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The result was keep. So Why 08:43, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
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Had nominated for CSD but was declined. Subject does not appear to meet the English language notability criteria. KDS4444 ( talk) 06:33, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
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- Keep - I am not sure what are being referred to as "English language notability criteria". As WP:GNG states, "Sources do not have to be available online or written in English." There is no requirement that subjects need to be notable in the English-language world to appear in the English language Wikipedia. As for Abe, he has been on television in Japan for over two decades, most recently as a news and entertainment reporter. His is a face most Japanese know. Here are just a few articles about him or that feature him: [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], [8], [9], [10], [11], [12], etc. He actually has appeared a lot in the news in the last few days because his daughter was selected as Miss Universe Japan. Michitaro ( talk) 08:32, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
- Your first example appears to be a very spammy endorsement of some book by him -- at any rate, it does not appear to represent independent coverage; 2 seems to be run of the mill coverage of him being in a traffic accident; 3 is some sort of gossipy capsule item with only a brief mention; 4 is another fluff item about him and his daughter appearing in some sort of minor fashion show; 5 is another short piece critiquing his appearance and "blunder" (if I understand correctly) on some Fuji TV variety program; 6 is another minor piece of him simply having reported on a VR project of some kind -- and so on. I'm not going to go through them all, but I'm struck by how many of them are just -- forgive me -- crap. Yet taken as a whole it does seem as if he's a known TV face, if not much of an actual serious reporter, in Japan. And of course, 'seriousness' is not a criterion here. I'm not going to !vote at this time but he probably passes the bar. Indeed, the article creator states on his user page that "I mainly create articles of Japanese tarentos," which are "celebrities who regularly appear on mass media in Japan, especially television." Which is what Abe is, for better or worse. Shawn in Montreal ( talk) 14:35, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
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- They are not great (I've been busy and I got them after just a few minutes of searching), but I wouldn't call them crap. They are pretty normal for entertainment coverage in Japan. What is not in question is that all the sources are from major news sources, and thus reliable. They are independent of the individual. Their number indicates that Japanese major media consider him notable. Not all the articles are significant, but I believe these--and whatever else is out there--are sufficient to produce more than a stub article (per WP:N). Especially if one includes other criteria such as WP:CELEBRITY, particularly criterion 1, there is sufficient case for notability. Michitaro ( talk) 00:54, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
- Yes, taken as a whole, I do agree the coverage amounts to a pass of WP:ENTERTAINER. Keep. Shawn in Montreal ( talk) 14:22, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
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The result was keep. So Why 08:43, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
- Yuji Abe ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
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Had nominated for CSD but was declined. Subject does not appear to meet the English language notability criteria. KDS4444 ( talk) 06:33, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
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- Keep - I am not sure what are being referred to as "English language notability criteria". As WP:GNG states, "Sources do not have to be available online or written in English." There is no requirement that subjects need to be notable in the English-language world to appear in the English language Wikipedia. As for Abe, he has been on television in Japan for over two decades, most recently as a news and entertainment reporter. His is a face most Japanese know. Here are just a few articles about him or that feature him: [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], [8], [9], [10], [11], [12], etc. He actually has appeared a lot in the news in the last few days because his daughter was selected as Miss Universe Japan. Michitaro ( talk) 08:32, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
- Your first example appears to be a very spammy endorsement of some book by him -- at any rate, it does not appear to represent independent coverage; 2 seems to be run of the mill coverage of him being in a traffic accident; 3 is some sort of gossipy capsule item with only a brief mention; 4 is another fluff item about him and his daughter appearing in some sort of minor fashion show; 5 is another short piece critiquing his appearance and "blunder" (if I understand correctly) on some Fuji TV variety program; 6 is another minor piece of him simply having reported on a VR project of some kind -- and so on. I'm not going to go through them all, but I'm struck by how many of them are just -- forgive me -- crap. Yet taken as a whole it does seem as if he's a known TV face, if not much of an actual serious reporter, in Japan. And of course, 'seriousness' is not a criterion here. I'm not going to !vote at this time but he probably passes the bar. Indeed, the article creator states on his user page that "I mainly create articles of Japanese tarentos," which are "celebrities who regularly appear on mass media in Japan, especially television." Which is what Abe is, for better or worse. Shawn in Montreal ( talk) 14:35, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
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Shawn in Montreal (
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14:31, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
- They are not great (I've been busy and I got them after just a few minutes of searching), but I wouldn't call them crap. They are pretty normal for entertainment coverage in Japan. What is not in question is that all the sources are from major news sources, and thus reliable. They are independent of the individual. Their number indicates that Japanese major media consider him notable. Not all the articles are significant, but I believe these--and whatever else is out there--are sufficient to produce more than a stub article (per WP:N). Especially if one includes other criteria such as WP:CELEBRITY, particularly criterion 1, there is sufficient case for notability. Michitaro ( talk) 00:54, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
- Yes, taken as a whole, I do agree the coverage amounts to a pass of WP:ENTERTAINER. Keep. Shawn in Montreal ( talk) 14:22, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
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