The category should still be deleted though: it's small, it has no obvious room for expansion and the two articles are already interlinked.
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Category:Machemehl family
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Listify at
Machemehl. We do not even have a list article on people with this surname yet. This is a much more useful navigation aid than a category. I use such lists to find the bio-article on a person, whose article might be at any one of several locations.
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Category:Slovak Superliga
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That is indeed problematic but I'm not sure there's a better option than just ignoring (to a certain extent) the 1997-2011 interlude. If we split the category into for instance
Category:Slovak First League players into
Category:Slovak First League players (2012 - ),
Category:Slovak Superliga players (1997-2011) and
Category:Slovak First League players (prior to 1997) we'll end up with a lot of category clutter and although we might claim that we're technically unambiguous I doubt that we'll clear up much of the confusion for our readers. I think it's a better idea to go through with the renaming proposed above and to clearly explain the 1997-2011 interlude in the paragraph of introduction to the category. At least for now we're also helped by the fact that there are no existing categories for the lower levels of the Slovak football leagues system.
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Category:Police museums in Alberta
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Delete Umm, yeah. I am struggling to actually find a single "police museum" in Alberta. Certainly there are active historical sites that were once NWMP forts, and there are memorials. And in the case of the Ukranian village, there might be a replica police building as part of the park, but a specific museum? Can't think of any.
Resolute17:20, 30 January 2012 (UTC)reply
Delete -- It looks as if
Ukrainian Cultural Heritage Village is not about a village in the ordinary sense, but a museum containing relocated buildings. One these is the Andrew Police post. I presume that this contains a police museum. As a preserved buidling, this is potentially notable, but whehter I am doubtful that we need an article on it, rather than a paragraph in the wider one of the Village. What should be its article is a redirect to an article on the Alberta police. The potential parent, "Police Museums in Canada" is a red-link. The ultimate parent "police museums" also does not exist, though there certainly are others: I visited one in Birmingham some years ago. Until there is a much better developed tree, we do not need this category.
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Category:IBM Mainframe computer operating systems
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Split by OS, eliminate mainframe subcat There's no overall mainframe OS category, and what's in this category is a mishmash of main articles about some (but not all) of IBM's operating systems, but also a bunch of articles about utilities and other not-really-OS articles. It would make more sense to reorganize all these articles according to the specific OS(s) involved, removing the utilities and other non-OS topics entirely (there are lots of those too).
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19:39, 29 January 2012 (UTC)reply
I guess the question here is what was the common name for these? Also in looking at the category, it needs a good cleanup since it includes components of various operating systems that probably should be not articles in this category, but maybe in some type of subcategory. So at this point I think I Oppose. If we want to rename, then
Category:IBM operating systems (mainframe) seems to be a better choice since we are disambiguating a class of operating systems. I don't recall them being called mainframe operating systems. This would seem like a better naming convention to use for splitting
Category:IBM operating systems. One additional split that seems to make sense from the nav template would be
Category:IBM operating systems (server).
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00:56, 5 February 2012 (UTC)reply
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Category:Military memorials and cemeteries
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Much better to split -- some memorials are in cemtetries; some are not. Most English villages and towns have at least one war memorial to the dead of WWI, with the dead of WWII and later wars added. These are usually in a prominent public location, not in a cemetery, and certainly not a military cemetery. British proactice until recently was to bury the war dead on or near the battlefield where they fell, so that there are relatively few military cemeteries in UK.
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Category:Kristol family
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Delete per nominator. There is no reasonable prospect of the category being expanded, and the articles are adequately interlinked. This a family with some notable members, but there is no evidence that the concept of a "Kristol family" is notable. --
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Category:Frels family
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Reply. It is not the function of CFD to reach a view on whether articles should or should not exist; that sort of discussion belongs at
WP:AFD. The question for CFD is how to categorise those articles which do exist. --
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12:37, 30 January 2012 (UTC)reply
You're right. The category should still be deleted though: it's small, it has no obvious room for expansion and the two articles are already interlinked.
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Category:Machemehl family
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Listify at
Machemehl. We do not even have a list article on people with this surname yet. This is a much more useful navigation aid than a category. I use such lists to find the bio-article on a person, whose article might be at any one of several locations.
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