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Category:April Fool's Day 2006
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Nominator's rationale: I see no benefits inherent in trying to organize humor on Wikipedia by context. The first category has a title (it should be "Fools'", not "Fool's", by the way) that suggests that the category contains articles, similar to
Category:April Fools' Day. The second category references a defunct Wikipedia page (BJAODN was mostly deleted and its remnants moved to
Wikipedia:Silly Things per
this MfD) and contains mostly April Fools'-related stuff. –BLACK FALCON(
TALK)18:38, 29 August 2009 (UTC)reply
Keep WP BJAAODN / Delete AFD 2006 The BJAODN tracks a well-defined subject that has remained in use in Wikipedia, while the AFD 2006 does not.
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02:50, 4 September 2009 (UTC)reply
I don't know whether I agree that BJAODN was ever well-defined, but the BJAODN category currently contains mostly April Fools'-related content (maybe it contained more BJAODN-specific content before the MfD). –BLACK FALCON(
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Category:Military units and formations of the North Korean Army
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Nominator's rationale: The armed forces of North Korea are collectively known as the "Korean People's Army". This fact makes "North Korean Army" an ambiguous phrase, since it is not clear whether it refers to the KPA or to the land forces of the KPA, the
Korean People's Army Ground Force. Based on the content of this category, I have the impression that it is intended to include ground units and formations of the North Korean military. An alternative option to renaming is to upmerge to
Category:Military units and formations of North Korea, which currently contains only this category. (Category creator notified using {{cfd-notify}}.) –BLACK FALCON(
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Did you mean to say "and "North Korea" is unambiguous..."?
A merge would also be fine with me but I have no view on the need for the North Korean Army category, only a view on the name format if of such categor(ies) were to stay. Carlaude:Talk00:03, 31 August 2009 (UTC)reply
I meant that while it's true that all of the parent categories use the unofficial, short-form name of the country ("North Korea", which is unambiguous), that does not mean we should do the same for this category because "North Korean Army" is ambiguous. Of course, the poitn is moot if the category is merged... –BLACK FALCON(
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Category:Speakers
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Nominator's rationale: The word "speakers" can refer to people who speak in front of audiences, but the category is about the electromechanical devices that produce sound waves. The word "loudspeakers" is unambiguous.
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Rename per nom, to match the main article & other categories in the tree. Wondering how this has managed to survive since 2005, I find it was set up by none other than Kdbank71 after
this debate. Those were the days!
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Category:New York Giants field personnel
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Category:Fruits of the desert
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Why do you want useful desert seeds and plants to be listed at the category "Fruits of the desert"? The use of the broader meaning of "fruits", on par with "plant-based bounty", invites misinterpretation.
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Category:Universities and colleges affiliated with the Reformed Presbyterian Church of North America
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Nominator's rationale: Extremely narrow category — there is only one college affiliated with the RPCNA, and there aren't prospects of more coming into existence. One other college (without an article at this point) existed in the mid-19th century, but even if there were an article on it, there would be no need to have a category with only two possible articles.
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Category:Rudimental Percussion
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I am normally a strong proponent of upmerging, but all the member articles are already in other more specific sub-categories of Percussion, so it is not necessary in this case. -
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Category:Peer review
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Nominator's rationale:Rename to make it clear that this is a project/administrative category, and also because I wish to create a separate category for
peer review in the academic/scientific sense. Eastlawtalk ⁄ contribs07:56, 29 August 2009 (UTC)reply
Rename, can't imagine why this would be a bad idea, and no good reason to hold up the existence of a category for articles.
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Category:Current events Canada
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Category:Astronomy image articles
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"astronomy images" is part of an image heirarchy, and is part of the classification of images by discipline, so should definitely be kept around, whatever it's name is. Placing articles into a files category is the wrong thing to do.
76.66.196.139 (
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06:07, 5 September 2009 (UTC)reply
Clear keep and no merging or renaming into images categories, because this is an article category (just that they are articles about images).
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23:08, 29 August 2009 (UTC)reply
The way Wikipedia currently seems to categorize articles (based on the results of various CfDs and
Category:Wikipedia images), a category named Foo images would be understood to contain articles about images related to Foo, while a category named Wikipedia Foo images would be understood to contain media files related to Foo. I have never before seen the word "articles" kept in a non-maintenance category. –BLACK FALCON(
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Category:Coatbridge irish
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The result of the discussion was:Speedy delete as empty - this could have been speedily renamed rather than being brought forward for a full nomination. --Xdamrtalk14:34, 5 September 2009 (UTC)reply
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Category:Anzac class destroyers
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Nominator's rationale:Rename. To bring in line with ship class article at
Parker class leader. Note: The one reliable source I have access to matches the name of the article and does not mention the Anzac name. Further, the article itself—for what it's worth—specifically calls the "Anzac class" name erroneous. —
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Other than having the "Parker" in it somewhere, I'm totally open to whatever else it should say. For comparison we have the following with similar Royal Navy classes:
Aha, I thought there would be more uniformity, but there isn't. Clearly, all the categories should hew as closely as possible to the article name of the class of ship. The problem, then, is the wide variance in article names. I'm still a fan of just "destroyer" instead of any kind of this or that leader, but these are your babies, Bellhalla. What do you want for them?
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Category:Old school rappers
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Listify and delete. I can just imagine the longterm nonstop arguments about each artist in the category regarding their early style and their later style, with unsolved questions about whether abandoning the old school style at any point takes them out of the category, or whether it stays with them forever once they release one old school song. Too many unanswerable questions. In a list, a sense of time frame can be applied, where editors can agree that some number of releases were old school but not afterward. You can say MC Olde Skoole (1985–1989), or put the active old school years in a column of a table.
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Category:April Fool's Day 2006
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Nominator's rationale: I see no benefits inherent in trying to organize humor on Wikipedia by context. The first category has a title (it should be "Fools'", not "Fool's", by the way) that suggests that the category contains articles, similar to
Category:April Fools' Day. The second category references a defunct Wikipedia page (BJAODN was mostly deleted and its remnants moved to
Wikipedia:Silly Things per
this MfD) and contains mostly April Fools'-related stuff. –BLACK FALCON(
TALK)18:38, 29 August 2009 (UTC)reply
Keep WP BJAAODN / Delete AFD 2006 The BJAODN tracks a well-defined subject that has remained in use in Wikipedia, while the AFD 2006 does not.
Alansohn (
talk)
02:50, 4 September 2009 (UTC)reply
I don't know whether I agree that BJAODN was ever well-defined, but the BJAODN category currently contains mostly April Fools'-related content (maybe it contained more BJAODN-specific content before the MfD). –BLACK FALCON(
TALK)16:14, 5 September 2009 (UTC)reply
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Category:Military units and formations of the North Korean Army
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Nominator's rationale: The armed forces of North Korea are collectively known as the "Korean People's Army". This fact makes "North Korean Army" an ambiguous phrase, since it is not clear whether it refers to the KPA or to the land forces of the KPA, the
Korean People's Army Ground Force. Based on the content of this category, I have the impression that it is intended to include ground units and formations of the North Korean military. An alternative option to renaming is to upmerge to
Category:Military units and formations of North Korea, which currently contains only this category. (Category creator notified using {{cfd-notify}}.) –BLACK FALCON(
TALK)18:22, 29 August 2009 (UTC)reply
Did you mean to say "and "North Korea" is unambiguous..."?
A merge would also be fine with me but I have no view on the need for the North Korean Army category, only a view on the name format if of such categor(ies) were to stay. Carlaude:Talk00:03, 31 August 2009 (UTC)reply
I meant that while it's true that all of the parent categories use the unofficial, short-form name of the country ("North Korea", which is unambiguous), that does not mean we should do the same for this category because "North Korean Army" is ambiguous. Of course, the poitn is moot if the category is merged... –BLACK FALCON(
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Category:Speakers
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Nominator's rationale: The word "speakers" can refer to people who speak in front of audiences, but the category is about the electromechanical devices that produce sound waves. The word "loudspeakers" is unambiguous.
Binksternet (
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18:00, 29 August 2009 (UTC)reply
Rename per nom, to match the main article & other categories in the tree. Wondering how this has managed to survive since 2005, I find it was set up by none other than Kdbank71 after
this debate. Those were the days!
Johnbod (
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18:57, 29 August 2009 (UTC)reply
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Category:New York Giants field personnel
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Category:Fruits of the desert
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Why do you want useful desert seeds and plants to be listed at the category "Fruits of the desert"? The use of the broader meaning of "fruits", on par with "plant-based bounty", invites misinterpretation.
Binksternet (
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02:29, 31 August 2009 (UTC)reply
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Category:Universities and colleges affiliated with the Reformed Presbyterian Church of North America
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Nominator's rationale: Extremely narrow category — there is only one college affiliated with the RPCNA, and there aren't prospects of more coming into existence. One other college (without an article at this point) existed in the mid-19th century, but even if there were an article on it, there would be no need to have a category with only two possible articles.
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Category:Rudimental Percussion
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I am normally a strong proponent of upmerging, but all the member articles are already in other more specific sub-categories of Percussion, so it is not necessary in this case. -
Fayenatic(talk)08:32, 30 August 2009 (UTC)reply
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Category:Peer review
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Nominator's rationale:Rename to make it clear that this is a project/administrative category, and also because I wish to create a separate category for
peer review in the academic/scientific sense. Eastlawtalk ⁄ contribs07:56, 29 August 2009 (UTC)reply
Rename, can't imagine why this would be a bad idea, and no good reason to hold up the existence of a category for articles.
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15:21, 29 August 2009 (UTC)reply
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Category:Astronomy image articles
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"astronomy images" is part of an image heirarchy, and is part of the classification of images by discipline, so should definitely be kept around, whatever it's name is. Placing articles into a files category is the wrong thing to do.
76.66.196.139 (
talk)
06:07, 5 September 2009 (UTC)reply
Clear keep and no merging or renaming into images categories, because this is an article category (just that they are articles about images).
Debresser (
talk)
23:08, 29 August 2009 (UTC)reply
The way Wikipedia currently seems to categorize articles (based on the results of various CfDs and
Category:Wikipedia images), a category named Foo images would be understood to contain articles about images related to Foo, while a category named Wikipedia Foo images would be understood to contain media files related to Foo. I have never before seen the word "articles" kept in a non-maintenance category. –BLACK FALCON(
TALK)19:49, 31 August 2009 (UTC)reply
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Category:Coatbridge irish
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The result of the discussion was:Speedy delete as empty - this could have been speedily renamed rather than being brought forward for a full nomination. --Xdamrtalk14:34, 5 September 2009 (UTC)reply
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Category:Anzac class destroyers
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Nominator's rationale:Rename. To bring in line with ship class article at
Parker class leader. Note: The one reliable source I have access to matches the name of the article and does not mention the Anzac name. Further, the article itself—for what it's worth—specifically calls the "Anzac class" name erroneous. —
Bellhalla (
talk)
05:04, 29 August 2009 (UTC)reply
Other than having the "Parker" in it somewhere, I'm totally open to whatever else it should say. For comparison we have the following with similar Royal Navy classes:
Aha, I thought there would be more uniformity, but there isn't. Clearly, all the categories should hew as closely as possible to the article name of the class of ship. The problem, then, is the wide variance in article names. I'm still a fan of just "destroyer" instead of any kind of this or that leader, but these are your babies, Bellhalla. What do you want for them?
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15:41, 30 August 2009 (UTC)reply
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Category:Old school rappers
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Listify and delete. I can just imagine the longterm nonstop arguments about each artist in the category regarding their early style and their later style, with unsolved questions about whether abandoning the old school style at any point takes them out of the category, or whether it stays with them forever once they release one old school song. Too many unanswerable questions. In a list, a sense of time frame can be applied, where editors can agree that some number of releases were old school but not afterward. You can say MC Olde Skoole (1985–1989), or put the active old school years in a column of a table.
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22:15, 29 August 2009 (UTC)reply
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