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The result was keep. ( non-admin closure) Arun Kumar SINGH (Talk) 04:46, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
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Subject appears to have been in several films, but does not appear to have won any awards for her film performances. Her husband appears to be notable, but notability is not inherited. Unless she won some awards for her movie performances (I could find no evidence in English, at any rate— japanese sources would be welcome), I don't think we can justify retaining the article on her. Being an actress by itself does not equate to notability. KDS4444 ( talk) 06:01, 15 November 2016 (UTC)
- Keep As I've said on the talk page of the article, there are no English biographies on her (as far as I can tell), therefore you won't find much information on her in English, which is the whole reason of why I translated and created the article: to make knowledge about her available in a language other than just Japanese. "Being an actress by itself does not equate to notability." Again, does being an actress who had a major role in 4 of the most popular Japanese movies of the 1930s not count for anything anymore? There are articles about actors on here, also Japanese and from the 1920s-1940s, that are 2 or 3 sentences long where the subjects are far less notable than her, yet those pages are up and running without anyone ever making a complaint. What is the problem? And re: awards, two things that I could find real quick: Tonari no Yae-chan, a movie in which she plays the lead title role, won second place at the 1934 Kinema Junpo awards, meaning it was voted by the most influental film magazine and critics of the time as the second best movie of the year, as part of Kinema Jumpo's annual "Best Ten" list and therefore was also awarded as such at the Kinema Junpo awards. Info here and here (in the relevant line it also adds how the movie made her a star). A Ball at the Anjo House, in which she plays a main character, the older sister in a movie about a family of four, won the award for best film (aka film of the year, as stated on the Japanese Wiki page of the movie) at the 1948 Kinema Junpos. The movie is a highly acclaimed work that has been placed on best of lists, and likely won many more awards in its time, but finding awards data for a lot of these old movies isn't easy/possible since not a lot of these things are online. Therefore this should show that yes, she has had notable roles in notable movies that were awarded, and just because records of these awards are scarce online doesn't mean that none were awarded. Sage X ( talk) 08:17, 15 November 2016 (UTC)
- Keep Aizome was a prominent actress in the 1930s and was subject to considerable press at the time. She also has significant entries in the major film biographical encyclopedias, such as those published by Kinema Junpo (she gets a considerably long entry, for instance, in the KineJun actress encyclopedia from 1980). Passes both WP:NACTOR and WP:GNG. Michitaro ( talk) 01:32, 16 November 2016 (UTC)
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- Keep per both comments above. She is definitely notable. In spades. ··· 日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 18:52, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
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The result was keep. ( non-admin closure) Arun Kumar SINGH (Talk) 04:46, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
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Subject appears to have been in several films, but does not appear to have won any awards for her film performances. Her husband appears to be notable, but notability is not inherited. Unless she won some awards for her movie performances (I could find no evidence in English, at any rate— japanese sources would be welcome), I don't think we can justify retaining the article on her. Being an actress by itself does not equate to notability. KDS4444 ( talk) 06:01, 15 November 2016 (UTC)
- Keep As I've said on the talk page of the article, there are no English biographies on her (as far as I can tell), therefore you won't find much information on her in English, which is the whole reason of why I translated and created the article: to make knowledge about her available in a language other than just Japanese. "Being an actress by itself does not equate to notability." Again, does being an actress who had a major role in 4 of the most popular Japanese movies of the 1930s not count for anything anymore? There are articles about actors on here, also Japanese and from the 1920s-1940s, that are 2 or 3 sentences long where the subjects are far less notable than her, yet those pages are up and running without anyone ever making a complaint. What is the problem? And re: awards, two things that I could find real quick: Tonari no Yae-chan, a movie in which she plays the lead title role, won second place at the 1934 Kinema Junpo awards, meaning it was voted by the most influental film magazine and critics of the time as the second best movie of the year, as part of Kinema Jumpo's annual "Best Ten" list and therefore was also awarded as such at the Kinema Junpo awards. Info here and here (in the relevant line it also adds how the movie made her a star). A Ball at the Anjo House, in which she plays a main character, the older sister in a movie about a family of four, won the award for best film (aka film of the year, as stated on the Japanese Wiki page of the movie) at the 1948 Kinema Junpos. The movie is a highly acclaimed work that has been placed on best of lists, and likely won many more awards in its time, but finding awards data for a lot of these old movies isn't easy/possible since not a lot of these things are online. Therefore this should show that yes, she has had notable roles in notable movies that were awarded, and just because records of these awards are scarce online doesn't mean that none were awarded. Sage X ( talk) 08:17, 15 November 2016 (UTC)
- Keep Aizome was a prominent actress in the 1930s and was subject to considerable press at the time. She also has significant entries in the major film biographical encyclopedias, such as those published by Kinema Junpo (she gets a considerably long entry, for instance, in the KineJun actress encyclopedia from 1980). Passes both WP:NACTOR and WP:GNG. Michitaro ( talk) 01:32, 16 November 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions. Michitaro ( talk) 01:33, 16 November 2016 (UTC)
- Keep per both comments above. She is definitely notable. In spades. ··· 日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 18:52, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
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