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I found this one via it's unusual name. I've seen how a lot of stubs like this for unincorporated communities in California were deleted, and I'm thinking this one is non-notable. From what I can gather in the brief sources listed, there was a post office here from 1900 to 1901, a rather short period of time. GNIS calls it a "populated place" and cites a 1919 map. If it was truly an unincorporated community, then I don't think it would be legally recognized, so it would have to go through the second part of WP:GEOLAND, which requires a GNG pass. I'm not finding anything in a Google search or a Google books search. Interestingly, a 1919 history of the county this place was in doesn't seem to mention it. The county history is over 800 pages long, and is about a decade and a half after Yolo's "heyday", so if Yolo really was a significant place at any point in time, it would surely be mentioned. I can find a 1894 topo map online [1], but this doesn't have anything marked for this town, although the map does predate the post office by six years. The GNIS statement suggests that the relevant map was "Calhoun East", I've tracked down a 1953 topo for that map here, it's too grainy for me to easily read it, but it's clear that there's nothing of significance where Yolo should be. A modern Google Maps query is giving me a single house with some barns/outbuildings [2]. Interestingly, an old listing of place names in the county calls it "Yolo Post Office". That source also gives the detail that the post office was established in part of a store. Keep in mind, this post office was only active for about a year. GNIS also has a separate listing for "Yolo Post Office (historical)". So it looks like GNIS entered the post office, which is clearly marked on GNIS as a post office, and then didn't realize that a marking on another map was also the post office, and gave it another entry, assuming it was a populated place. No indication that this was ever more than an isolated store/farm, and with the post office lasting only a year, I see no indication that this was ever a populated place, or that it will ever be notable. Hog Farm Bacon 21:16, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Hog Farm Bacon 21:16, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Missouri-related deletion discussions. Hog Farm Bacon 21:16, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
- delete Looking at a 1950s topo, the only buildings there were a school and (apparently) farm buildings on opposite sides of the road; I would guess that they are the same buildings seen now, except that the school has been replaced by a larger barn. At any rate, this is an extremely rural area, and everything indicates that this indeed was nothing more than a short-lived 4th class post office. Mangoe ( talk) 21:34, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
- Keep. I've added a bit to the short stub. Many of these old communities or "country stores" served rural areas of Missouri (and other states) and were important to the regions they served before the mobility of modern transportation. They are a part of rural history and should be included. Vsmith ( talk) 23:14, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
- Delete A one-year post office is not the same as a community, which is not automatically a notable community. No newspapers.com results, no coverage of any significance. Rural history of "people went to this store to collect their mail" does not warrant an article and it is spurious original research to claim this was the name of a town – even more the BS that it "is" a community without evidence, thanks to mass-production. Reywas92 Talk 00:22, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
- Keep This is a valid stub. There wouldn't be much coverage to be found in print because Yolo admittedly always was a small settlement.
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- It was never even a settlement. It was an isolated store with a post office in it briefly. One building does not a settlement make. And more than just being a settlement in needed for WP:GEOLAND. Hog Farm Bacon 16:27, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
- Delete No evidence of a community and nothing else to indicate basic notability. Glendoremus ( talk) 20:54, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
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I found this one via it's unusual name. I've seen how a lot of stubs like this for unincorporated communities in California were deleted, and I'm thinking this one is non-notable. From what I can gather in the brief sources listed, there was a post office here from 1900 to 1901, a rather short period of time. GNIS calls it a "populated place" and cites a 1919 map. If it was truly an unincorporated community, then I don't think it would be legally recognized, so it would have to go through the second part of WP:GEOLAND, which requires a GNG pass. I'm not finding anything in a Google search or a Google books search. Interestingly, a 1919 history of the county this place was in doesn't seem to mention it. The county history is over 800 pages long, and is about a decade and a half after Yolo's "heyday", so if Yolo really was a significant place at any point in time, it would surely be mentioned. I can find a 1894 topo map online [1], but this doesn't have anything marked for this town, although the map does predate the post office by six years. The GNIS statement suggests that the relevant map was "Calhoun East", I've tracked down a 1953 topo for that map here, it's too grainy for me to easily read it, but it's clear that there's nothing of significance where Yolo should be. A modern Google Maps query is giving me a single house with some barns/outbuildings [2]. Interestingly, an old listing of place names in the county calls it "Yolo Post Office". That source also gives the detail that the post office was established in part of a store. Keep in mind, this post office was only active for about a year. GNIS also has a separate listing for "Yolo Post Office (historical)". So it looks like GNIS entered the post office, which is clearly marked on GNIS as a post office, and then didn't realize that a marking on another map was also the post office, and gave it another entry, assuming it was a populated place. No indication that this was ever more than an isolated store/farm, and with the post office lasting only a year, I see no indication that this was ever a populated place, or that it will ever be notable. Hog Farm Bacon 21:16, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Hog Farm Bacon 21:16, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Missouri-related deletion discussions. Hog Farm Bacon 21:16, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
- delete Looking at a 1950s topo, the only buildings there were a school and (apparently) farm buildings on opposite sides of the road; I would guess that they are the same buildings seen now, except that the school has been replaced by a larger barn. At any rate, this is an extremely rural area, and everything indicates that this indeed was nothing more than a short-lived 4th class post office. Mangoe ( talk) 21:34, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
- Keep. I've added a bit to the short stub. Many of these old communities or "country stores" served rural areas of Missouri (and other states) and were important to the regions they served before the mobility of modern transportation. They are a part of rural history and should be included. Vsmith ( talk) 23:14, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
- Delete A one-year post office is not the same as a community, which is not automatically a notable community. No newspapers.com results, no coverage of any significance. Rural history of "people went to this store to collect their mail" does not warrant an article and it is spurious original research to claim this was the name of a town – even more the BS that it "is" a community without evidence, thanks to mass-production. Reywas92 Talk 00:22, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
- Keep This is a valid stub. There wouldn't be much coverage to be found in print because Yolo admittedly always was a small settlement.
72.49.7.25 (
talk)
16:19, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
- It was never even a settlement. It was an isolated store with a post office in it briefly. One building does not a settlement make. And more than just being a settlement in needed for WP:GEOLAND. Hog Farm Bacon 16:27, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
- Delete No evidence of a community and nothing else to indicate basic notability. Glendoremus ( talk) 20:54, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
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