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Comment -- Drinking establishment may be the US term. It is not the British one, and should not be imposed on Canada. I do not know what terms they use, but the category should conform to nataional usage, not what some foreign WP-ian think it should be.
Peterkingiron (
talk)
22:59, 15 January 2010 (UTC)reply
Exactly: national terminology should be used for each country category, even if it fails to conform to the international neutral title of the parent. This is often done, thoughmore often merely by using British selling for British categories and US spelling for American ones.
Peterkingiron (
talk)
17:31, 17 January 2010 (UTC)reply
Just keep in mind that Canadian terminology is much more likely to follow American rather than British models. We don't call gasoline "petrol" or trucks "lorries," for examples. And the nominated category is equally unsuited to Canada.
Shawn in Montreal (
talk)
00:37, 20 January 2010 (UTC)reply
Just as Canadians don't call gasoline "petrol", they don't call pubs "drinking establishments". Canadians definitely use the term pub instead of "public house", but the all-encompassing term "bar" could be used instead for a category.
DigitalC (
talk)
21:58, 23 January 2010 (UTC)reply
Well, no, of course, no one says I'm going to the "drinking establishment": it's simply a broad generic top-level category name, as we often use here. As Kevlar points out below, a tavern is not strictly speaking a bar, at least not in Canada. A tavern is more likely to be a beer parlour (in Quebec, it also meant male-only until relatively recently) whereas a bar is more associated with hard liquor and mixed drinks, at least in my experience. As for pub: it has currency as a specifically UK or Irish-themed drinking establishment only.
Shawn in Montreal (
talk)
22:04, 26 January 2010 (UTC)reply
Agreed with Shawn. While Canada certainly does have pubs, we also have far more drinking establishments that aren't pubs — unlike the UK, where the pub is the predominant type of drinking establishment, in Canada they're just one type among many. And not the most common type, either. And furthermore, even for the places in Canada that are pubs, there aren't enough encyclopedically notable ones to justify a separate subcategory just for pubs alone. I don't particularly care whether the replacement category is named "Bars" or "Drinking establishments" — and what people actually say in conversation about their own Friday night plans is irrelevant to that determination, because it's about finding a term that appropriately includes all licensed drinking establishments whether they're nightclubs, pubs, taverns, lounges, sports bars or whatever — but the current term isn't suitable. Rename.
Bearcat (
talk)
01:20, 28 January 2010 (UTC)reply
Rename to
Category:Pubs in Canada... as a Canadian, I have never encountered the term "public house" (it's probably used in law, but who uses legal terms in common parlance?), I have seen the term "drinking establishment" being used, but not much. "Bar" and "Pub" are commonly used though.
76.66.197.17 (
talk)
05:37, 17 January 2010 (UTC)reply
Rename to either
Category:Bars in Canada or
Category:Pubs in Canada. Some pubs do refer to themselves as public houses (ie, the Yellowbelly Brewery & Public House, the Library Square Public House, The Queen and Beaver Public House, etc.) however, the commonly used term would be "Pub". "Bars in Canada" would encompass more than just pubs, as people refer to both pubs and nightclubs as "Bars". I have my doubt that people in other Commonwealth countries refer to pubs as "public houses", although they would likely be listed as such in the yellow pages.
DigitalC (
talk)
15:30, 17 January 2010 (UTC)reply
Rename per nom. I had no idea what a Public House was until this CfD. Canada is not the U.K., and in this particular case its "Commonwealth" status really has no bearing, IMO
Shawn in Montreal (
talk)
18:12, 19 January 2010 (UTC)reply
Comment. To clarify, I am a Canadian and use Canadian English. The term "public house" is rare and archaic here. Pub is used but it simply considered one type of drinking establishment of which are are many other sub-types including taverns, bars, clubs, lounges, etc. --
Kevlar (
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contribs)
00:16, 26 January 2010 (UTC)reply
Rename per nom. "Drinking establishment" is language-neutral and descriptive. Subcategories for pubs, bars, and other types of drinking establishments can be created later if they are needed (e.g., if the category becomes overpopulated). –Black Falcon(
talk)19:58, 27 January 2010 (UTC)reply
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Comment -- Drinking establishment may be the US term. It is not the British one, and should not be imposed on Australia. I do not know what terms they use, but the category should conform to nataional usage, not what some foreign WP-ian think it should be.
Peterkingiron (
talk)
23:00, 15 January 2010 (UTC)reply
Support Here, the matter is different. Whereas the Canadian nom is changing the term used, this one is not, it merely changes the word order to match the parent category, and introduces a more natural form for those familiar with the category system.
Bradjamesbrown (
talk)
23:33, 15 January 2010 (UTC)reply
Support –
Punters Club seems not be a pub although many of the XXX Hotels in the category are described as pubs (a hotel in the UK may or may not be a pub depending on its main business).
Occuli (
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01:49, 16 January 2010 (UTC)reply
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The result of the discussion was:NO CONSENSUS. Re: Peterkingiron's comment, the whole -by nationality structure should be nominated/discussed at once based on that rationale. postdlf (talk)
16:25, 25 January 2010 (UTC)reply
Merge several of the Swedenborgian categories probably need upmerging to their parent. This is a relatively small sect, and all except the American and English categories (the latter the sole member of the British category) have only 1 or 2 members. My prefernece is to upmerge all, leaving British (with English merged to it) and American as the only subcats, and the rest as articles in the parent. National categories can be re-created if the parent becomes heavily populated, but I dount that it will.
Peterkingiron (
talk)
17:27, 17 January 2010 (UTC)reply
neutral (creator). I don't really care what happens, but I think when it was created there were a couple of other articles, which may have subsequently been deleted.
Good Ol’factory(talk)22:27, 20 January 2010 (UTC)reply
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Category:Teenage Pregnancy
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Nominator's rationale: The description for inclusion in this category is "Women who have given birth between the age ranges of 13-19." To me, this implies a value judgment regarding who is included. There are no inclusions whatsoever of article pertaining to such a category. This is a category based on a transitory condition related to the body. Sort of akin to identifying someone who is overweight at some point. This is inappropriate.
Wildhartlivie (
talk)
12:34, 15 January 2010 (UTC)reply
Delete; no prejudice to create
Category:Teenage pregnancy when appropriate. "Teen pregnancy" is or was the norm in most of the world, and thus undefining for individual pregnant teens; however, the phenomenon is correlated in the industrialized West with sexual health problems, school dropouts, child poverty, illegitimacy, and other things that attract attention. That said, browsing
Teenage pregnancy I didn't see many links that would logically belong in such a category.-
choster (
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20:55, 15 January 2010 (UTC)reply
Comment -- I have added a parent category, so that it is not an orphan, but I found the category empty. If kept and intended to be
Category:Women who became pregnant under the age of 19, it seems to me that there are two different groups: (1) those who became pregnant when above the age of consent, which is a normal consequence of lawful sexual intercourse, for which I dount we need a category at all (2) those who became pregnant below that age (who at - at least technically - victims of child abuse), potentially
Category:Women who became pregnant under the age of consent, but how many of them willbe notable? The age of consent no dount varies between countries; in mine it is 16. We already have
Category:Precocious puberty and pregnancy, which partly deals with the latter (though its main article is
Precocious puberty. The two women, who were listed, both gave birth at the age of 17 or more, in circumstances that are hardly extraordinary. As an empty category, the best solution is probably to delete it.
Peterkingiron (
talk)
23:16, 15 January 2010 (UTC)reply
There's a goodly number of nuns who'd be in there too. But you're right: only in the more developed parts of the world, in the 20th century, that teenage pregnancy became in any way unusual. --
BrownHairedGirl(talk) • (
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23:49, 15 January 2010 (UTC)reply
Hello there I am the one who started this catergory NO way is this supposed to be judgemental its purely factual when a woman gives birth between 13-19 its called teenage pregnancy NOT a POV point at all since that is whats its called, people are letting there own POV get interferred who are nominating it for deletion because its a taboo topic term for them to hear and isnt something perhaps many of who were on the list wud be proud to have catergorized. well I thought wikipedia should never allow itself to turn itself into the fanpage for the people biographed?
Some of the women that were on the list were MARRIED and in some places in the world giving birth at 18 isnt unsual.If the caterogry needs work i think would be more apporiate but to delete when it was just created out of bias would be incorrect.
Miss-simworld (
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16:47, 16 January 2010 (UTC)reply
Comment also if people are afraid of women being single out then I would be open for the catergory title being changed into "Teenage Parents". If people want men to be included aswell
Miss-simworld (
talk)
22:34, 16 January 2010 (UTC)reply
Question. How exactly is it defining when, as several editors have pointed out, it is a characteristic of most women in human history? It's probably a characteristic of more women than "married women" would be". --
BrownHairedGirl(talk) • (
contribs)
18:56, 19 January 2010 (UTC)reply
Delete. Arbitrary and not generally a defining characteristic. If you look back in history, you will find that the later births we are seeing today is far from the past norm. As I recall in the middle ages 13 was the normal age for a mother to give birth. So without something more specific age (or age and century) this is useless. Being able to source someones age when they gave birth does not mean we need a category. I'll also argue that this becomes even more meaningless when you consider that many of these teenagers are married so what makes this defining for them.
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00:04, 23 January 2010 (UTC)reply
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I propose deleting both of these categories for being
narrow intersections. For the first one, its name is really over-specific considering there's no other country with a "online literature writers" category. For the second one, I suppose it could be renamed to "Filipino short stories", but with only one page inside I don't see the point in renaming.
Kimchi.sg (
talk)
03:22, 15 January 2010 (UTC)reply
Keep the second one and rename it appropriately to suit
Category:Short story collections by nationality, and change the parents to correct ones (eg a book is not a writer). (This assumes the book is notable. It is minimally sourced.) The first one should be deleted unless someone can find other "online literature writers" categories (its sole article is in several 'Filipino writers' categories).
Occuli (
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22:15, 15 January 2010 (UTC)reply
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Small Bahá'í Faith by country categories
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Nomination comment: The rationale for all of those listed below is the same except for the creation dates. I've separated them out into sections in case users want to discuss the possibility of more additions to the category of a particular country, since the current state of the Bahá'í Faith in some of these places is vastly different.
Good Ol’factory(talk)00:25, 15 January 2010 (UTC)reply
Comment I'ld beg folks indulgence. I agree there are many times few articles per category, but most of the focus has been on filling out the main category of articles per country and only tangentially pulling in other articles. I think I've demonstrated that articles could be written about just about any country. Branching out to other topics per country is demonstrated in some articles like the UK but regional articles per country have not been a focus so far. I think review of many country articles will find mention of subregions often which could be articles later. From my standpoint it would simply be easier if the overall parallel structure were ... parallel. However I'm hearted to see " without prejudice to re-creation".
Smkolins (
talk)
17:34, 15 January 2010 (UTC)reply
Creating a series of other other articles to populate all these categories sounds like a lot of work. If you're prepared to do that work, then I wish you well ... but until those other articles exist, the categories are not needed. --
BrownHairedGirl(talk) • (
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17:51, 15 January 2010 (UTC)reply
Creating all the articles myself has never been my aim. But for more than one reason I've pressed ahead and certainly welcome more input.
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17:56, 15 January 2010 (UTC)reply
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Comment -- Drinking establishment may be the US term. It is not the British one, and should not be imposed on Canada. I do not know what terms they use, but the category should conform to nataional usage, not what some foreign WP-ian think it should be.
Peterkingiron (
talk)
22:59, 15 January 2010 (UTC)reply
Exactly: national terminology should be used for each country category, even if it fails to conform to the international neutral title of the parent. This is often done, thoughmore often merely by using British selling for British categories and US spelling for American ones.
Peterkingiron (
talk)
17:31, 17 January 2010 (UTC)reply
Just keep in mind that Canadian terminology is much more likely to follow American rather than British models. We don't call gasoline "petrol" or trucks "lorries," for examples. And the nominated category is equally unsuited to Canada.
Shawn in Montreal (
talk)
00:37, 20 January 2010 (UTC)reply
Just as Canadians don't call gasoline "petrol", they don't call pubs "drinking establishments". Canadians definitely use the term pub instead of "public house", but the all-encompassing term "bar" could be used instead for a category.
DigitalC (
talk)
21:58, 23 January 2010 (UTC)reply
Well, no, of course, no one says I'm going to the "drinking establishment": it's simply a broad generic top-level category name, as we often use here. As Kevlar points out below, a tavern is not strictly speaking a bar, at least not in Canada. A tavern is more likely to be a beer parlour (in Quebec, it also meant male-only until relatively recently) whereas a bar is more associated with hard liquor and mixed drinks, at least in my experience. As for pub: it has currency as a specifically UK or Irish-themed drinking establishment only.
Shawn in Montreal (
talk)
22:04, 26 January 2010 (UTC)reply
Agreed with Shawn. While Canada certainly does have pubs, we also have far more drinking establishments that aren't pubs — unlike the UK, where the pub is the predominant type of drinking establishment, in Canada they're just one type among many. And not the most common type, either. And furthermore, even for the places in Canada that are pubs, there aren't enough encyclopedically notable ones to justify a separate subcategory just for pubs alone. I don't particularly care whether the replacement category is named "Bars" or "Drinking establishments" — and what people actually say in conversation about their own Friday night plans is irrelevant to that determination, because it's about finding a term that appropriately includes all licensed drinking establishments whether they're nightclubs, pubs, taverns, lounges, sports bars or whatever — but the current term isn't suitable. Rename.
Bearcat (
talk)
01:20, 28 January 2010 (UTC)reply
Rename to
Category:Pubs in Canada... as a Canadian, I have never encountered the term "public house" (it's probably used in law, but who uses legal terms in common parlance?), I have seen the term "drinking establishment" being used, but not much. "Bar" and "Pub" are commonly used though.
76.66.197.17 (
talk)
05:37, 17 January 2010 (UTC)reply
Rename to either
Category:Bars in Canada or
Category:Pubs in Canada. Some pubs do refer to themselves as public houses (ie, the Yellowbelly Brewery & Public House, the Library Square Public House, The Queen and Beaver Public House, etc.) however, the commonly used term would be "Pub". "Bars in Canada" would encompass more than just pubs, as people refer to both pubs and nightclubs as "Bars". I have my doubt that people in other Commonwealth countries refer to pubs as "public houses", although they would likely be listed as such in the yellow pages.
DigitalC (
talk)
15:30, 17 January 2010 (UTC)reply
Rename per nom. I had no idea what a Public House was until this CfD. Canada is not the U.K., and in this particular case its "Commonwealth" status really has no bearing, IMO
Shawn in Montreal (
talk)
18:12, 19 January 2010 (UTC)reply
Comment. To clarify, I am a Canadian and use Canadian English. The term "public house" is rare and archaic here. Pub is used but it simply considered one type of drinking establishment of which are are many other sub-types including taverns, bars, clubs, lounges, etc. --
Kevlar (
talk •
contribs)
00:16, 26 January 2010 (UTC)reply
Rename per nom. "Drinking establishment" is language-neutral and descriptive. Subcategories for pubs, bars, and other types of drinking establishments can be created later if they are needed (e.g., if the category becomes overpopulated). –Black Falcon(
talk)19:58, 27 January 2010 (UTC)reply
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Comment -- Drinking establishment may be the US term. It is not the British one, and should not be imposed on Australia. I do not know what terms they use, but the category should conform to nataional usage, not what some foreign WP-ian think it should be.
Peterkingiron (
talk)
23:00, 15 January 2010 (UTC)reply
Support Here, the matter is different. Whereas the Canadian nom is changing the term used, this one is not, it merely changes the word order to match the parent category, and introduces a more natural form for those familiar with the category system.
Bradjamesbrown (
talk)
23:33, 15 January 2010 (UTC)reply
Support –
Punters Club seems not be a pub although many of the XXX Hotels in the category are described as pubs (a hotel in the UK may or may not be a pub depending on its main business).
Occuli (
talk)
01:49, 16 January 2010 (UTC)reply
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The result of the discussion was:NO CONSENSUS. Re: Peterkingiron's comment, the whole -by nationality structure should be nominated/discussed at once based on that rationale. postdlf (talk)
16:25, 25 January 2010 (UTC)reply
Merge several of the Swedenborgian categories probably need upmerging to their parent. This is a relatively small sect, and all except the American and English categories (the latter the sole member of the British category) have only 1 or 2 members. My prefernece is to upmerge all, leaving British (with English merged to it) and American as the only subcats, and the rest as articles in the parent. National categories can be re-created if the parent becomes heavily populated, but I dount that it will.
Peterkingiron (
talk)
17:27, 17 January 2010 (UTC)reply
neutral (creator). I don't really care what happens, but I think when it was created there were a couple of other articles, which may have subsequently been deleted.
Good Ol’factory(talk)22:27, 20 January 2010 (UTC)reply
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Category:Teenage Pregnancy
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Nominator's rationale: The description for inclusion in this category is "Women who have given birth between the age ranges of 13-19." To me, this implies a value judgment regarding who is included. There are no inclusions whatsoever of article pertaining to such a category. This is a category based on a transitory condition related to the body. Sort of akin to identifying someone who is overweight at some point. This is inappropriate.
Wildhartlivie (
talk)
12:34, 15 January 2010 (UTC)reply
Delete; no prejudice to create
Category:Teenage pregnancy when appropriate. "Teen pregnancy" is or was the norm in most of the world, and thus undefining for individual pregnant teens; however, the phenomenon is correlated in the industrialized West with sexual health problems, school dropouts, child poverty, illegitimacy, and other things that attract attention. That said, browsing
Teenage pregnancy I didn't see many links that would logically belong in such a category.-
choster (
talk)
20:55, 15 January 2010 (UTC)reply
Comment -- I have added a parent category, so that it is not an orphan, but I found the category empty. If kept and intended to be
Category:Women who became pregnant under the age of 19, it seems to me that there are two different groups: (1) those who became pregnant when above the age of consent, which is a normal consequence of lawful sexual intercourse, for which I dount we need a category at all (2) those who became pregnant below that age (who at - at least technically - victims of child abuse), potentially
Category:Women who became pregnant under the age of consent, but how many of them willbe notable? The age of consent no dount varies between countries; in mine it is 16. We already have
Category:Precocious puberty and pregnancy, which partly deals with the latter (though its main article is
Precocious puberty. The two women, who were listed, both gave birth at the age of 17 or more, in circumstances that are hardly extraordinary. As an empty category, the best solution is probably to delete it.
Peterkingiron (
talk)
23:16, 15 January 2010 (UTC)reply
There's a goodly number of nuns who'd be in there too. But you're right: only in the more developed parts of the world, in the 20th century, that teenage pregnancy became in any way unusual. --
BrownHairedGirl(talk) • (
contribs)
23:49, 15 January 2010 (UTC)reply
Hello there I am the one who started this catergory NO way is this supposed to be judgemental its purely factual when a woman gives birth between 13-19 its called teenage pregnancy NOT a POV point at all since that is whats its called, people are letting there own POV get interferred who are nominating it for deletion because its a taboo topic term for them to hear and isnt something perhaps many of who were on the list wud be proud to have catergorized. well I thought wikipedia should never allow itself to turn itself into the fanpage for the people biographed?
Some of the women that were on the list were MARRIED and in some places in the world giving birth at 18 isnt unsual.If the caterogry needs work i think would be more apporiate but to delete when it was just created out of bias would be incorrect.
Miss-simworld (
talk)
16:47, 16 January 2010 (UTC)reply
Comment also if people are afraid of women being single out then I would be open for the catergory title being changed into "Teenage Parents". If people want men to be included aswell
Miss-simworld (
talk)
22:34, 16 January 2010 (UTC)reply
Question. How exactly is it defining when, as several editors have pointed out, it is a characteristic of most women in human history? It's probably a characteristic of more women than "married women" would be". --
BrownHairedGirl(talk) • (
contribs)
18:56, 19 January 2010 (UTC)reply
Delete. Arbitrary and not generally a defining characteristic. If you look back in history, you will find that the later births we are seeing today is far from the past norm. As I recall in the middle ages 13 was the normal age for a mother to give birth. So without something more specific age (or age and century) this is useless. Being able to source someones age when they gave birth does not mean we need a category. I'll also argue that this becomes even more meaningless when you consider that many of these teenagers are married so what makes this defining for them.
Vegaswikian (
talk)
00:04, 23 January 2010 (UTC)reply
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I propose deleting both of these categories for being
narrow intersections. For the first one, its name is really over-specific considering there's no other country with a "online literature writers" category. For the second one, I suppose it could be renamed to "Filipino short stories", but with only one page inside I don't see the point in renaming.
Kimchi.sg (
talk)
03:22, 15 January 2010 (UTC)reply
Keep the second one and rename it appropriately to suit
Category:Short story collections by nationality, and change the parents to correct ones (eg a book is not a writer). (This assumes the book is notable. It is minimally sourced.) The first one should be deleted unless someone can find other "online literature writers" categories (its sole article is in several 'Filipino writers' categories).
Occuli (
talk)
22:15, 15 January 2010 (UTC)reply
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Small Bahá'í Faith by country categories
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Nomination comment: The rationale for all of those listed below is the same except for the creation dates. I've separated them out into sections in case users want to discuss the possibility of more additions to the category of a particular country, since the current state of the Bahá'í Faith in some of these places is vastly different.
Good Ol’factory(talk)00:25, 15 January 2010 (UTC)reply
Comment I'ld beg folks indulgence. I agree there are many times few articles per category, but most of the focus has been on filling out the main category of articles per country and only tangentially pulling in other articles. I think I've demonstrated that articles could be written about just about any country. Branching out to other topics per country is demonstrated in some articles like the UK but regional articles per country have not been a focus so far. I think review of many country articles will find mention of subregions often which could be articles later. From my standpoint it would simply be easier if the overall parallel structure were ... parallel. However I'm hearted to see " without prejudice to re-creation".
Smkolins (
talk)
17:34, 15 January 2010 (UTC)reply
Creating a series of other other articles to populate all these categories sounds like a lot of work. If you're prepared to do that work, then I wish you well ... but until those other articles exist, the categories are not needed. --
BrownHairedGirl(talk) • (
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17:51, 15 January 2010 (UTC)reply
Creating all the articles myself has never been my aim. But for more than one reason I've pressed ahead and certainly welcome more input.
Smkolins (
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17:56, 15 January 2010 (UTC)reply
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