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I have changed my recommendation to Keep, since O'Reilly published an entire book about this framework (which Google Books didn't bring up for some reason).
Enterprisey (
talk!)
05:11, 27 September 2018 (UTC)reply
Comment nom - was
WP:BEFORE done? Any quick search finds more than the book that's in the EXT?!
WP:NUKEANDPAVE clearly doesn't apply.
WP:AFDNOTCLEANUP applies as article is primary source mess, but not commercial spam or anything (i.e. "NOTMANUAL is irrelevant, PRODUCT is NCORP and this is software not a company or product and nom knows it is against consensus at other AfDs" ), but
WP:NEXIST is policy - we don't delete just because sources aren't in the article. In this case, they're even in the article! (footnotes are all primary/non-third party but that's irrelevant for N). just reading the article it has the O'Reilly book. Further, nom's AfDed two of the three Haskell web frameworks, removed content from several Haskell articles and is against consensus at AfD on the Haskell
xmonad today. Widefox;
talk03:05, 27 September 2018 (UTC)reply
(Yes, I fixed my comment before anyone else commented as it was incorrect, which is allowed.) Did you do BEFORE?, and if you start deleting and blanking lots of Haskell articles in the same day, just when your attempt at deleting Haskell xmonad is failing, don't you think someone will notice a pattern? Widefox;
talk03:44, 27 September 2018 (UTC)reply
Yes, I did. Did you read the nom? I said the only source I found was the book, which I found independently when I was checking for sources, since I didn't check the external links section. –
FenixFeather(talk)(Contribs)04:07, 27 September 2018 (UTC)reply
Keep The O'Reilly book and the chapter in
Seven Web Frameworks in Seven Weeks: Adventures in Better Web Apps, which compares and contrasts web frameworks, and the other sources mentioned above are enough to show that the topic has in depth reliable sourcing. The article itself is meticulously cited to mostly primary sources and could use some secondary sourcing and cleanup of excessive detail. But I don't see any problems that could not be fixed with ordinary editing. A notable topic and an article with
WP:SURMOUNTABLE problems suggests a keep. --{{u|
Mark viking}} {
Talk}22:25, 27 September 2018 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
I have changed my recommendation to Keep, since O'Reilly published an entire book about this framework (which Google Books didn't bring up for some reason).
Enterprisey (
talk!)
05:11, 27 September 2018 (UTC)reply
Comment nom - was
WP:BEFORE done? Any quick search finds more than the book that's in the EXT?!
WP:NUKEANDPAVE clearly doesn't apply.
WP:AFDNOTCLEANUP applies as article is primary source mess, but not commercial spam or anything (i.e. "NOTMANUAL is irrelevant, PRODUCT is NCORP and this is software not a company or product and nom knows it is against consensus at other AfDs" ), but
WP:NEXIST is policy - we don't delete just because sources aren't in the article. In this case, they're even in the article! (footnotes are all primary/non-third party but that's irrelevant for N). just reading the article it has the O'Reilly book. Further, nom's AfDed two of the three Haskell web frameworks, removed content from several Haskell articles and is against consensus at AfD on the Haskell
xmonad today. Widefox;
talk03:05, 27 September 2018 (UTC)reply
(Yes, I fixed my comment before anyone else commented as it was incorrect, which is allowed.) Did you do BEFORE?, and if you start deleting and blanking lots of Haskell articles in the same day, just when your attempt at deleting Haskell xmonad is failing, don't you think someone will notice a pattern? Widefox;
talk03:44, 27 September 2018 (UTC)reply
Yes, I did. Did you read the nom? I said the only source I found was the book, which I found independently when I was checking for sources, since I didn't check the external links section. –
FenixFeather(talk)(Contribs)04:07, 27 September 2018 (UTC)reply
Keep The O'Reilly book and the chapter in
Seven Web Frameworks in Seven Weeks: Adventures in Better Web Apps, which compares and contrasts web frameworks, and the other sources mentioned above are enough to show that the topic has in depth reliable sourcing. The article itself is meticulously cited to mostly primary sources and could use some secondary sourcing and cleanup of excessive detail. But I don't see any problems that could not be fixed with ordinary editing. A notable topic and an article with
WP:SURMOUNTABLE problems suggests a keep. --{{u|
Mark viking}} {
Talk}22:25, 27 September 2018 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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