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Nominator's rationale:Convert to list article. I suggest converting this category into a list. I propose this because this has been the consensus of what to do with similar categories for other composers: see
here,
here, and
here. The list article should then be placed in
Category:Lists of music students by teacher.
Good Ol’factory(talk) 22:43, 22 March 2011 (UTC)reply
Such a list (an article you suggest) is to be created; it is now in my sub-pages as a
rough draft. I did not know the consensus, but in my opinion the category is nevertheless quite useful for those interested in the matter. Regards,
Gregory of Nyssa (
talk) 23:37, 22 March 2011 (UTC)reply
'Make the list; keep the category also. Whenever there is a list, there should normally be a category and v-v unless there is some really special reason, and I do not see one here. DGG (
talk ) 05:50, 23 March 2011 (UTC)reply
Listify – being someone's pupil is not defining: this is the objection to such categories.
Occuli (
talk) 09:36, 23 March 2011 (UTC)reply
Listify - agree that it is good information, but not suitable for a category.
Roscelese (
talk ⋅
contribs) 18:18, 23 March 2011 (UTC)reply
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Category:People from Sligo
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Nominator's rationale:Rename to disambiguate People from the Irish town of
Sligo (to which this category refers) to People from the surrounding
County Sligo, which has its own parent category,
Category:People from County Sligo. The town is the
primary topic for the unqualified term "Sligo", but the county is sometimes referred to simply as "Sligo" rather than "County Sligo", creating an ambiguity which leads to errors in categorisation. Similar disambiguators have been added to the categories for cities in Ireland which have eponymous counties.
Snappy (
talk) 21:07, 22 March 2011 (UTC)reply
Rename per nom. "Sligo" is used so much as a shorthand for "County Sligo" that a disambiguating word in the category name would be good.
Roscelese (
talk ⋅
contribs) 18:19, 23 March 2011 (UTC)reply
Rename per nom and per Roscelese, and per numerous similar recent renamings of categories for to county towns in Ireland. --
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The adjective "American" in American Civil War categories
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American is an all encompassing term. Union members were American. Confederates were American. If you going to say how many people died all together during the war then the term American would suffice. If you were going to give separate totals American wouldn't suffice. The terms Union and confederate would be required.It is known as the American Civil War to many. I find it doubtful that anyone thinks that American stands for union in this context and I wouldn't say that American and union would be interchangeable in this context (ie Union Civil War).
Serialjoepsycho (
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Have you considered to simply Remove American. It seems to me that Removing American would be correct.
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Category:Songs about transport
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Nominator's rationale:Delete. A very unhelpful and subjective way to classify a song. I also nominate its seven sub-categories for deletion—do I need to tag those pages as well? (Fun fact: I found this after "
This Charming Man" was categorised as
a song about a bicycle)—
indopug (
talk) 16:06, 22 March 2011 (UTC)reply
Keep all These categories are quite notable, being used in numerous collections and books.
Colonel Warden (
talk) 10:32, 26 March 2011 (UTC)reply
Reluctant keep for now. The "songs about" categories are a logical mess, because most of them confuse the setting of a song with its theme, and avoid its meaning (tho I accept that the meaning may be subjective). For example
Category:Songs about trains includes The Gambler, which is set on a train; but it's not about trains, and it's arguably not even about gambling. Similarly, putting Bridge over Troubled Water and Love Can Build a Bridge in
Category:Songs about bridges is a form of crass literalism which insults the reader. However, I don't see that the transport end of this mess is any more daft than the rest of it, and it should not be singled out. The whole lot should be considered together. --
BrownHairedGirl(talk) • (
contribs) 15:30, 26 March 2011 (UTC)reply
Keep. I created some of the subcategories after the main category was nominated in
this recent nomination. The concept survived that nomination, and probably should go a bit longer before being addressed again. However, songs that are not about the thing in question can and should be removed from the category.--
Mike Selinker (
talk) 16:41, 29 March 2011 (UTC)reply
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Category:Academy Award for Best Original Screenplay templates
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Support: It looks like there's some redundancy between the templates as well: we have Original Screenplay templates for
1960-1969, for
1970-1979 AND for
1961-1980. Clearly there's no reason to have competing templates.
Aristophanes68 (
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Category:Train stations in Val-d'Oise
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The result of the discussion was:Speedy (er ish) rename.
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Category:Train stations in the San Francisco Bay Area
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Category:United States military personnel of the American Revolution
Weak oppose rename. Ah, the eternal
USian problem. "American military personnel of the American Revolution" is, by itself, somewhat ambiguous. Does it include Loyalists? Native Americans? Not entirely clear from the name alone, although of course a description on the category page will resolve the ambiguity. "United States military personnel of the American Revolution" is precisely descriptive of the category's contents. If we want consistency, then it's really better to go the other way, using "United States" in the category tree and avoiding the ambiguous "American", as an editor in the previous discussion suggested. But it's a minor point and not really important to me, thus the "weak" oppose. —
KevinMyers 15:07, 22 March 2011 (UTC)reply
Oppose Current category name is precise, whereas the proposed new name is ambiguous. --
BrownHairedGirl(talk) • (
contribs) 17:27, 24 March 2011 (UTC)reply
Category:2011 Libyan War
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The result of the discussion was:merge to
Category:2011 Libyan civil war. This may be a temporary move, since the article (now named
2011 Libyan civil war) is under a requested move debate again. But at the very least, these articles should all be one category, whatever its name.--
Mike Selinker (
talk) 16:52, 31 March 2011 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale:Merge. There is no reason for a new category, the contents of the new category don't even contain most of the civil war articles. The shift between uprising and war occurred much earlier than the UN intervention, the current division is original research.
184.144.166.85 (
talk) 01:58, 22 March 2011 (UTC)reply
Oppose merging: An uprising is not a war ... In this case, the war involves specific techniques, an international coalition, UN-resolutions, ... Moreover, the goals of the uprising are completely different from what the people involved in the war intend to achieve.
Stefanomione (
talk) 08:08, 22 March 2011 (UTC)reply
The uprising was most certainly a Civil War.
65.93.12.101 (
talk) 11:35, 22 March 2011 (UTC)reply
Rename to make it clear that this does not refer to the internal civil war (the related article is
2011 military intervention in Libya ... perhaps UN should be added to this).
Occuli (
talk) 10:59, 22 March 2011 (UTC)reply
Reverse merge, the uprising became a civil war, with pitched battles. The uprising articles should all be dumped into this category.
65.93.12.101 (
talk) 11:35, 22 March 2011 (UTC)reply
Oppose reverse merge to category not using the main article title The article currently at
2011 Libyan uprising has been through a number of RMs in response to developing events and the final title it not yet clear. The
previous CFD on these categories settled on following the article RMs and not going their own way. If the categories are to be merged they should use the main article title and discussion on what that should be should be kept to its talkpage.
Timrollpickering (
talk) 19:53, 23 March 2011 (UTC)reply
Rename There are many (well, several) articles related to the 2011 Libyan situation at present, the most common term seems to remain uprising. For the time being therefore, all the related articles, categories etc. should be left as or changed to uprising until such time as a consensus is reached to change all to war, civil war, revolt, revolution, or whetever other term may be most appropriate.
Lynbarn (
talk) 11:40, 24 March 2011 (UTC)reply
Rename The lead article on the subject is still named
2011 Libyan uprising. There is a rename discussion currently under way but it has not yet come to conclusion. It would seem premature to rename the category when the article and topic banner are still employing
2011 Libyan uprising.--
Labattblueboy (
talk) 20:41, 24 March 2011 (UTC)reply
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Category:People of the 2011 Libyan War
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The result of the discussion was:merge to
Category:People of the 2011 Libyan civil war. This may be a temporary move, since the article (now named
2011 Libyan civil war) is under a requested move debate again. But at the very least, these articles should all be one category, whatever its name.--
Mike Selinker (
talk) 16:52, 31 March 2011 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale:Merge. The division between uprising and civil war does not allow for a separation of people, as most would be in both categories.
184.144.166.85 (
talk) 02:01, 22 March 2011 (UTC)reply
Reverse merge, the uprising became a civil war, with pitched battles. The uprising articles should all be dumped into this category.
65.93.12.101 (
talk) 11:35, 22 March 2011 (UTC)reply
(The same issue & response as in the CFD above but for ease of reading I'll repeat them here) Oppose reverse merge to category not using the main article title The article currently at
2011 Libyan uprising has been through a number of RMs in response to developing events and the final title it not yet clear. The
previous CFD on these categories settled on following the article RMs and not going their own way. If the categories are to be merged they should use the main article title and discussion on what that should be should be kept to its talkpage.
Timrollpickering (
talk) 19:54, 23 March 2011 (UTC)reply
What precisely is a "pitched battle"? Do the combatants use pitch and/or tar? Does it mean that it is ferocious? Is baseball involved? I would probably support '2011 Libyan conflict' as a catch-all term, but to call it civil war when there are outside agencies and nations at work with much more force than the national army or rebels, just seems to be stretching credibility. --
Avanu (
talk) 19:49, 27 March 2011 (UTC)reply
Outside agencies are frequently involved in civil wars. Before the major intervention of outside agencies, it was already a civil war, with credible news agencies calling it that as well (ie, before the no-fly zone was established). "2011 Libyan confict" is fine though; but do you wish separate categories or one category? And if you wish to rename this category, then you have a "conflict" category and "uprising" category, so that would also be problematic.
65.93.12.101 (
talk) 07:13, 28 March 2011 (UTC)reply
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Nominator's rationale:Convert to list article. I suggest converting this category into a list. I propose this because this has been the consensus of what to do with similar categories for other composers: see
here,
here, and
here. The list article should then be placed in
Category:Lists of music students by teacher.
Good Ol’factory(talk) 22:43, 22 March 2011 (UTC)reply
Such a list (an article you suggest) is to be created; it is now in my sub-pages as a
rough draft. I did not know the consensus, but in my opinion the category is nevertheless quite useful for those interested in the matter. Regards,
Gregory of Nyssa (
talk) 23:37, 22 March 2011 (UTC)reply
'Make the list; keep the category also. Whenever there is a list, there should normally be a category and v-v unless there is some really special reason, and I do not see one here. DGG (
talk ) 05:50, 23 March 2011 (UTC)reply
Listify – being someone's pupil is not defining: this is the objection to such categories.
Occuli (
talk) 09:36, 23 March 2011 (UTC)reply
Listify - agree that it is good information, but not suitable for a category.
Roscelese (
talk ⋅
contribs) 18:18, 23 March 2011 (UTC)reply
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Category:People from Sligo
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Nominator's rationale:Rename to disambiguate People from the Irish town of
Sligo (to which this category refers) to People from the surrounding
County Sligo, which has its own parent category,
Category:People from County Sligo. The town is the
primary topic for the unqualified term "Sligo", but the county is sometimes referred to simply as "Sligo" rather than "County Sligo", creating an ambiguity which leads to errors in categorisation. Similar disambiguators have been added to the categories for cities in Ireland which have eponymous counties.
Snappy (
talk) 21:07, 22 March 2011 (UTC)reply
Rename per nom. "Sligo" is used so much as a shorthand for "County Sligo" that a disambiguating word in the category name would be good.
Roscelese (
talk ⋅
contribs) 18:19, 23 March 2011 (UTC)reply
Rename per nom and per Roscelese, and per numerous similar recent renamings of categories for to county towns in Ireland. --
BrownHairedGirl(talk) • (
contribs) 14:27, 24 March 2011 (UTC)reply
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The adjective "American" in American Civil War categories
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American is an all encompassing term. Union members were American. Confederates were American. If you going to say how many people died all together during the war then the term American would suffice. If you were going to give separate totals American wouldn't suffice. The terms Union and confederate would be required.It is known as the American Civil War to many. I find it doubtful that anyone thinks that American stands for union in this context and I wouldn't say that American and union would be interchangeable in this context (ie Union Civil War).
Serialjoepsycho (
talk) 19:56, 31 March 2011 (UTC)reply
Have you considered to simply Remove American. It seems to me that Removing American would be correct.
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Category:Songs about transport
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Nominator's rationale:Delete. A very unhelpful and subjective way to classify a song. I also nominate its seven sub-categories for deletion—do I need to tag those pages as well? (Fun fact: I found this after "
This Charming Man" was categorised as
a song about a bicycle)—
indopug (
talk) 16:06, 22 March 2011 (UTC)reply
Keep all These categories are quite notable, being used in numerous collections and books.
Colonel Warden (
talk) 10:32, 26 March 2011 (UTC)reply
Reluctant keep for now. The "songs about" categories are a logical mess, because most of them confuse the setting of a song with its theme, and avoid its meaning (tho I accept that the meaning may be subjective). For example
Category:Songs about trains includes The Gambler, which is set on a train; but it's not about trains, and it's arguably not even about gambling. Similarly, putting Bridge over Troubled Water and Love Can Build a Bridge in
Category:Songs about bridges is a form of crass literalism which insults the reader. However, I don't see that the transport end of this mess is any more daft than the rest of it, and it should not be singled out. The whole lot should be considered together. --
BrownHairedGirl(talk) • (
contribs) 15:30, 26 March 2011 (UTC)reply
Keep. I created some of the subcategories after the main category was nominated in
this recent nomination. The concept survived that nomination, and probably should go a bit longer before being addressed again. However, songs that are not about the thing in question can and should be removed from the category.--
Mike Selinker (
talk) 16:41, 29 March 2011 (UTC)reply
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Category:Academy Award for Best Original Screenplay templates
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Support: It looks like there's some redundancy between the templates as well: we have Original Screenplay templates for
1960-1969, for
1970-1979 AND for
1961-1980. Clearly there's no reason to have competing templates.
Aristophanes68 (
talk) 18:38, 26 March 2011 (UTC)reply
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Category:Train stations in Val-d'Oise
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The result of the discussion was:Speedy (er ish) rename.
Timrollpickering (
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Category:Train stations in the San Francisco Bay Area
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Category:United States military personnel of the American Revolution
Weak oppose rename. Ah, the eternal
USian problem. "American military personnel of the American Revolution" is, by itself, somewhat ambiguous. Does it include Loyalists? Native Americans? Not entirely clear from the name alone, although of course a description on the category page will resolve the ambiguity. "United States military personnel of the American Revolution" is precisely descriptive of the category's contents. If we want consistency, then it's really better to go the other way, using "United States" in the category tree and avoiding the ambiguous "American", as an editor in the previous discussion suggested. But it's a minor point and not really important to me, thus the "weak" oppose. —
KevinMyers 15:07, 22 March 2011 (UTC)reply
Oppose Current category name is precise, whereas the proposed new name is ambiguous. --
BrownHairedGirl(talk) • (
contribs) 17:27, 24 March 2011 (UTC)reply
Category:2011 Libyan War
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The result of the discussion was:merge to
Category:2011 Libyan civil war. This may be a temporary move, since the article (now named
2011 Libyan civil war) is under a requested move debate again. But at the very least, these articles should all be one category, whatever its name.--
Mike Selinker (
talk) 16:52, 31 March 2011 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale:Merge. There is no reason for a new category, the contents of the new category don't even contain most of the civil war articles. The shift between uprising and war occurred much earlier than the UN intervention, the current division is original research.
184.144.166.85 (
talk) 01:58, 22 March 2011 (UTC)reply
Oppose merging: An uprising is not a war ... In this case, the war involves specific techniques, an international coalition, UN-resolutions, ... Moreover, the goals of the uprising are completely different from what the people involved in the war intend to achieve.
Stefanomione (
talk) 08:08, 22 March 2011 (UTC)reply
The uprising was most certainly a Civil War.
65.93.12.101 (
talk) 11:35, 22 March 2011 (UTC)reply
Rename to make it clear that this does not refer to the internal civil war (the related article is
2011 military intervention in Libya ... perhaps UN should be added to this).
Occuli (
talk) 10:59, 22 March 2011 (UTC)reply
Reverse merge, the uprising became a civil war, with pitched battles. The uprising articles should all be dumped into this category.
65.93.12.101 (
talk) 11:35, 22 March 2011 (UTC)reply
Oppose reverse merge to category not using the main article title The article currently at
2011 Libyan uprising has been through a number of RMs in response to developing events and the final title it not yet clear. The
previous CFD on these categories settled on following the article RMs and not going their own way. If the categories are to be merged they should use the main article title and discussion on what that should be should be kept to its talkpage.
Timrollpickering (
talk) 19:53, 23 March 2011 (UTC)reply
Rename There are many (well, several) articles related to the 2011 Libyan situation at present, the most common term seems to remain uprising. For the time being therefore, all the related articles, categories etc. should be left as or changed to uprising until such time as a consensus is reached to change all to war, civil war, revolt, revolution, or whetever other term may be most appropriate.
Lynbarn (
talk) 11:40, 24 March 2011 (UTC)reply
Rename The lead article on the subject is still named
2011 Libyan uprising. There is a rename discussion currently under way but it has not yet come to conclusion. It would seem premature to rename the category when the article and topic banner are still employing
2011 Libyan uprising.--
Labattblueboy (
talk) 20:41, 24 March 2011 (UTC)reply
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Category:People of the 2011 Libyan War
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The result of the discussion was:merge to
Category:People of the 2011 Libyan civil war. This may be a temporary move, since the article (now named
2011 Libyan civil war) is under a requested move debate again. But at the very least, these articles should all be one category, whatever its name.--
Mike Selinker (
talk) 16:52, 31 March 2011 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale:Merge. The division between uprising and civil war does not allow for a separation of people, as most would be in both categories.
184.144.166.85 (
talk) 02:01, 22 March 2011 (UTC)reply
Reverse merge, the uprising became a civil war, with pitched battles. The uprising articles should all be dumped into this category.
65.93.12.101 (
talk) 11:35, 22 March 2011 (UTC)reply
(The same issue & response as in the CFD above but for ease of reading I'll repeat them here) Oppose reverse merge to category not using the main article title The article currently at
2011 Libyan uprising has been through a number of RMs in response to developing events and the final title it not yet clear. The
previous CFD on these categories settled on following the article RMs and not going their own way. If the categories are to be merged they should use the main article title and discussion on what that should be should be kept to its talkpage.
Timrollpickering (
talk) 19:54, 23 March 2011 (UTC)reply
What precisely is a "pitched battle"? Do the combatants use pitch and/or tar? Does it mean that it is ferocious? Is baseball involved? I would probably support '2011 Libyan conflict' as a catch-all term, but to call it civil war when there are outside agencies and nations at work with much more force than the national army or rebels, just seems to be stretching credibility. --
Avanu (
talk) 19:49, 27 March 2011 (UTC)reply
Outside agencies are frequently involved in civil wars. Before the major intervention of outside agencies, it was already a civil war, with credible news agencies calling it that as well (ie, before the no-fly zone was established). "2011 Libyan confict" is fine though; but do you wish separate categories or one category? And if you wish to rename this category, then you have a "conflict" category and "uprising" category, so that would also be problematic.
65.93.12.101 (
talk) 07:13, 28 March 2011 (UTC)reply
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