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The result was speedy keep. As mentioned, the nominator's rationaile is explicitly mentioned in the notability guideline as establishing notability, so this is put down as a SK. The Bushranger One ping only 21:26, 18 November 2017 (UTC)
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Article about an electrical engineer whose only claim to fame appears to be becoming a Fellow of the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers. According to the IEEE website's Fellows Directory that makes him one of 9,909 such, which hardly seems notable. Emeraude ( talk) 12:19, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
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- Speedy keep. Fellow of IEEE, the very thing the nomination complains about, is explicitly given in WP:PROF#C3 as an example of an honor that would make someone notable by that criterion. If you don't like the criterion, lobby to change it, but with the criterion as it is, there is no valid nomination. WP:SK #3 calls for speedy keep when "The nomination is so erroneous that it indicates the nominator has not even read the article in question"; here we have something different, a nomination so erroneous that it indicates the nominator has not even read the notability guideline, but I think the reasoning is the same. — David Eppstein ( talk) 19:08, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
- Not at all. To suggest I have "not even read the article in question" is total nonsense and, to be frank, rather insulting. It's a single sentence, which I edited/tidied before nominating, so your speedy argument is wrong. I accept your point about IEEE though.
Emeraude (
talk) 10:45, 12 November 2017 (UTC)
- Read more carefully. I did not suggest you had not read the article; I suggested that you had not read the notability guideline. — David Eppstein ( talk) 20:01, 12 November 2017 (UTC)
- Not at all. To suggest I have "not even read the article in question" is total nonsense and, to be frank, rather insulting. It's a single sentence, which I edited/tidied before nominating, so your speedy argument is wrong. I accept your point about IEEE though.
Emeraude (
talk) 10:45, 12 November 2017 (UTC)
- Speedy keep Prototypical pass of WP:PROF#C3. (Also 6000+ GS citations and an h-index of 37.) XOR'easter ( talk) 21:57, 12 November 2017 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Not an obvious speedy keep to me.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 09:44, 18 November 2017 (UTC)
Relisting comment: Not an obvious speedy keep to me.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 09:44, 18 November 2017 (UTC)
- Speedy Keep The nominator admits the subject is a fellow of IEEE, which clearly passes PROF. Chris Troutman ( talk) 20:19, 18 November 2017 (UTC)
- Keep fellow of IEEE, which is the electrical engineer association. NPrOF. L3X1 (distænt write) 21:16, 18 November 2017 (UTC)
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The result was speedy keep. As mentioned, the nominator's rationaile is explicitly mentioned in the notability guideline as establishing notability, so this is put down as a SK. The Bushranger One ping only 21:26, 18 November 2017 (UTC)
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Article about an electrical engineer whose only claim to fame appears to be becoming a Fellow of the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers. According to the IEEE website's Fellows Directory that makes him one of 9,909 such, which hardly seems notable. Emeraude ( talk) 12:19, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
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- Speedy keep. Fellow of IEEE, the very thing the nomination complains about, is explicitly given in WP:PROF#C3 as an example of an honor that would make someone notable by that criterion. If you don't like the criterion, lobby to change it, but with the criterion as it is, there is no valid nomination. WP:SK #3 calls for speedy keep when "The nomination is so erroneous that it indicates the nominator has not even read the article in question"; here we have something different, a nomination so erroneous that it indicates the nominator has not even read the notability guideline, but I think the reasoning is the same. — David Eppstein ( talk) 19:08, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
- Not at all. To suggest I have "not even read the article in question" is total nonsense and, to be frank, rather insulting. It's a single sentence, which I edited/tidied before nominating, so your speedy argument is wrong. I accept your point about IEEE though.
Emeraude (
talk) 10:45, 12 November 2017 (UTC)
- Read more carefully. I did not suggest you had not read the article; I suggested that you had not read the notability guideline. — David Eppstein ( talk) 20:01, 12 November 2017 (UTC)
- Not at all. To suggest I have "not even read the article in question" is total nonsense and, to be frank, rather insulting. It's a single sentence, which I edited/tidied before nominating, so your speedy argument is wrong. I accept your point about IEEE though.
Emeraude (
talk) 10:45, 12 November 2017 (UTC)
- Speedy keep Prototypical pass of WP:PROF#C3. (Also 6000+ GS citations and an h-index of 37.) XOR'easter ( talk) 21:57, 12 November 2017 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Not an obvious speedy keep to me.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 09:44, 18 November 2017 (UTC)
Relisting comment: Not an obvious speedy keep to me.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 09:44, 18 November 2017 (UTC)
- Speedy Keep The nominator admits the subject is a fellow of IEEE, which clearly passes PROF. Chris Troutman ( talk) 20:19, 18 November 2017 (UTC)
- Keep fellow of IEEE, which is the electrical engineer association. NPrOF. L3X1 (distænt write) 21:16, 18 November 2017 (UTC)
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