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I'm kind of indifferent as to which is used, but I do think that the article and category name should correspond. Maybe a proposal to move the article could be made?
Good Ol’factory(talk)01:53, 22 June 2010 (UTC)reply
The proposed move has been made. I also updated the article to remove unofficial, it may have been an error, the legistlation says the earlier name was Snares Islands
[2].
XLerate (
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03:05, 22 June 2010 (UTC)reply
I'm willing to have the close of this proposal put on hold until the article rename discussion finishes and I think it should follow whatever name results from the move request.
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The result of the discussion was:move to Talk pages. There's no reason this category shouldn't exist, but it should follow the pattern of such info coming from the Talk pages. I'll put this under Manual work.--
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Nominator's rationale:Delete. Another reason why templates should not add categories. {{Infobox nuclear power station}} adds this maintenance category on the article page when no image is provided. All other projects include the missing picture category on the talk page. These either use a separate infobox to request the image or include it as a parameter on the assessment project template. One could argue this could simply be changed to a hidden category. While that might be an alternative, I think that using the standard way to include the category within the project template is the better solution. While the current request is generated by the template if no image is provided, the loss of this functionality and requiring manual inputting of this should not be a major issue. If someone would like to manually move the category to the talk page, that is an alternative. But I don't think we need to make it a requirement for this discussion.
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Delete per nom. Right now it appears that there are only two articles, so there is no need for this category. No need to upmerge since the articles are also listed in the parent. Recreation allowed in the future if justified by more articles.
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Nominator's rationale: Another renewable energy micro-category by banned user Mac, the main article
Power purchase agreement describes it as: "a legal contract between an electricity generator (provider) and a power purchaser (host). The power purchaser purchases energy, and sometimes also capacity and/or ancillary services, from the electricity generator. Such agreements play a key role in the financing of independently owned (i.e. not owned by a utility) electricity generating assets." Two articles had been placed in this category: one was for a photovoltaic manufacturing company which has no mention of power purchase agreements, which I removed; the other was for
Sunetric, which according to the article does provide financing via such an agreement, which I left. I suggest deleting per
WP:OC#TRIVIA. I've cleaned up and added categories to
Power purchase agreement and
Sunetric, but I don't see the need for an upmerge here.
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Feed-in tariff explains, it's "a policy mechanism... imposed on regional or national electric grid utilities to buy renewable electricity."
Net metering stares that it is "an electricity policy for consumers who own (generally small) renewable energy facilities (such as wind, solar power or home fuel cells) or V2G electric vehicles" to sell their power back, as part of a feed-in tariff system. So they're really about the same thing, from different perspectives. Both categories are sparsely populated and as categories the distinction is ill-defined and arbitrary. They would benefit from being upmerged to master categories
Category:Smart grid,
Category:Renewable energy policy and as costs are discussed, perhaps
Category:Renewable-energy economy, too.
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Nominator's rationale:Rename. Since it includes
Category:Communist Party of the Soviet Union as a subcategory, there is no reason to restrict this to pre-CPSU parties in the early Soviet Union. It can just as easily be named to encompass all the communist parties that ever existed in the Soviet Union. If renamed, the category definition must be changed, but the contents can remain the same.
Good Ol’factory(talk)08:18, 1 July 2010 (UTC)reply
weak oppose exact proposal, support rename in general: it needs a better name. The Union emerged in December 1922. The contents (and, imo, intention) of the category focus on the earlier period (the Union very soon became a single-party state). It is not precisely about Soviet Russia, neither about the former Empire (Polish and Finnish factions are excluded, Lithuanian is included, FWIW) - rather, about the huge sea of confusion and lawlessness.
East of Borschov08:40, 1 July 2010 (UTC)reply
Open to any other proposals. From what I've seen, most categories refer to the period starting in 1917 as "the Soviet Union", though of course that's not 100% accurate, as you indicate.
Good Ol’factory(talk)21:51, 1 July 2010 (UTC)reply
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Nominator's rationale:Rename. Right now this category is ambiguous—it's unclear if it means communist parties that existed in the Soviet Union, it being a "former" country; or if it means communist parties that have existed in the territory that was formerly the Soviet Union since the dissolution of the Soviet Union. In reality it is categorizing the latter. I suggest renaming this to match its parent category
Category:Post-Soviet states, which should clarify the meaning somewhat.
Good Ol’factory(talk)08:14, 1 July 2010 (UTC)reply
Comment: This is a bit of a difficult category, since it includes both pre-Soviet, Soviet and post-Soviet parties in the lands that once was the USSR. I created it since it was very difficult to differentiate between Europe and Asia categories otherwise. But perhaps it best option would be to delete the category, and move material either to Europe or Asia, and have a sub-cat
Category:Communist Parties in the Russian Federation and
Category:Communist Party of the Soviet Union included in both Europe and Asia categories. --
Soman (
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13:06, 1 July 2010 (UTC)reply
Ah, I didn't realise there was pre-Soviet parties in there too. In light of that, I agree that this is a bit more difficult. Too bad there's no handy collective term that can refer to the territory that was once the Soviet Union?
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Delete – not a defining feature of an album, eg one doesn't say of
Band on the Run that it was famously remastered by Hoffman (the word Hoffman does appear twice in the article but it is preceded twice by 'Dustin').
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Nominator's rationale:Delete. Trivial categorization. There's no reason to categorize pages by what type of barnstar a user has received. —
ξxplicit02:26, 1 July 2010 (UTC)reply
Disagree. It's a user category, created so that it is possible to easily see who has (and how many have) received the barnstar. --
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I'm kind of indifferent as to which is used, but I do think that the article and category name should correspond. Maybe a proposal to move the article could be made?
Good Ol’factory(talk)01:53, 22 June 2010 (UTC)reply
The proposed move has been made. I also updated the article to remove unofficial, it may have been an error, the legistlation says the earlier name was Snares Islands
[2].
XLerate (
talk)
03:05, 22 June 2010 (UTC)reply
I'm willing to have the close of this proposal put on hold until the article rename discussion finishes and I think it should follow whatever name results from the move request.
Good Ol’factory(talk)03:13, 22 June 2010 (UTC)reply
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The result of the discussion was:move to Talk pages. There's no reason this category shouldn't exist, but it should follow the pattern of such info coming from the Talk pages. I'll put this under Manual work.--
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00:43, 14 July 2010 (UTC)reply
Nominator's rationale:Delete. Another reason why templates should not add categories. {{Infobox nuclear power station}} adds this maintenance category on the article page when no image is provided. All other projects include the missing picture category on the talk page. These either use a separate infobox to request the image or include it as a parameter on the assessment project template. One could argue this could simply be changed to a hidden category. While that might be an alternative, I think that using the standard way to include the category within the project template is the better solution. While the current request is generated by the template if no image is provided, the loss of this functionality and requiring manual inputting of this should not be a major issue. If someone would like to manually move the category to the talk page, that is an alternative. But I don't think we need to make it a requirement for this discussion.
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Delete per nom. Right now it appears that there are only two articles, so there is no need for this category. No need to upmerge since the articles are also listed in the parent. Recreation allowed in the future if justified by more articles.
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Nominator's rationale: Another renewable energy micro-category by banned user Mac, the main article
Power purchase agreement describes it as: "a legal contract between an electricity generator (provider) and a power purchaser (host). The power purchaser purchases energy, and sometimes also capacity and/or ancillary services, from the electricity generator. Such agreements play a key role in the financing of independently owned (i.e. not owned by a utility) electricity generating assets." Two articles had been placed in this category: one was for a photovoltaic manufacturing company which has no mention of power purchase agreements, which I removed; the other was for
Sunetric, which according to the article does provide financing via such an agreement, which I left. I suggest deleting per
WP:OC#TRIVIA. I've cleaned up and added categories to
Power purchase agreement and
Sunetric, but I don't see the need for an upmerge here.
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17:05, 1 July 2010 (UTC)reply
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Feed-in tariff explains, it's "a policy mechanism... imposed on regional or national electric grid utilities to buy renewable electricity."
Net metering stares that it is "an electricity policy for consumers who own (generally small) renewable energy facilities (such as wind, solar power or home fuel cells) or V2G electric vehicles" to sell their power back, as part of a feed-in tariff system. So they're really about the same thing, from different perspectives. Both categories are sparsely populated and as categories the distinction is ill-defined and arbitrary. They would benefit from being upmerged to master categories
Category:Smart grid,
Category:Renewable energy policy and as costs are discussed, perhaps
Category:Renewable-energy economy, too.
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Nominator's rationale:Rename. Since it includes
Category:Communist Party of the Soviet Union as a subcategory, there is no reason to restrict this to pre-CPSU parties in the early Soviet Union. It can just as easily be named to encompass all the communist parties that ever existed in the Soviet Union. If renamed, the category definition must be changed, but the contents can remain the same.
Good Ol’factory(talk)08:18, 1 July 2010 (UTC)reply
weak oppose exact proposal, support rename in general: it needs a better name. The Union emerged in December 1922. The contents (and, imo, intention) of the category focus on the earlier period (the Union very soon became a single-party state). It is not precisely about Soviet Russia, neither about the former Empire (Polish and Finnish factions are excluded, Lithuanian is included, FWIW) - rather, about the huge sea of confusion and lawlessness.
East of Borschov08:40, 1 July 2010 (UTC)reply
Open to any other proposals. From what I've seen, most categories refer to the period starting in 1917 as "the Soviet Union", though of course that's not 100% accurate, as you indicate.
Good Ol’factory(talk)21:51, 1 July 2010 (UTC)reply
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Nominator's rationale:Rename. Right now this category is ambiguous—it's unclear if it means communist parties that existed in the Soviet Union, it being a "former" country; or if it means communist parties that have existed in the territory that was formerly the Soviet Union since the dissolution of the Soviet Union. In reality it is categorizing the latter. I suggest renaming this to match its parent category
Category:Post-Soviet states, which should clarify the meaning somewhat.
Good Ol’factory(talk)08:14, 1 July 2010 (UTC)reply
Comment: This is a bit of a difficult category, since it includes both pre-Soviet, Soviet and post-Soviet parties in the lands that once was the USSR. I created it since it was very difficult to differentiate between Europe and Asia categories otherwise. But perhaps it best option would be to delete the category, and move material either to Europe or Asia, and have a sub-cat
Category:Communist Parties in the Russian Federation and
Category:Communist Party of the Soviet Union included in both Europe and Asia categories. --
Soman (
talk)
13:06, 1 July 2010 (UTC)reply
Ah, I didn't realise there was pre-Soviet parties in there too. In light of that, I agree that this is a bit more difficult. Too bad there's no handy collective term that can refer to the territory that was once the Soviet Union?
Good Ol’factory(talk)21:55, 1 July 2010 (UTC)reply
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Delete – not a defining feature of an album, eg one doesn't say of
Band on the Run that it was famously remastered by Hoffman (the word Hoffman does appear twice in the article but it is preceded twice by 'Dustin').
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Nominator's rationale:Delete. Trivial categorization. There's no reason to categorize pages by what type of barnstar a user has received. —
ξxplicit02:26, 1 July 2010 (UTC)reply
Disagree. It's a user category, created so that it is possible to easily see who has (and how many have) received the barnstar. --
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