Category:Lists of anime television series episodes
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- The result of the discussion was: rename.
Good Ol’factory
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04:53, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
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- Propose renaming
Category:Lists of anime television series episodes to
Category:Lists of anime episodes
- Nominator's rationale: Contrary to its name, this category also currently contains episode lists for
OVA and
ONA series, neither of which are "television series" media types. However, there aren't enough lists of either type (yet) to justify splitting out separate categories, so this category should be renamed to reflect the wider scope. —
Dino
guy
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19:54, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
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Category:Buildings and structures by country
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- The result of the discussion was: keep. Create the other cat and split as desired.
Kbdank71
15:21, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
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- Propose spliting
Category:Buildings and structures by country into
Category:Buildings and structures by particular country and
Category:Building and structure type by country
- Nominator's rationale: Split.
Category:Buildings and structures by country has some 280 categories, so they cannot even fit on one page. About 230 of this categories are of this sort:
- And another 50 or so categories are of this sort:
- A split will make it much easier for users to find what they need.--
Carlaude (
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19:05, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
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- Please note that "following the naming convention of the parent" is a moot rationale.
- The are two parent categories. One parent category has only categories of the Category:Buildings and structures in Foo-Bar type and the other parent category only has categories of the Category:Foo-Bars by country type. To follow the naming conventions of the parent categories would be a good reason to split this category into the two.
- Let's say I am looking for one of the two sorts of subcategories (e.g. Category:Buildings and structures in Costa Rica), a name like
Category:Buildings and structures by type and country doesn't communicate which of the two sorts of subcategories it has within it. Category:Building and structure type (or types) by country is much more useful for this.--
Carlaude (
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15:16, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
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- The format I suggested is similar to that used in other categories. For example,
Category:People by nationality and occupation splits first by nationality, then occupation.
Category:Companies by industry and country splits first by industry, then country. --
Eliyak
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17:37, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
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- Maybe that is the intent, but is still not clear. Some of these Category:A by B and C have also been used to mix the two sorts of subcats togther. We need not follow this vague pattern if another format is an improvment.--
Carlaude (
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20:09, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
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Category:Fictional wizards
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- The result of the discussion was: merge.
Kbdank71
15:23, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
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- Merge
Category:Fictional wizards to
Category:Fictional characters who use magic
This was apparently a "catch-all" cat, from before the target cat above existed. Most of the members aren't actually called "wizards", but simply use magic.
As noted at
Magician (fantasy)#Names and terminology, what the names applied to magic-using characters means varies depending on the author.
And finally, having these separate would seem to be a hindrance, rather than a help, to navigation. -
jc37
19:00, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
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- Merge - as nominator. -
jc37
19:00, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
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- Keep - Where magic users can be more definitively identified they should be in subcats like this one, just as with all of the fictional alchemists, fairies and sprites, necromancers, shamans and witches that are already existing within the
Category:Fictional characters who use magic structure. If individual entries are miscategorized they should be corrected, but that would not be a valid argument for deletion.
Alansohn (
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19:50, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
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- Merge - as per nom. Pretty much says it all. -
Arcayne
(cast a spell)
19:52, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
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- Keep per Alansohn's concerns. I think we just need to split it off further to
Category:Fictional sorcerers for characters who are only known for their use of
sorcery, not
wizardry, regardless of the similar terminology.
Lord Sesshomaru (
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20:41, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
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- You do realise wizadry is defined as "sorcery" according to your source.--
ZayZayEM (
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05:19, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
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- Merge per nom; I don't see any definition in
magician (fantasy) (to which
wizard redirects) that would distinguish wizards from magic users generally, unless it's meant as a catch-all dumping ground for any character that can't be fit into the more specific sub-character types of necromancer, shaman, etc. The Wiktionary entries for sorcery and wizardry define them both in terms of using magic, and treat them as synonyms, so I'm very confused by Lord Sesshormaru's post. That we can find sources (or the primary works themselves) using a term consistently to label characters as "wizards" or "sorcerors" doesn't necessarily mean anything if we can't determine that those sources are using those words to mean the same concretely definable, and distinguishable things.
Postdlf (
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00:53, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
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- Merge difference between wizardry, sorcery and witchcraft is hardly credible or reliable, especially when dealing witha fictional setting.--
ZayZayEM (
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05:19, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
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- Comment - I've already voted, but I wanted to say that I wished I had brought up ZayZayEm's point. Who the heck can actually (and non-speculatively) differentiate between different forms of magic? Finding a non-fictional source to explain the difference between folk magic, magick, witchcraft and veiled psionic abilities would be a test, to be sure. A better category would be something along the lines of "Users of Magic" (as per the subsection of the article on magic [fantasy]), and a separate category of practitioners of magic, which could be used to note the difference between those who have a talent for the Gift, and those who study it. -
Arcayne
(cast a spell)
15:25, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
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Category:Fictional lords and ladies
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- The result of the discussion was: merge.
Good Ol’factory
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04:52, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
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- Merge
Category:Fictional lords and ladies to
Category:Fictional nobility
Duplicative.
And has the additional problem of drawing any character which has self-professed as a "Lord" or "Lady", or has merely appended "Lord" or "Lady" to their name.
See also:
User:Jupiter Optimus Maximus, the user page of the user populating this cat. He makes it clear that he disregards Wikipedia policy on
WP:OR. -
jc37
13:25, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
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- Merge/Delete as nominator. -
jc37
13:25, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
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- Merge per nom. But
Lord Voldemort should not be included.
Johnbod (
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18:39, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
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- Merge nom has a good point.
Lord Sesshomaru (
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18:44, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
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- Merge per nom and Johnbod. As for taking our policy with a "pinch of salt", I would dare say that the size of that pinch could de-ice the roads of Buffalo, NY in high winter. He doesn't follow it. Period. -
Arcayne
(cast a spell)
19:43, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
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- Merge There is no reason to limit the category to lords and ladies, and thusly excluding all the dukes (including archdukes), earls, viscounts and all the other fictional equivalents thereof. Any issues regarding failures to observe or misinterpretations of Wikipedia
WP:OR policy should be dealt with promptly at
WP:ORN, the appropriate forum to address these issues.
Alansohn (
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19:58, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
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- Merge per nom and per Alansohn; it's pointless to separate "lord" and "lady" from other titles of notability, and it's senseless to categorize fictional characters by superficial name similarities where it doesn't necessarily indicate an underlying relationship (there are any number of supervillains calling themselves "Lord" this or "Lady" that who aren't actually fictional nobility).
Postdlf (
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01:06, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
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- Merge nominators rationale. Current category unclear.--
ZayZayEM (
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05:18, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
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- The result of the discussion was: delete.
Good Ol’factory
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04:50, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
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Category:Byronic heroes
None of the category members have sources establishing that they belong in such a category. This is simply
WP:OR.
See also:
User:Jupiter Optimus Maximus, the user page of the user populating this cat. He makes it clear that he disregards Wikipedia policy on
WP:OR. -
jc37
13:18, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
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- Delete - as nominator. -
jc37
13:18, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
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- Delete - as per nom. As well, there is no cited connection that the populated articles are in fact noted as being Byronic; indeed George Bush, my Aunt Carol and Bugs Bunny could all be considered Byronic heroes, according to the loose and very large choice of characteristics. And that - apart from the actual missing citation - is part of the problem. Who isn't a Byronic hero? -
Arcayne
(cast a spell)
15:25, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
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- Keep: And no I don't disregard
WP:NOR, I just take it with a pinch of salt. --
Jupiter Optimus Maximus (
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18:15, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
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- Delete - per nom, too vague a term, and none of the artricler included really meet the description.
Johnbod (
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18:41, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
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- Delete per
WP:ORIGINAL.
Lord Sesshomaru (
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18:44, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
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- Delete per nom.
≈ jossi ≈
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23:13, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
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Category:Northern Cape Province
Category:Eastern Cape Province
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- The result of the discussion was: delete.
Good Ol’factory
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04:48, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
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-
Category:Valley girl
While I understand what the category is attempting to group, the title is simply
WP:OR, due to synthesis, interpretation, etc.
If anything, this should be a list, so that the context can be noted, and sourced comparisons explained. -
jc37
12:52, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
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- Listify/Delete - as nominator. -
jc37
12:52, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
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- Delete - utterly destroy, pee on and scatter to the winds (but in a nice way). -
Arcayne
(cast a spell)
19:53, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
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- I'm thinking about creating
Category:California girl. Would that run into problems? (Btw, there are lots of well-known Valleys in California.)
Cgingold (
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21:30, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
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- Comment = I would oppose that, as well; who decides who is a girl and who is a woman, or a transgendered? Who do we call California girls, those who are born there, work there, lived there for a time, work there, appear in films about California? It's far too vague. -
Arcayne
(cast a spell)
21:41, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
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- Ooops... that was entirely tongue-in-cheek. Sorry 'bout that, Arcayne! Folks who are familiar with my penchant for sly humor probably chuckled (at least, I hope so...) -- but I clearly should have made it a bit more obvious that I was kidding!
Cgingold (
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07:24, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
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- Delete. Topics related to X. Appears to be a collection miscellaneous slightly related subjects. Noc lear qualification for what counts as inclusion.--
ZayZayEM (
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05:27, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
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- comment I wonder who reads the articles in the category. They might then know what the category is about.
Hmains (
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05:18, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
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Category:Palestinian terrorism
Category:Nationalist terrorism
- relisted at
Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2008 November 15#Category:Nationalist terrorism.
Angus McLellan
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11:04, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
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