1. Nationality. The Jews are a nation, not just a religion. Just as there doesn't have to be a "French" way to do anything, there need not be a "Jewish" way to do anything for there to be a category. The Wikipedia entry for " Jew" indicates, inter alia, that Jews are "members of the Jewish people (also known as the Jewish nation ...)." The Wiki definition of " nationality" states, inter alia: "Generally, nationality is established at birth by a child's place of birth (jus soli) and/or bloodline (jus sanguinis)." In the (abnormal) case of Jews, who consist of a nation that has largely been dispersed from its homeland, it would not be appropriate to delete.
The Jewish ethnicity, nation, and religion of Judaism are strongly interrelated, as Judaism is the traditional faith of the Jewish nation. [1] [2] [3]
Other religions are in the "normal case" distinct from the nation. In other words, there was not a Protestant, or Buddhist, or Christian, or Hindu, or Aethiest nation per se. They are not a "people." They are not a "nation." Jews, peculiarly, are not just a religion. They are also a nation. Dispersed (largely) for a couple of thousand years.
2. Heritage. See also Wiki Naming Convention Policy 3.3, which demonstrates that something such as this one are clearly contemplated, saying ...
Heritage People are sometimes categorized by notable ancestry, culture, or ethnicity, depending upon the common conventions of speech for each nationality. A hyphen is used to distinguish the word order....
Per Wikipedia:Categorization of people, Wikipedia also "supports categorizing People by religion and People by race or ethnicity." Also, as it states "People are usually categorized by their nationality and occupation, such as Category:Ethiopian musicians."
Furthermore, per Wikipedia:Categorization/Ethnicity, gender, religion and sexuality, "General categorization by ethnicity, gender, religion, or sexuality is permitted', with the following considerations:
3. Notability. Wiki policy calls for a sensitivity towards "notability." To determine what notability means here, one must go to Wikipedia:Notability (people), the notability criteria guideline for Wikipedia. That guideline states, inter alia, that "Notability on Wikipedia for people is based on the following criterion: The person has been a primary subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent of the person. This criterion includes published works in all forms, such as newspaper articles, magazine articles, books, scholarly papers, and television documentaries ...."
Thus, where one is noted as being a Jew in multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent of the person, such as newspaper articles, magazine articles, books, and the like, they meet the notability requirement. And thus it would be appropriate to have a distinct category.
This category has certainly been one that has attracted scholarly and academic and non-trivial attention, such as "Jewish Emigration from Germany in the First Years of Nazi Rule; The Emigration of Jewish Academics and Professionals from Germany in the First Years of Nazi Rule", [4] "In Search of Refuge: Jews and US Consuls in Nazi Germany 1933-1941", by Bat-Ami Zucker, [5] "American Protestantism's Response to Germany's Jews and Refugees: 1933-1941", by William E. Nawyn, [6] "Jewish immigrants of the Nazi period in the USA", by Herbert Arthur Strauss, Steven W. Siegel, [7] "Lives Lost, Lives Found: Baltimore’s German Jewish Refugees, 1933-1945," [8] "The Reception of Refugee Scholars from Nazi Germany in America: Philanthropy and Social Change in Higher Education", by Marjorie Lamberti, [9] "Generation Exodus: The Fate of Young Jewish Refugees from Nazi Germany", by Walter Laqueur, [10] "No Haven for the Oppressed; United States Policy Toward Jewish Refugees, 1938-1945," by Saul S. Friedman [11] "German Jewish Refugees, 1933-1939", [12] "The Forced Emigration of German Jews", [13] THE GERMAN AND JEWISH INTELLECTUAL ÉMIGRÉ COLLECTION, [14] and "US Government Policy", by Stewart, [15].
Clearly, this category is just the sort contemplated by Wikipedia guidelines.-- Epeefleche ( talk) 19:46, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
1. Nationality. The Jews are a nation, not just a religion. Just as there doesn't have to be a "French" way to do anything, there need not be a "Jewish" way to do anything for there to be a category. The Wikipedia entry for " Jew" indicates, inter alia, that Jews are "members of the Jewish people (also known as the Jewish nation ...)." The Wiki definition of " nationality" states, inter alia: "Generally, nationality is established at birth by a child's place of birth (jus soli) and/or bloodline (jus sanguinis)." In the (abnormal) case of Jews, who consist of a nation that has largely been dispersed from its homeland, it would not be appropriate to delete.
The Jewish ethnicity, nation, and religion of Judaism are strongly interrelated, as Judaism is the traditional faith of the Jewish nation. [1] [2] [3]
Other religions are in the "normal case" distinct from the nation. In other words, there was not a Protestant, or Buddhist, or Christian, or Hindu, or Aethiest nation per se. They are not a "people." They are not a "nation." Jews, peculiarly, are not just a religion. They are also a nation. Dispersed (largely) for a couple of thousand years.
2. Heritage. See also Wiki Naming Convention Policy 3.3, which demonstrates that something such as this one are clearly contemplated, saying ...
Heritage People are sometimes categorized by notable ancestry, culture, or ethnicity, depending upon the common conventions of speech for each nationality. A hyphen is used to distinguish the word order....
Per Wikipedia:Categorization of people, Wikipedia also "supports categorizing People by religion and People by race or ethnicity." Also, as it states "People are usually categorized by their nationality and occupation, such as Category:Ethiopian musicians."
Furthermore, per Wikipedia:Categorization/Ethnicity, gender, religion and sexuality, "General categorization by ethnicity, gender, religion, or sexuality is permitted', with the following considerations:
3. Notability. Wiki policy calls for a sensitivity towards "notability." To determine what notability means here, one must go to Wikipedia:Notability (people), the notability criteria guideline for Wikipedia. That guideline states, inter alia, that "Notability on Wikipedia for people is based on the following criterion: The person has been a primary subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent of the person. This criterion includes published works in all forms, such as newspaper articles, magazine articles, books, scholarly papers, and television documentaries ...."
Thus, where one is noted as being a Jew in multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent of the person, such as newspaper articles, magazine articles, books, and the like, they meet the notability requirement. And thus it would be appropriate to have a distinct category.
This category has certainly been one that has attracted scholarly and academic and non-trivial attention, such as "Jewish Emigration from Germany in the First Years of Nazi Rule; The Emigration of Jewish Academics and Professionals from Germany in the First Years of Nazi Rule", [4] "In Search of Refuge: Jews and US Consuls in Nazi Germany 1933-1941", by Bat-Ami Zucker, [5] "American Protestantism's Response to Germany's Jews and Refugees: 1933-1941", by William E. Nawyn, [6] "Jewish immigrants of the Nazi period in the USA", by Herbert Arthur Strauss, Steven W. Siegel, [7] "Lives Lost, Lives Found: Baltimore’s German Jewish Refugees, 1933-1945," [8] "The Reception of Refugee Scholars from Nazi Germany in America: Philanthropy and Social Change in Higher Education", by Marjorie Lamberti, [9] "Generation Exodus: The Fate of Young Jewish Refugees from Nazi Germany", by Walter Laqueur, [10] "No Haven for the Oppressed; United States Policy Toward Jewish Refugees, 1938-1945," by Saul S. Friedman [11] "German Jewish Refugees, 1933-1939", [12] "The Forced Emigration of German Jews", [13] THE GERMAN AND JEWISH INTELLECTUAL ÉMIGRÉ COLLECTION, [14] and "US Government Policy", by Stewart, [15].
Clearly, this category is just the sort contemplated by Wikipedia guidelines.-- Epeefleche ( talk) 19:46, 28 June 2009 (UTC)