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The result was redirect to Toronto District School Board. ✗ plicit 23:37, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
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Non-notable school (one of many middle schools in one of many public school districts in one of many countries). No specific claims of notability. DMacks ( talk) 20:37, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
- It's more or less standard practice at AfD to redirect lower US or Canadian schools with no showing of notability to the article on their administrative authority. It's such a common practice that many editors will simply do it BOLDly and only go to AfD if they encounter resistance. I did it with a US middle school on PROD yesterday. Just an FYI. 69.92.163.38 ( talk) 21:25, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Education, Schools, and Canada. Shellwood ( talk) 20:55, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
- Redirect to Toronto District School Board.-- Gen. Quon [Talk] 21:09, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
- Redirect to Toronto District School Board as an ATD per SCHOOLOUTCOMES. 69.92.163.38 ( talk) 12:49, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
- Keep- This school is notable:
- Notability in Science: In 2002, Zion placed second in the Exploravision competition, with their theoretical innovation on the prosthetic arm.
- Musical Notability: The orchestra has participated and won first place in the
Kiwanis music festival several times in the past few years. In 2009, Zion's senior stage band won gold at MusicFest Canada and was invited to play in the national competition in May. In 2012, Zion's Junior stage band won gold at Musicfest Canada in the national competition. In 2013, Zion's Senior stage band will win another gold at the upcoming Musicfest Canada. On April 11, 2014, the Senior Orchestra received gold at the Ontario Strings Association competition.([[Zion Heights Middle School#:~:text=and Persian.-,Academics,-[edit]|Academics]])
PaulGamerBoy360 (
talk)
23:28, 4 May 2023 (UTC)
- Accomplishments do not speak to notability. Coverage of them in reliable independent secondary sources may contribute to notability, but alone do not show notability either. Your subjective real world definition of "notability" isn't relevant in this discussion. Wikipedia's somewhat objective definition of
"notability" is what matters here.
69.92.163.38 (
talk)
10:24, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
- The notable alumini all have pages on wikipedia, and i just cited & added a link to some of the acedemics scores. PaulGamerBoy360 ( talk) 15:11, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
- Also this PaulGamerBoy360 ( talk) 15:12, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
- Accomplishments do not speak to notability. Coverage of them in reliable independent secondary sources may contribute to notability, but alone do not show notability either. Your subjective real world definition of "notability" isn't relevant in this discussion. Wikipedia's somewhat objective definition of
"notability" is what matters here.
69.92.163.38 (
talk)
10:24, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
- Redirect - to Toronto District School Board. Article fails WP:NORG/ WP:NSCHOOL, and redirecting it is consistent with WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES since this is a middle school without a clear claim to notability. That they have extracurricular achievements is not unique to this or any middle school; most middle schools can claim some kind of comparable competition win in one area or another at various points in their history, that's a routine aspect of a middle school and does not contribute to notability in any way. - Aoidh ( talk) 00:39, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
- Redirect to Toronto District School Board. Pharaoh of the Wizards ( talk) 03:27, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was redirect to Toronto District School Board. ✗ plicit 23:37, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
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- Zion Heights Middle School ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log | edits since nomination)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
Non-notable school (one of many middle schools in one of many public school districts in one of many countries). No specific claims of notability. DMacks ( talk) 20:37, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
- It's more or less standard practice at AfD to redirect lower US or Canadian schools with no showing of notability to the article on their administrative authority. It's such a common practice that many editors will simply do it BOLDly and only go to AfD if they encounter resistance. I did it with a US middle school on PROD yesterday. Just an FYI. 69.92.163.38 ( talk) 21:25, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Education, Schools, and Canada. Shellwood ( talk) 20:55, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
- Redirect to Toronto District School Board.-- Gen. Quon [Talk] 21:09, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
- Redirect to Toronto District School Board as an ATD per SCHOOLOUTCOMES. 69.92.163.38 ( talk) 12:49, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
- Keep- This school is notable:
- Notability in Science: In 2002, Zion placed second in the Exploravision competition, with their theoretical innovation on the prosthetic arm.
- Musical Notability: The orchestra has participated and won first place in the
Kiwanis music festival several times in the past few years. In 2009, Zion's senior stage band won gold at MusicFest Canada and was invited to play in the national competition in May. In 2012, Zion's Junior stage band won gold at Musicfest Canada in the national competition. In 2013, Zion's Senior stage band will win another gold at the upcoming Musicfest Canada. On April 11, 2014, the Senior Orchestra received gold at the Ontario Strings Association competition.([[Zion Heights Middle School#:~:text=and Persian.-,Academics,-[edit]|Academics]])
PaulGamerBoy360 (
talk)
23:28, 4 May 2023 (UTC)
- Accomplishments do not speak to notability. Coverage of them in reliable independent secondary sources may contribute to notability, but alone do not show notability either. Your subjective real world definition of "notability" isn't relevant in this discussion. Wikipedia's somewhat objective definition of
"notability" is what matters here.
69.92.163.38 (
talk)
10:24, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
- The notable alumini all have pages on wikipedia, and i just cited & added a link to some of the acedemics scores. PaulGamerBoy360 ( talk) 15:11, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
- Also this PaulGamerBoy360 ( talk) 15:12, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
- Accomplishments do not speak to notability. Coverage of them in reliable independent secondary sources may contribute to notability, but alone do not show notability either. Your subjective real world definition of "notability" isn't relevant in this discussion. Wikipedia's somewhat objective definition of
"notability" is what matters here.
69.92.163.38 (
talk)
10:24, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
- Redirect - to Toronto District School Board. Article fails WP:NORG/ WP:NSCHOOL, and redirecting it is consistent with WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES since this is a middle school without a clear claim to notability. That they have extracurricular achievements is not unique to this or any middle school; most middle schools can claim some kind of comparable competition win in one area or another at various points in their history, that's a routine aspect of a middle school and does not contribute to notability in any way. - Aoidh ( talk) 00:39, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
- Redirect to Toronto District School Board. Pharaoh of the Wizards ( talk) 03:27, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.