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Nominator's rationale:Merge. Currently a single entry category where the proposed target is the only valid parent category. The others are redlinked. I'm not convinced that we currently need this category.
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20:40, 19 May 2010 (UTC)reply
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Category:20th-century women writers
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Nominator's rationale:Merge. I think this is another of the by century categories that can be deleted with the contents being moved to other categories. I think that we may be better served in the long run if we don't upmerge to
Category:20th-century women, but I have included that as a recommended target.
Vegaswikian (
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20:25, 19 May 2010 (UTC)reply
See other discussions
1,
2,
3,
4. While not the same, they are in my opinion similar enough. Being part of a series was not an impediment for deletion or upmerging.
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22:31, 19 May 2010 (UTC)reply
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Category:Latin writers
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What is the point of this name change? Is there any evidence that anybody has actually misunderstood the meaning of these categories? What exactly *is* the 'lack of clarity' that is being targeted by this renaming?
RandomCritic (
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21:20, 19 May 2010 (UTC)reply
Writers about Latin (history, culture, language); writers who are Latin (Latin American, Latin European, Roman) or writers who write whatever in Latin. That the writers are the third type is my first guess, but it is a guess
Mayumashu (
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23:24, 19 May 2010 (UTC)reply
"Latin" by itself doesn't have any of those meanings; it refers solely and distinctively to the language. Therefore no guesswork is necessary.
RandomCritic (
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13:20, 20 May 2010 (UTC)reply
comment. I'm confused by the very existence of "cat:Latin writers" for Middle Ages and up to the 19th century. Latin was the recognized language of science, a mandatory part of university programs (or even the language of universities, not to mention the Church), so properly populating these categories will inflate them to an unmanageable size. Is it possible to draw the line between "writing in Latin" = defining feature and "writing in Latin" = following corporate standard?
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06:00, 21 May 2010 (UTC)reply
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Category:People from Las Vegas, Nevada
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Nominator's rationale:Rename. The contents are mostly not from the City of Las Vegas. They are people from the metro area. Once this is moved, I'll recreate the category and move back in the few articles that can be clearly identified as having come from the city or notable for something in the city. Note that having a Las Vegas mailing address does not mean that you live in the city. Further note that news sources and GPSs do not distinguish between the city and the surrounding communities instead dumping everything into Las Vegas.
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18:39, 19 May 2010 (UTC)reply
The biggest part of making this happen on a broader basis is that someone may need to know specifics about where the person is actually from. In parts of the country where everything is incorporated and a specific citation is available, then this type of change can happen. That is especially true if you have subcategories that can be included. While a good idea, it may not gain general traction.
Vegaswikian (
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22:38, 19 May 2010 (UTC)reply
Well, where the sources are vague, by metro area needs to be the first priority, as is the basis of this nom. Up till now we ve tended to cat people in the States by metro area but werent calling it that in the naming of our cat pages. Then where we have the specifics, as we have them, go with them. A big one is where counties are within a metro area and people are listed by those counties, then we can have appropriate sub-catting
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00:12, 20 May 2010 (UTC)reply
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Sub-cats of 19th-century newspaper publishers (people)
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Category:19th-century American businesspeople
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Hold on with publishers. Are you confident that they all qualify primarily as businesspeople, rather than editors, men of letters etc.? Should
L. Frank Baum be labelled a businessman? That is, upmerge and thoroughly clean it up.
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07:34, 22 May 2010 (UTC)reply
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Category:19th-century German philosophers
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Lists of settlements
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Category:Blues Brothers
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Nominator's rationale:Merge. Currently a single entry category where the proposed target is the only valid parent category. The others are redlinked. I'm not convinced that we currently need this category.
Vegaswikian (
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20:40, 19 May 2010 (UTC)reply
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Category:20th-century women writers
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Nominator's rationale:Merge. I think this is another of the by century categories that can be deleted with the contents being moved to other categories. I think that we may be better served in the long run if we don't upmerge to
Category:20th-century women, but I have included that as a recommended target.
Vegaswikian (
talk)
20:25, 19 May 2010 (UTC)reply
See other discussions
1,
2,
3,
4. While not the same, they are in my opinion similar enough. Being part of a series was not an impediment for deletion or upmerging.
Vegaswikian (
talk)
22:31, 19 May 2010 (UTC)reply
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Category:Latin writers
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What is the point of this name change? Is there any evidence that anybody has actually misunderstood the meaning of these categories? What exactly *is* the 'lack of clarity' that is being targeted by this renaming?
RandomCritic (
talk)
21:20, 19 May 2010 (UTC)reply
Writers about Latin (history, culture, language); writers who are Latin (Latin American, Latin European, Roman) or writers who write whatever in Latin. That the writers are the third type is my first guess, but it is a guess
Mayumashu (
talk)
23:24, 19 May 2010 (UTC)reply
"Latin" by itself doesn't have any of those meanings; it refers solely and distinctively to the language. Therefore no guesswork is necessary.
RandomCritic (
talk)
13:20, 20 May 2010 (UTC)reply
comment. I'm confused by the very existence of "cat:Latin writers" for Middle Ages and up to the 19th century. Latin was the recognized language of science, a mandatory part of university programs (or even the language of universities, not to mention the Church), so properly populating these categories will inflate them to an unmanageable size. Is it possible to draw the line between "writing in Latin" = defining feature and "writing in Latin" = following corporate standard?
East of Borschov (
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06:00, 21 May 2010 (UTC)reply
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Category:People from Las Vegas, Nevada
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Nominator's rationale:Rename. The contents are mostly not from the City of Las Vegas. They are people from the metro area. Once this is moved, I'll recreate the category and move back in the few articles that can be clearly identified as having come from the city or notable for something in the city. Note that having a Las Vegas mailing address does not mean that you live in the city. Further note that news sources and GPSs do not distinguish between the city and the surrounding communities instead dumping everything into Las Vegas.
Vegaswikian (
talk)
18:39, 19 May 2010 (UTC)reply
The biggest part of making this happen on a broader basis is that someone may need to know specifics about where the person is actually from. In parts of the country where everything is incorporated and a specific citation is available, then this type of change can happen. That is especially true if you have subcategories that can be included. While a good idea, it may not gain general traction.
Vegaswikian (
talk)
22:38, 19 May 2010 (UTC)reply
Well, where the sources are vague, by metro area needs to be the first priority, as is the basis of this nom. Up till now we ve tended to cat people in the States by metro area but werent calling it that in the naming of our cat pages. Then where we have the specifics, as we have them, go with them. A big one is where counties are within a metro area and people are listed by those counties, then we can have appropriate sub-catting
Mayumashu (
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00:12, 20 May 2010 (UTC)reply
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Sub-cats of 19th-century newspaper publishers (people)
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Category:19th-century American businesspeople
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Hold on with publishers. Are you confident that they all qualify primarily as businesspeople, rather than editors, men of letters etc.? Should
L. Frank Baum be labelled a businessman? That is, upmerge and thoroughly clean it up.
East of Borschov (
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07:34, 22 May 2010 (UTC)reply
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Category:19th-century German philosophers
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Category:Blues Brothers
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