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  • An admin or template editor to make the GUI changes?
Is anybody going to take charge of this? It involoves the local en.Wiki interface. Don't expect the WMF to volunteer to do it. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 11:23, 25 August 2017 (UTC) reply
There'sNoTime: would you be comfortable doing this. Per my usual mantra, I have no idea how to make the tech side work. TonyBallioni ( talk) 18:08, 25 August 2017 (UTC) reply
@ TonyBallioni: what exactly needs doing? If someone could whip up (or point me to) some basic "change X to Y" bullet points I can get this done -- There'sNoTime ( to explain) 09:30, 26 August 2017 (UTC) reply
There'sNoTime, See Wikipedia:Autoconfirmed article creation trial#User interface messages. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 09:51, 26 August 2017 (UTC) reply
There'sNoTime, Kudpung would be much more familiar with this side of the project than I am. I only pinged you since I knew you had tech skillz and were helping maintain this checklist :) TonyBallioni ( talk) 21:41, 26 August 2017 (UTC) reply
These things need to be done otherwise the ACTRIAL mechanism wont work. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 05:11, 27 August 2017 (UTC) reply

Guidance

Mass-message senders

Admins or mass message senders who are involved in ACTRIAL such as @ Kudpung, TonyBallioni, and There'sNoTime: can feel free to execute an MM or something similar. Although technically an involved close, I think consensus is clear that a message on each admin's talk page is unnecessary and participants in the survey are of the mind that notifications on noticeboards such as COIN, SPI, NPP and AFC would be the way to go. DrStrauss talk 20:29, 24 August 2017 (UTC) reply

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

  • Admin mass-message
  • NPP mass-message
    • We need to decide whether to send these out as separate messages or in the standard newsletters.

Survey

Please add a numbered point under the heading you agree with.

Separate messages

  1. Support: the newsletters have already been designed as standalone messages per TonyBallioni's WP:ACTRIAL#Newsletters. Furthermore, ACTRIAL is such a big change that a separate message is warranted in my opinion in order to fully gain the attention of those with the technical capabilities who will be affected by this (admins and reviewers). I'm not familiar with the standard newsletter schedule but if we wait until the periodical mass message we might not give adequate warning for less active members to prepare. I would also suggest that the mass message sender who is appointed should send the messages at the fortnight-remaining mark to give ample time for both this discussion and user preparation. DrStrauss talk 15:24, 17 August 2017 (UTC) reply
    • I don't really care either way, but I also see the advantage of not double posting standalone messages on many people's talk pages. Kudpung made some points at WT:ACTRIAL at how makinh too big a deal could also cause issues. I also see your point above: the messages would be ready to go with a few tweaks if we decide to do it seperate. TonyBallioni ( talk) 23:44, 17 August 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Wikipedia seems to have recently gone mass-message crazy. Nobody on the maintenance side (admins, patrollers, reviewers) is going to be affected at all by the change. They will probably notice a change (if they even bother to notice these things) in the general profile of new articles, but that's all. Truly busy admins may notice that there are fewer CSD to delete.
I believe this should be done with a minimum of fuss, otherwise we'll be causing a mass panic and using valuable editing time by answering countless silly questions in response to the mailing. As far as workload goes, that would kind of defeat the object of the exercise. This is a policy change that could be sufficiently reported in Signpost if someone would like to draft an article here for us to check. (Signpost? What Signpost? - yet another sign of declining interest in running Wikipedia?)
A mass message to the short task force list at WP:NPPAFC might be appropriate, because they are concerned with on-going improvement to the concerned systems and also helping out at COIN and SPI on the renewed huge spate of sock farms and paid editing/extortion. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 01:36, 18 August 2017 (UTC) reply
  • I feel that a mass-message to the NPP-AFC group and something like the top 100(??) NPReviewers will be optimum.I don't find much (or any) justification in mass-messaging sysops about the change.Also, teahouse-hosts and people who contribute actively at the help-desk ought to know about the change. Godric on Leave ( talk) 04:58, 18 August 2017 (UTC) reply

Section in periodicals

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Update pages

  1. Wikipedia:User access levels  Done I have avoided time-specific phrases to minimise confusion. ( diff) DrStrauss talk 15:02, 17 August 2017 (UTC) reply
  2. Special:ListGroupRights
    @ Kudpung, TonyBallioni, and There'sNoTime: hmph. I can't do this one - are special pages sysop-protected? DrStrauss talk 13:26, 29 August 2017 (UTC) reply
    This page is based on the site configuration. The list of rights cannot be edited on wiki. The description of a right can be by changing (or creating) pages in the MediaWiki namespace. —  JJMC89 ( T· C) 17:33, 29 August 2017 (UTC) reply
    Does this still need to be done? TonyBallioni ( talk) 17:06, 1 September 2017 (UTC) reply
    Yep. DrStrauss talk 18:07, 2 September 2017 (UTC) reply
    Xaosflux, is this something you could do. The exact process here is a bit over my head technically as to what is needed. TonyBallioni ( talk) 18:25, 5 September 2017 (UTC) reply
    Sorry, a bit lost. This page will automatically change - what needs to be done? — xaosflux Talk 18:37, 5 September 2017 (UTC) reply
    If you say it will automatically change, that should be good. I was simply pinging because DrStrauss said it still needed to be updated. Thanks for the clarification. TonyBallioni ( talk) 18:40, 5 September 2017 (UTC) reply
    It needs to be done, but gets done by the config update. The only thing we would do on wiki is if we wanted to change the localization name of one of the groups (which I don't see above) - for example we changed "patroller" to "new page reviewer" before. — xaosflux Talk 21:10, 5 September 2017 (UTC) reply
    @ Xaosflux: I'm assuming editing the config pages requires administrator privileges? DrStrauss talk 19:45, 11 September 2017 (UTC) reply
    Yes, please note I have very limited capabilities right now due to Hurricane Irma impact in my area. — xaosflux Talk 00:49, 12 September 2017 (UTC) reply
    @ Xaosflux: oh dear, sorry to hear that, hope it all goes okay - I wasn't passively prodding you if that's what you mean. DrStrauss talk 14:58, 12 September 2017 (UTC) reply
  3. Wikipedia:How to run an edit-a-thon  Done I have avoided time-specific phrases to minimise confusion. ( diff) DrStrauss talk 15:11, 17 August 2017 (UTC)Changes self-reverted upon advice. Godric on Leave ( talk) 05:03, 18 August 2017 (UTC) reply
  4. Updates to Article wizard
Retrieved from " https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Wikipedia:Autoconfirmed_article_creation_trial/Checklist&oldid=859892178"
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

GUI

  • An admin or template editor to make the GUI changes?
Is anybody going to take charge of this? It involoves the local en.Wiki interface. Don't expect the WMF to volunteer to do it. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 11:23, 25 August 2017 (UTC) reply
There'sNoTime: would you be comfortable doing this. Per my usual mantra, I have no idea how to make the tech side work. TonyBallioni ( talk) 18:08, 25 August 2017 (UTC) reply
@ TonyBallioni: what exactly needs doing? If someone could whip up (or point me to) some basic "change X to Y" bullet points I can get this done -- There'sNoTime ( to explain) 09:30, 26 August 2017 (UTC) reply
There'sNoTime, See Wikipedia:Autoconfirmed article creation trial#User interface messages. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 09:51, 26 August 2017 (UTC) reply
There'sNoTime, Kudpung would be much more familiar with this side of the project than I am. I only pinged you since I knew you had tech skillz and were helping maintain this checklist :) TonyBallioni ( talk) 21:41, 26 August 2017 (UTC) reply
These things need to be done otherwise the ACTRIAL mechanism wont work. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 05:11, 27 August 2017 (UTC) reply

Guidance

Mass-message senders

Admins or mass message senders who are involved in ACTRIAL such as @ Kudpung, TonyBallioni, and There'sNoTime: can feel free to execute an MM or something similar. Although technically an involved close, I think consensus is clear that a message on each admin's talk page is unnecessary and participants in the survey are of the mind that notifications on noticeboards such as COIN, SPI, NPP and AFC would be the way to go. DrStrauss talk 20:29, 24 August 2017 (UTC) reply

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

  • Admin mass-message
  • NPP mass-message
    • We need to decide whether to send these out as separate messages or in the standard newsletters.

Survey

Please add a numbered point under the heading you agree with.

Separate messages

  1. Support: the newsletters have already been designed as standalone messages per TonyBallioni's WP:ACTRIAL#Newsletters. Furthermore, ACTRIAL is such a big change that a separate message is warranted in my opinion in order to fully gain the attention of those with the technical capabilities who will be affected by this (admins and reviewers). I'm not familiar with the standard newsletter schedule but if we wait until the periodical mass message we might not give adequate warning for less active members to prepare. I would also suggest that the mass message sender who is appointed should send the messages at the fortnight-remaining mark to give ample time for both this discussion and user preparation. DrStrauss talk 15:24, 17 August 2017 (UTC) reply
    • I don't really care either way, but I also see the advantage of not double posting standalone messages on many people's talk pages. Kudpung made some points at WT:ACTRIAL at how makinh too big a deal could also cause issues. I also see your point above: the messages would be ready to go with a few tweaks if we decide to do it seperate. TonyBallioni ( talk) 23:44, 17 August 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Wikipedia seems to have recently gone mass-message crazy. Nobody on the maintenance side (admins, patrollers, reviewers) is going to be affected at all by the change. They will probably notice a change (if they even bother to notice these things) in the general profile of new articles, but that's all. Truly busy admins may notice that there are fewer CSD to delete.
I believe this should be done with a minimum of fuss, otherwise we'll be causing a mass panic and using valuable editing time by answering countless silly questions in response to the mailing. As far as workload goes, that would kind of defeat the object of the exercise. This is a policy change that could be sufficiently reported in Signpost if someone would like to draft an article here for us to check. (Signpost? What Signpost? - yet another sign of declining interest in running Wikipedia?)
A mass message to the short task force list at WP:NPPAFC might be appropriate, because they are concerned with on-going improvement to the concerned systems and also helping out at COIN and SPI on the renewed huge spate of sock farms and paid editing/extortion. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 01:36, 18 August 2017 (UTC) reply
  • I feel that a mass-message to the NPP-AFC group and something like the top 100(??) NPReviewers will be optimum.I don't find much (or any) justification in mass-messaging sysops about the change.Also, teahouse-hosts and people who contribute actively at the help-desk ought to know about the change. Godric on Leave ( talk) 04:58, 18 August 2017 (UTC) reply

Section in periodicals

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Update pages

  1. Wikipedia:User access levels  Done I have avoided time-specific phrases to minimise confusion. ( diff) DrStrauss talk 15:02, 17 August 2017 (UTC) reply
  2. Special:ListGroupRights
    @ Kudpung, TonyBallioni, and There'sNoTime: hmph. I can't do this one - are special pages sysop-protected? DrStrauss talk 13:26, 29 August 2017 (UTC) reply
    This page is based on the site configuration. The list of rights cannot be edited on wiki. The description of a right can be by changing (or creating) pages in the MediaWiki namespace. —  JJMC89 ( T· C) 17:33, 29 August 2017 (UTC) reply
    Does this still need to be done? TonyBallioni ( talk) 17:06, 1 September 2017 (UTC) reply
    Yep. DrStrauss talk 18:07, 2 September 2017 (UTC) reply
    Xaosflux, is this something you could do. The exact process here is a bit over my head technically as to what is needed. TonyBallioni ( talk) 18:25, 5 September 2017 (UTC) reply
    Sorry, a bit lost. This page will automatically change - what needs to be done? — xaosflux Talk 18:37, 5 September 2017 (UTC) reply
    If you say it will automatically change, that should be good. I was simply pinging because DrStrauss said it still needed to be updated. Thanks for the clarification. TonyBallioni ( talk) 18:40, 5 September 2017 (UTC) reply
    It needs to be done, but gets done by the config update. The only thing we would do on wiki is if we wanted to change the localization name of one of the groups (which I don't see above) - for example we changed "patroller" to "new page reviewer" before. — xaosflux Talk 21:10, 5 September 2017 (UTC) reply
    @ Xaosflux: I'm assuming editing the config pages requires administrator privileges? DrStrauss talk 19:45, 11 September 2017 (UTC) reply
    Yes, please note I have very limited capabilities right now due to Hurricane Irma impact in my area. — xaosflux Talk 00:49, 12 September 2017 (UTC) reply
    @ Xaosflux: oh dear, sorry to hear that, hope it all goes okay - I wasn't passively prodding you if that's what you mean. DrStrauss talk 14:58, 12 September 2017 (UTC) reply
  3. Wikipedia:How to run an edit-a-thon  Done I have avoided time-specific phrases to minimise confusion. ( diff) DrStrauss talk 15:11, 17 August 2017 (UTC)Changes self-reverted upon advice. Godric on Leave ( talk) 05:03, 18 August 2017 (UTC) reply
  4. Updates to Article wizard
Retrieved from " https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Wikipedia:Autoconfirmed_article_creation_trial/Checklist&oldid=859892178"

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