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That notwithstanding, the limitation by that definition seems to exclude a lot of accidents that happen and that should go into such a category. What about suicides by jumping off bridges? Those could also be considered "falls". __
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Rename to
Category:Accidental falling from bridges -- This would fit all five, while excluding suicides (as non-accidental). We currently have 5 articles: one involves a lift bridge; two swing bridges; one a derailment on a high bridge, from which people fell; and finally a tug boat hitting a pier, causing two cars to fall off.
Hmains's suggestion only fits 3 of these. The nom strictly only fits the first.
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What a mess -
Category:Bridge disasters involving open moveable bridges seems to be the closest thing to dealing with all the concerns above, but with how varied the grouping is, I do think after reading the above that listification would probably be the best route. Allowing to explain each of the events clearly, something not possible in categories. - jc3708:30, 26 August 2012 (UTC)reply
Note there are 4 articles about disasters, and then one on a railway station that is connected with the disaster. This fact may show that this would be better as a list since often the disaster will not merit its own article.
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Support/subcategorize since washouts happen on transport corridors that are not bridges. Indeed, most washouts have nothing to do with bridges. Supercategorize with the current category name and move
washout to it. There should be articles on washouts that are not bridge disasters around, since there have been several severe ones. --
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05:25, 3 August 2012 (UTC)reply
Rename but not as nom. Unfortunately,
Bridge failure is a redirect to a short sction in
Bridge.
Bridge scour is said to be one of three causes of bridge failure, but what the others are is uncelar. I am not convinced that everything in the present category is actually about scouring. Another reason for a bridge to fail in a flood is the build up of debris against it, so that the bridge dams up water behind it. How about
Category:Bridge disasters caused by flood? If adopted, a purge may be need of failures due to scour unrelated to floods.
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Nominator's rationale:Rename. Of the 25 entries in this category 23 are groups playing this music genre. The remaining two are an album and an individual musician. __
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Oppose events don't all have venues, they all have one or more locations. And if you consider "place" too broad a term to use, then what of "event" ? Exactly how does the bombing of Dresden (an event) have a venue? Or the sinking of the Titanic (another event) ; I am aware these two examples are not currently categorized in this category tree. --
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Nominator's rationale:Rename. This is a musical genre. All articles, bar the eponymous main article are bands which play this genre. __
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Oh, me too. But I think we can't go too wrong modeling the name after main article, and following our general guidelines when it comes to unnecessary use of parentheses in titles. In fact, I see it matches criterion C2D at
WP:CFDS and I think it could even be speedily renamed per my suggestion, therefore.
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Rename I tend to prefer the latter name but I suspect there's some reasons for the odd name of the lsit which we'll hear about shortly.
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Rename or delete. Renaming rationale makes sense. I think, however, this category can safely be deleted. There are no articles in it, and grouping the sub-categories this way seems redundant. ~
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Nominator's rationale: These are one- or two-person categories for mayors of comparitively small cities; they are unlikely to be expanded much as mayors of cities of the size and importance of these rarely pass the notability threshold. The proposed target of the Altamonte Springs category does have reasonable chance of expansion due to the size of the town.
The BushrangerOne ping only02:27, 2 August 2012 (UTC)reply
Comment I created a People from Altamonte Springs category. It currently has six people in it. The population of AS is over 40,000 and as The Bushranger wrote above, it does have a reasonable chance of being expanded in the future.
...William16:25, 7 August 2012 (UTC)reply
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Nominator's rationale: While this category initially may have been intended for images of music, it's currently being used for audio files as much as image files. We should rename the category to better reflect its contents. -
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That notwithstanding, the limitation by that definition seems to exclude a lot of accidents that happen and that should go into such a category. What about suicides by jumping off bridges? Those could also be considered "falls". __
meco (
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08:10, 4 August 2012 (UTC)reply
Rename to
Category:Accidental falling from bridges -- This would fit all five, while excluding suicides (as non-accidental). We currently have 5 articles: one involves a lift bridge; two swing bridges; one a derailment on a high bridge, from which people fell; and finally a tug boat hitting a pier, causing two cars to fall off.
Hmains's suggestion only fits 3 of these. The nom strictly only fits the first.
Peterkingiron (
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14:53, 5 August 2012 (UTC)reply
What a mess -
Category:Bridge disasters involving open moveable bridges seems to be the closest thing to dealing with all the concerns above, but with how varied the grouping is, I do think after reading the above that listification would probably be the best route. Allowing to explain each of the events clearly, something not possible in categories. - jc3708:30, 26 August 2012 (UTC)reply
Note there are 4 articles about disasters, and then one on a railway station that is connected with the disaster. This fact may show that this would be better as a list since often the disaster will not merit its own article.
John Pack Lambert (
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17:49, 27 August 2012 (UTC)reply
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Support/subcategorize since washouts happen on transport corridors that are not bridges. Indeed, most washouts have nothing to do with bridges. Supercategorize with the current category name and move
washout to it. There should be articles on washouts that are not bridge disasters around, since there have been several severe ones. --
76.65.131.160 (
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05:25, 3 August 2012 (UTC)reply
Rename but not as nom. Unfortunately,
Bridge failure is a redirect to a short sction in
Bridge.
Bridge scour is said to be one of three causes of bridge failure, but what the others are is uncelar. I am not convinced that everything in the present category is actually about scouring. Another reason for a bridge to fail in a flood is the build up of debris against it, so that the bridge dams up water behind it. How about
Category:Bridge disasters caused by flood? If adopted, a purge may be need of failures due to scour unrelated to floods.
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Nominator's rationale:Rename. Of the 25 entries in this category 23 are groups playing this music genre. The remaining two are an album and an individual musician. __
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Oppose events don't all have venues, they all have one or more locations. And if you consider "place" too broad a term to use, then what of "event" ? Exactly how does the bombing of Dresden (an event) have a venue? Or the sinking of the Titanic (another event) ; I am aware these two examples are not currently categorized in this category tree. --
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Nominator's rationale:Rename. This is a musical genre. All articles, bar the eponymous main article are bands which play this genre. __
meco (
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12:32, 2 August 2012 (UTC)reply
Oh, me too. But I think we can't go too wrong modeling the name after main article, and following our general guidelines when it comes to unnecessary use of parentheses in titles. In fact, I see it matches criterion C2D at
WP:CFDS and I think it could even be speedily renamed per my suggestion, therefore.
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19:35, 2 August 2012 (UTC)reply
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Rename I tend to prefer the latter name but I suspect there's some reasons for the odd name of the lsit which we'll hear about shortly.
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Rename or delete. Renaming rationale makes sense. I think, however, this category can safely be deleted. There are no articles in it, and grouping the sub-categories this way seems redundant. ~
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The BushrangerOne ping only02:27, 2 August 2012 (UTC)reply
Comment I created a People from Altamonte Springs category. It currently has six people in it. The population of AS is over 40,000 and as The Bushranger wrote above, it does have a reasonable chance of being expanded in the future.
...William16:25, 7 August 2012 (UTC)reply
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