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The result was keep as withdrawn. Yes, I'm technically WP:INVOLVED here, but as I've been requested by the nominator to close this as withdrawn and nobody's advocating for deletion, I think a little breaking the rules is justifiable. Hog Farm Talk 15:07, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
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fails WP:GNG and WP:RS, in addition to article, may be moved to Arcadia, New York Snowc776 ( talk) 15:43, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. Snowc776 ( talk) 15:43, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
- Additional Details: This article was previously created as Zurich, New York, as far as I know. No article currently exists for Zurich, so possible redirect to there? And Zurich NY is an existing city, and has a post office in Arcadia, which is nearby.
-
Snowc776 (
talk)
15:50, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
- Comment: Looks like WP wont allow me to edit the comment with this one, so I have to leave it as is.
Snowc776 (
talk)
15:53, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
- @
Snowc776: - What are you seeing that gives that impression? All the way back to
this original content in 2008 this article has been about the bog, it's never had a name change, and
Zurich, New York doesn't appear to have ever existed.
Hog Farm
Talk
14:59, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
- Oh sorry about that @ Hog Farm I just wanted to see if this could be merged into Arcadia because Zurich is an existing village in NY. I have been to NY before and this wouldve been merged. I get your point about the bog not related to the city itself. So, can you close this and I will remove the AFD notice? Thanks Snowc776 ( talk) 15:02, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
- @
Snowc776: - What are you seeing that gives that impression? All the way back to
this original content in 2008 this article has been about the bog, it's never had a name change, and
Zurich, New York doesn't appear to have ever existed.
Hog Farm
Talk
14:59, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
- Comment: Looks like WP wont allow me to edit the comment with this one, so I have to leave it as is.
Snowc776 (
talk)
15:53, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Geography and New York. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 17:05, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
- Keep As a federally designated
National Natural Landmark, I would think notability is likely. Sources that provide coverage to corroborate this include
[1]
[2]
[3]
[4]
[5]
[6]
[7]
[8]
[9]. An alternative could be creation of the
Bergen Swamp Preservation Society and merge there along with the organization's other conservation properties which include
Bergen-Byron Swamp, another one of the
28 National Natural Landmarks in New York, all of which have articles or are appropriately covered in another article.
Reywas92
Talk
17:47, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
- Comment So, this means natural landmarks doesn't need
WP:GNG or
Wikipedia:Verifiability?
Snowc776 (
talk)
17:49, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
- I'm sorry???? No, where did I say that?????? I see you've only been here for a week but AFD regulars may know I'm one of the more vehement editors saying that everything must pass GNG and there is no automatic notability. I said notability is likely for NNLs, not that they don't need to meet GNG. But then I provided 9 links that provide coverage indicating this location does pass GNG and verifiability. If you disagree that these are substantive enough I presented an WP:ATD because I think NNLs should still have coverage even if not warranting a stand-alone article. I can create clippings for the newspapers.com results if you can't access them. Reywas92 Talk 02:56, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
- Comment So, this means natural landmarks doesn't need
WP:GNG or
Wikipedia:Verifiability?
Snowc776 (
talk)
17:49, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
- Keep per the sources found by Reywas, which indicate enough to meet
WP:GNG here.
Hog Farm
Talk
14:57, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
- Keep Agree with @ Hog Farm. Thanks for the information @ Reywas92 Snowc776 ( talk) 14:59, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
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The result was keep as withdrawn. Yes, I'm technically WP:INVOLVED here, but as I've been requested by the nominator to close this as withdrawn and nobody's advocating for deletion, I think a little breaking the rules is justifiable. Hog Farm Talk 15:07, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Zurich Bog ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
fails WP:GNG and WP:RS, in addition to article, may be moved to Arcadia, New York Snowc776 ( talk) 15:43, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. Snowc776 ( talk) 15:43, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
- Additional Details: This article was previously created as Zurich, New York, as far as I know. No article currently exists for Zurich, so possible redirect to there? And Zurich NY is an existing city, and has a post office in Arcadia, which is nearby.
-
Snowc776 (
talk)
15:50, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
- Comment: Looks like WP wont allow me to edit the comment with this one, so I have to leave it as is.
Snowc776 (
talk)
15:53, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
- @
Snowc776: - What are you seeing that gives that impression? All the way back to
this original content in 2008 this article has been about the bog, it's never had a name change, and
Zurich, New York doesn't appear to have ever existed.
Hog Farm
Talk
14:59, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
- Oh sorry about that @ Hog Farm I just wanted to see if this could be merged into Arcadia because Zurich is an existing village in NY. I have been to NY before and this wouldve been merged. I get your point about the bog not related to the city itself. So, can you close this and I will remove the AFD notice? Thanks Snowc776 ( talk) 15:02, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
- @
Snowc776: - What are you seeing that gives that impression? All the way back to
this original content in 2008 this article has been about the bog, it's never had a name change, and
Zurich, New York doesn't appear to have ever existed.
Hog Farm
Talk
14:59, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
- Comment: Looks like WP wont allow me to edit the comment with this one, so I have to leave it as is.
Snowc776 (
talk)
15:53, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Geography and New York. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 17:05, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
- Keep As a federally designated
National Natural Landmark, I would think notability is likely. Sources that provide coverage to corroborate this include
[1]
[2]
[3]
[4]
[5]
[6]
[7]
[8]
[9]. An alternative could be creation of the
Bergen Swamp Preservation Society and merge there along with the organization's other conservation properties which include
Bergen-Byron Swamp, another one of the
28 National Natural Landmarks in New York, all of which have articles or are appropriately covered in another article.
Reywas92
Talk
17:47, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
- Comment So, this means natural landmarks doesn't need
WP:GNG or
Wikipedia:Verifiability?
Snowc776 (
talk)
17:49, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
- I'm sorry???? No, where did I say that?????? I see you've only been here for a week but AFD regulars may know I'm one of the more vehement editors saying that everything must pass GNG and there is no automatic notability. I said notability is likely for NNLs, not that they don't need to meet GNG. But then I provided 9 links that provide coverage indicating this location does pass GNG and verifiability. If you disagree that these are substantive enough I presented an WP:ATD because I think NNLs should still have coverage even if not warranting a stand-alone article. I can create clippings for the newspapers.com results if you can't access them. Reywas92 Talk 02:56, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
- Comment So, this means natural landmarks doesn't need
WP:GNG or
Wikipedia:Verifiability?
Snowc776 (
talk)
17:49, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
- Keep per the sources found by Reywas, which indicate enough to meet
WP:GNG here.
Hog Farm
Talk
14:57, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
- Keep Agree with @ Hog Farm. Thanks for the information @ Reywas92 Snowc776 ( talk) 14:59, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
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