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Speedy renaming has been implemented. See Wikipedia:Categories for deletion policies.
Some people think that CfD is getting too large and unwieldy to be practical. Therefore, this page lists some proposals to alleviate that.
This is a proposed policy. This is currently open for discussion and revision. Please explain your reasoning for supporting or opposing (or abstaining). It is hoped that this process will lead to consensus; if not, a vote can be called at some point in the future.
See Wikipedia talk:Categories for deletion#Restructuring for discussions leading to creation of this poll.
This poll ran for a week and received significant attention from people who frequent CfD. As expected, some proposals met consensual support, and some did not. I believe it would be appropriate to start implementation of those that have, and will take care of that shortly. Consider this a test run; we can always work out the kinks at a later stage. Bear in mind that this is not official policy, it is merely a procedure to alleviate the editors' work. If it doesn't, we should change it.
Proposal: a separate page 'CfR' should be created, that deals with requests for renaming categories. CfD should only deal with deleting categories.
Proposal: just as VfD uses subpages for each individual discussion, and transcludes them into the main page for each day, so should CfD. This does not apply to CfR.
Proposal: (
iff #1 passes and CfR is created) just as VfD uses subpages for each individual discussion, and transcludes them into the main page for each day, so should CfR. This does not apply to CfD.
Proposal: ( iff 2A fails) just as VfD uses subpages for each individual day, and transcludes them into the main page, so should CfD. Thus all CfD nominations created on the same day are listed together on one page.
Proposal: certain minor renaming issues for categories should not require voting, but can be done simply by being bold. Non-admins cannot rename cats, so they will still have to list them on CfD (or CfR) but they can be processed without delay, and removed once the process is complete.
Criteria for minor renaming are limited to: 1) typo fixes, 2) capitalization fixes, and 3) conversion to singular or plural.
The page Wikipedia:Category renaming has been created to explicitly state the policy (including the 'merging' clause since it can be inferred from the original, and nobody requested it for a revote). Note that criterion #3 did not meet sufficient consensus, and is instead listed on Wikipedia talk:Category renaming for further discussion.
By its current wording, there is no delay required for speedy renaming (just as there isn't for speedy deletion; indeed, that was the point of speedy in the first place). The poll below shows some consensus to support this; if it seems impractical in the next couple weeks, we should change that.
If a category qualifies for a 'speedy rename', and the name to which it should be renamed already exists, then the contents of the former should be added to the latter (a 'speedy merge'). Redirects from one cat to another do work (but if they are considered harmful, speedy deletion would be appropriate). This seems an obvious corrolary, comments welcome. If people are unsure, it can be added as proposal #7. Radiant _* 14:14, Apr 12, 2005 (UTC)
Proposal: ( iff #3 passes) if the consensus decides on a naming standard for categories (such as Philosophers from Greece vs. Greek philosophers), violation of that standard will be added to the speedy renaming criteria.
We need to be define where the consensus has to emerge. What counts as consensus?
Here is a place where I would be prepared to draw a dividing line. Suppose e.g. there is a query about "Lamborgian cities" vs "Cities in Lamborg" vs "Cities of Lamborg". On CfR/CfD, one such instance is converted from a minority form ("of Foo") to a majority form ("in Foo"). This decision should then be posted in the talk page for Category:Cities by country. Thereafter, if "Category:Blibbian cities" is created, it can be put up for, say, {{SpeedyCfR|Category:Cities in Blib|See Category talk:Cities by country; "Lamborgian cities"-> "Cities in Lamborg"}} (assuming {{SpeedyCfR|Target|Reason}} format). I think all such speedy CFRs should have a reference either to a naming convention or to a previous CFR decision, and the logical place to put the a reference-point to the latter is the parent category of the category where there has been a previous decision. VivaEmilyDavies 16:02, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Proposal: Handle renamings on talk pages of individual categories. Do not consolidate. Do not maintain central list. (Exception could be made if controversy arises, along the lines of
WP:RM.)
Proposal: ( iff 3 passes) Categories marked for speedy renaming should be put on a separate page (since arguably, anything listed here can be quickly taken out again, which is not the case for regular CfD). If a rename is contested or incorrectly put on speedy, it should be moved to the main CfD page.
![]() | This page is currently inactive and is retained for
historical reference. Either the page is no longer relevant or consensus on its purpose has become unclear. To revive discussion, seek broader input via a forum such as the village pump. |
Speedy renaming has been implemented. See Wikipedia:Categories for deletion policies.
Some people think that CfD is getting too large and unwieldy to be practical. Therefore, this page lists some proposals to alleviate that.
This is a proposed policy. This is currently open for discussion and revision. Please explain your reasoning for supporting or opposing (or abstaining). It is hoped that this process will lead to consensus; if not, a vote can be called at some point in the future.
See Wikipedia talk:Categories for deletion#Restructuring for discussions leading to creation of this poll.
This poll ran for a week and received significant attention from people who frequent CfD. As expected, some proposals met consensual support, and some did not. I believe it would be appropriate to start implementation of those that have, and will take care of that shortly. Consider this a test run; we can always work out the kinks at a later stage. Bear in mind that this is not official policy, it is merely a procedure to alleviate the editors' work. If it doesn't, we should change it.
Proposal: a separate page 'CfR' should be created, that deals with requests for renaming categories. CfD should only deal with deleting categories.
Proposal: just as VfD uses subpages for each individual discussion, and transcludes them into the main page for each day, so should CfD. This does not apply to CfR.
Proposal: (
iff #1 passes and CfR is created) just as VfD uses subpages for each individual discussion, and transcludes them into the main page for each day, so should CfR. This does not apply to CfD.
Proposal: ( iff 2A fails) just as VfD uses subpages for each individual day, and transcludes them into the main page, so should CfD. Thus all CfD nominations created on the same day are listed together on one page.
Proposal: certain minor renaming issues for categories should not require voting, but can be done simply by being bold. Non-admins cannot rename cats, so they will still have to list them on CfD (or CfR) but they can be processed without delay, and removed once the process is complete.
Criteria for minor renaming are limited to: 1) typo fixes, 2) capitalization fixes, and 3) conversion to singular or plural.
The page Wikipedia:Category renaming has been created to explicitly state the policy (including the 'merging' clause since it can be inferred from the original, and nobody requested it for a revote). Note that criterion #3 did not meet sufficient consensus, and is instead listed on Wikipedia talk:Category renaming for further discussion.
By its current wording, there is no delay required for speedy renaming (just as there isn't for speedy deletion; indeed, that was the point of speedy in the first place). The poll below shows some consensus to support this; if it seems impractical in the next couple weeks, we should change that.
If a category qualifies for a 'speedy rename', and the name to which it should be renamed already exists, then the contents of the former should be added to the latter (a 'speedy merge'). Redirects from one cat to another do work (but if they are considered harmful, speedy deletion would be appropriate). This seems an obvious corrolary, comments welcome. If people are unsure, it can be added as proposal #7. Radiant _* 14:14, Apr 12, 2005 (UTC)
Proposal: ( iff #3 passes) if the consensus decides on a naming standard for categories (such as Philosophers from Greece vs. Greek philosophers), violation of that standard will be added to the speedy renaming criteria.
We need to be define where the consensus has to emerge. What counts as consensus?
Here is a place where I would be prepared to draw a dividing line. Suppose e.g. there is a query about "Lamborgian cities" vs "Cities in Lamborg" vs "Cities of Lamborg". On CfR/CfD, one such instance is converted from a minority form ("of Foo") to a majority form ("in Foo"). This decision should then be posted in the talk page for Category:Cities by country. Thereafter, if "Category:Blibbian cities" is created, it can be put up for, say, {{SpeedyCfR|Category:Cities in Blib|See Category talk:Cities by country; "Lamborgian cities"-> "Cities in Lamborg"}} (assuming {{SpeedyCfR|Target|Reason}} format). I think all such speedy CFRs should have a reference either to a naming convention or to a previous CFR decision, and the logical place to put the a reference-point to the latter is the parent category of the category where there has been a previous decision. VivaEmilyDavies 16:02, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Proposal: Handle renamings on talk pages of individual categories. Do not consolidate. Do not maintain central list. (Exception could be made if controversy arises, along the lines of
WP:RM.)
Proposal: ( iff 3 passes) Categories marked for speedy renaming should be put on a separate page (since arguably, anything listed here can be quickly taken out again, which is not the case for regular CfD). If a rename is contested or incorrectly put on speedy, it should be moved to the main CfD page.