The result was delete. Secret account 15:28, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
On notability grounds - it seems this is a very small local cluster of groups that teach internal Chinese movements/meditation. Nothing to indicate notability - I read advertisement thinly disguised as an article. Peter Rehse ( talk) 15:09, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
— JackRyan3095 ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
In terms of notability, this entry meets the “Significant Coverage” criteria: what has been written so far does address the topic directly and in detail. The entry is “Reliable” in that independently published secondary “Sources” are cited that are also “independent of the subject”. This entry does not include “advertising, press releases, or autobiographies”.
This entry is "fair and balanced" and no more serves as a promotion or advertisement than do the entries for Tai-chi Chuan, Yi-chuan and Qi-gong. And so, this entry complies with Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy.
I’ve read and re-read the Wikipedia entries for Tai-chi Chuan, Yi-chuan, and QiGong and this Wujifa entry is consistent with those entries albeit, a little on the “lite” side. If you really understand Tai-chi and QiGong history and practice, then you would realize that the Tai-chi and QiGong entries collectively represent a populist misunderstanding even though these entries meet Wikipedia’s criteria and persist as notable entries.
I find no such populist misunderstanding in anything that has been written so far in this entry. My only concern is that the authors have not sufficiently elucidated the details of this internal art. My suggestion would be to review this entry again in a year after they have time to further develop this entry.
And so for these reasons, I vote to KEEP this entry because it DOES MEET the standards established by Wikipedia. User: TooTallMike —Preceding undated comment added 19:09, 12 November 2013 (UTC) — TooTallMike ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
The older references that I remember seeing from the old GeoCities and other Bulletin Boards are lost to history. However, I was able to find some more recent entries that I think fit the criteria of not being "produced by the article's subject or someone affiliated with it."
As you know, many martial arts originated in and were handed down through the oral tradition. Of course this always creates a problem for us academic types who base authority on written documentation, on independent coverage.
Speaking of “independent coverage”, I would bet that many contributors to Wikipedia's Tai-chi, Ba-gua, Yi-chuan entries ARE practitioners of those arts who are citing other practitioner authors! And I would bet that many of these contributors have skin in the game too! So I think that the martial arts, yoga, qigong, these kinds of entries are a little different animal than say, the entries on Ford’s Model T, Daniel Tosh, Miley Cyrus or even current boxers or MMA fighters.
And if I understand the guidelines correctly, Wiki pages are not the beginning and end all. Lacking citations is not a reason alone to delete a page. These authors have citations. Any page is a work in progress. People will continue to find citations and further citations will be created over time.
http://www.amazon.com/Princeton-Dictionary-Buddhism-Robert-Buswell/dp/0691157863/ The Princeton Dictionary of Buddhism Princeton University Press, Nov 4, 2013 By Robert E. Buswell Jr., Donald S. Lopez Jr. page 1126, Chinese Cross-References "Wujifa 無記法. See AVYAKRTADHARMA"
<My note: Look Inside and you will find 'Wujifa'. When you search for AVYAKRTADHARMA, you can find this term in a translation of the "Abhidharma Samuccaya: The Compendium of the Higher Teaching (Philosophy)" http://lirs.ru/lib/Abhidharmasamuccaya,Asanga,Rahula,1971,Boin-Webb,2001.pdf where AVYAKRTADHARMA translates as "the suchness of neutral things". You can also find this term in "A Defense of Yogācāra Buddhism" by Alex Wayman. Philosophy East and West, Vol. 46, No. 4 (Oct., 1996), pp. 447-476. Published by University of Hawaii Press. On page 463 he says, "Thus, the indeterminate natures (avyakrtadharma)..." So it looks like Wujifa has its philosophic roots in Yogacara Buddhism. As an aside, maybe the Wujifa page could be linked to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yogacara. The historical philosophic link is certainly there.>
http://www.goldenlotus.org/Images/homePage/Prog.GuideNov12-April13sm.pdf Song of the Morning: A Yoga Retreat of Excellence November 2012 - April 2013 Program Guide Yoga for Facial Glow, Inner Beauty and More with Ramesh Narula GSME, MBA Jan. 18-20 Enjoy an integrated practice based upon Yoga Asanas, Patanjali Yoga Sutras, Marma Points of Ayurveda, A Course in Miracles, Creativity Techniques, and Wujifa. Learn about creating your own daily practice, uniquely tailored to your body type, age, flexibility and inclination. Fee: $100
http://www.eawfest.com/products.html Change your Posture, Change your Life. Qi Gong Dan Hoffman is a student of Somatic Psychology, which is the way in which our minds and bodies interface to create our experience in the world. He has been studying Qigong for nearly 7 years in the Wujifa system, and teaching for 4. He is a firm believer in embodied practices as a gateway to a more free and authentic life - as the body becomes more free through awareness and diligent practice, so too do other aspects of the individual. He is working on his Masters and Ph. D. degrees at Santa Barbara Graduate Institute, and continues to travel a path of embodied self-discovery at the School of Cultivation and Practice in Plymouth, MI.
http://eric-taichi.blogspot.com/2012/09/what-i-read-tai-chi-and-qigong.html Blogs Here are the blogs I regularly read, a brief description, and what I get from it. Internal Gong Fu, by Mike Buhr In this blog, you can read about Mike's journey as he learns about the whole-body techniques of wujifa. He is very open about his successes and failures in applying the techniques he is learning. He writes a lot, typically about 5 or 6 new articles each month.
http://jianghu.burningpearl.com/?cat=44&paged=3 Friday, December 11th, 2009 Tabbycat says taiji is pure energy, get the body out of the way. Rick at Wujifa speaks of fascia, and connection. Scott talks about the big muscles of the back.
http://www.ttem.org/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=5lemuhcja2llues8885k143ls5&topic=2822.0 Wujifa youtube exercise on relaxing the shoulder May 1, 2013 Nice example of using new ideas to get the *feel* for internal aspects. Balancing innovation with being true to the arts is always a challenge .. but the opposite way of "photocopying a photocopy" out of fear kills arts fast. www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAMPyA5FGEQ
http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/how-to-learn-zhan-zhuang-from-a-book/ How to Learn Zhan Zhuang From a Book Comment by wujimon // Jan 20, 2010 For people interested in more material, I would HIGHLY recommend checking out: Zhan Zhuang Alignment | Wujifa. Great article discussing structure and alignment! User: TooTallMike —Preceding undated comment added 21:52, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
Delete No evidence of significant coverage, the sources listed above are all clearly interested parties, other than possibly a definition, sounds like a little OR too. Nothing notable about subject of article. - - MrBill3 ( talk) 11:52, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
The Phoenix Tastes a Lot Like Chicken. ASIN: B00DSOJWDG (A book about Taoism and Meditation)
Secrets of the Pelvis for Martial Arts: A Practical Guide for Improving Your Wujifa, Taiji, Xingyi, Bagua and Everyday Life. ASIN: B00C14WO5W (A book about physiology)
The Princeton Dictionary of Buddhism ISBN 10: 0691157863 ("the most comprehensive and authoritative dictionary of Buddhism ever produced in English")
By the way when you look at the original Yi-Chuan entry, there was only a story with no references! http://en.m.wikipedia.org/?title=Yiquan&oldid=11302713
Contributors built on this story over the years and when you look at the current Yi-Chuan entry, there is still only one book referenced which isn't even a book about the Yi-Chuan of the founder, Wang Xiang-zai! The "About the Author" section of this reference states, "Master Lam's life-long study has brought together many strands of China's martial arts heritage. These influences are reflected in his own style of Da Cheng Chuan, presented in this book." And on page 158, Master Lam states how he changed everything, "using the forms I already knew but with a new power".
So it seems to me that this reference is not a reliable reference for Yi-Chuan since it sounds like Master Lam adapted his understanding of Yi-Chuan into his own system. And so the current Yichuan page is actually an unreferenced advertisement for the Yi-Chuan schools listed! And yet, I see no one calling to delete this page.
Therefore, I really don't understand what the difficulty is with citations concerning this wujifa page. The wujifa page has much better documentation than the original or current Yi-Chuan page. Is there a particular reason why what has been provided is less notable than what was and is provided at the Yi-chuan page?
Also, from what I'm learning, Wujifa is much broader in scope and much different than Neijia and so would not be a good fit on the Neijia page. Wujifa has a philosophic and meditative element that can directly link to Yogacara Buddhism. Wujifa references cutting edge science and talks about developing fascial connections and developing mind-body connectedness. It looks like Wujifa can be practiced for a variety of purposes. It can be practiced as an internal martial art but it does not claim to be a martial art. The way I understand it is that Neijia could be explored as one of the many paths of Wujifa but Wujifa is not Neijia. User: TooTallMike
— Mkriegel ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
"Wujifa (Chinese: 無極法) is a practice which often takes the form of a martial art, qigong and/or meditation. Wujifa encompasses the principles of internal (nèijiā) movement and connection." to: "Wujifa (Chinese: 無極法) is a movement modality which utilizes various methods, both physical and psychological, to encourage the use of the whole body in movement. The art of Wujifa encompasses principles which are found in many ( nèijia) arts."
I believe it was poor editing on my part and should be deemed rectified by making those changes to the article and include more depth, explanation of principles/practice, and historical context. It is a work in progress and I am confident of its notability as described in the notability section of the WP:GNG. Trevor Caruso ( talk) 8:57, 15 November 2013 (PST)
— SteveMayeda ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. The preceding unsigned comment was added at 17:27, 15 November 2013 (UTC).
The Phoenix Tastes a Lot Like Chicken. ASIN: B00DSOJWDG
Secrets of the Pelvis for Martial Arts: A Practical Guide for Improving Your Wujifa, Taiji, Xingyi, Bagua and Everyday Life. ASIN: B00C14WO5W
The Princeton Dictionary of Buddhism ISBN 10: 0691157863
Would Peter Rehse, Papaursa, MrBill3, Mdtemp, and Edison please explain why your personal interpretation of the notability guidelines would consider three books which cover Wujifa, as not meeting notability guidelines? Do you consider books to not be notable?
Since we are discussing notability, it would be helpful to see specific examples of WP articles which you interpret as examples that meet the WP:N notability criteria. Simply repeating the mantra of "does not meet notability" is not contributing to "a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached." User: TooTallMike —Preceding undated comment added 21:09, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
I am a Tai-chi guy who is trying to figure out this whole "internal strength" thing. I actually read the entire "Secrets of the Pelvis" book. Let me share with you what I found.
Wujifa is mentioned repeatedly throughout the book as is Tai-chi Chuan, Xing-yi Chuan, and Bagua Chuan as well as other western therapeutic modalities.
The book includes original Chinese excerpts AND translations as well as many excerpts from American authors. This book reads like an in-depth investigation into how the pelvis (aka dan-tian, hara) should function as it is described by both American and Chinese martial artists. Please consider the following:
In the Preface section, "In Taijiquan, one of the higher level kinesthetic skillsets is called "peng". In Wujifa, this quality is called "connection"; whole-body connection."
In the Introduction, "The orientation of this book is primarily based on my training in Wujifa."
Chapter 3 (pg 9) does include copied text from the wujifa home page since this is a brief chapter referencing the primary source of wujifa information online. (Papaursa referred to this section.)
Chapter 5 (pg 13) mentions wujifa in reference to abdominal breathing.
Chapter 8 (pg 22) says, "In Wujifa, training focuses on developing fascial connectedness."
And you'll find more references on pages: 49, 51, 52, 54, 57, 67, 83, 83, 99.
From what I've read, the fundamental practice of Wujifa is zhan zhuang. The author says on page 67 "when I began...practicing Wujifa zhan zhuang." and on page 84, "When I practice my Wujifa zhan zhuang".
If this book is not notable, then maybe a search on Wujifa should get a redirect to the zhan zhuang article?? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhan_zhuang
Given the scope and content of this book, would you consider this book to be notable? — Preceding unsigned comment added by TooTallMike ( talk • contribs) 18:07, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
Look at Hunyuan. The term Hunyuan is a central concept in Daoist philosophy. Hunyuan Tai-chi is the name of a practice based on Hunyuan philosophy. It is also the name of a Chen Style form: Xinyi Hun Yuan broadsword. It looks like Wujifa is a similar beast. The term Wujifa is a central concept in Buddhist/Chinese philosophy. Wujifa is the name of a practice based on Wujifa philosophy.
There are other examples, the term Zen (and philosophy) is different from the practice of Zen whose main practice is sitting meditation. The term Tai-chi (and philosophy) is different from the practice of Tai-chi whose main practice is forms. You get the idea. I don't mean to muddy the waters but it seems that the answer depends on how you look at it.
One thing that is clear is that the primary practice of wujifa is their form of zhan zhuang. I think this is similar to how Xing-yi has their form of stance practice, and Yi-chuan has their form of zhan zhuang, etc... Wujifa has a form of zhan zhuang practice as well. TooTallMike —Preceding undated comment added 20:33, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
The result was delete. Secret account 15:28, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
On notability grounds - it seems this is a very small local cluster of groups that teach internal Chinese movements/meditation. Nothing to indicate notability - I read advertisement thinly disguised as an article. Peter Rehse ( talk) 15:09, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
— JackRyan3095 ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
In terms of notability, this entry meets the “Significant Coverage” criteria: what has been written so far does address the topic directly and in detail. The entry is “Reliable” in that independently published secondary “Sources” are cited that are also “independent of the subject”. This entry does not include “advertising, press releases, or autobiographies”.
This entry is "fair and balanced" and no more serves as a promotion or advertisement than do the entries for Tai-chi Chuan, Yi-chuan and Qi-gong. And so, this entry complies with Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy.
I’ve read and re-read the Wikipedia entries for Tai-chi Chuan, Yi-chuan, and QiGong and this Wujifa entry is consistent with those entries albeit, a little on the “lite” side. If you really understand Tai-chi and QiGong history and practice, then you would realize that the Tai-chi and QiGong entries collectively represent a populist misunderstanding even though these entries meet Wikipedia’s criteria and persist as notable entries.
I find no such populist misunderstanding in anything that has been written so far in this entry. My only concern is that the authors have not sufficiently elucidated the details of this internal art. My suggestion would be to review this entry again in a year after they have time to further develop this entry.
And so for these reasons, I vote to KEEP this entry because it DOES MEET the standards established by Wikipedia. User: TooTallMike —Preceding undated comment added 19:09, 12 November 2013 (UTC) — TooTallMike ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
The older references that I remember seeing from the old GeoCities and other Bulletin Boards are lost to history. However, I was able to find some more recent entries that I think fit the criteria of not being "produced by the article's subject or someone affiliated with it."
As you know, many martial arts originated in and were handed down through the oral tradition. Of course this always creates a problem for us academic types who base authority on written documentation, on independent coverage.
Speaking of “independent coverage”, I would bet that many contributors to Wikipedia's Tai-chi, Ba-gua, Yi-chuan entries ARE practitioners of those arts who are citing other practitioner authors! And I would bet that many of these contributors have skin in the game too! So I think that the martial arts, yoga, qigong, these kinds of entries are a little different animal than say, the entries on Ford’s Model T, Daniel Tosh, Miley Cyrus or even current boxers or MMA fighters.
And if I understand the guidelines correctly, Wiki pages are not the beginning and end all. Lacking citations is not a reason alone to delete a page. These authors have citations. Any page is a work in progress. People will continue to find citations and further citations will be created over time.
http://www.amazon.com/Princeton-Dictionary-Buddhism-Robert-Buswell/dp/0691157863/ The Princeton Dictionary of Buddhism Princeton University Press, Nov 4, 2013 By Robert E. Buswell Jr., Donald S. Lopez Jr. page 1126, Chinese Cross-References "Wujifa 無記法. See AVYAKRTADHARMA"
<My note: Look Inside and you will find 'Wujifa'. When you search for AVYAKRTADHARMA, you can find this term in a translation of the "Abhidharma Samuccaya: The Compendium of the Higher Teaching (Philosophy)" http://lirs.ru/lib/Abhidharmasamuccaya,Asanga,Rahula,1971,Boin-Webb,2001.pdf where AVYAKRTADHARMA translates as "the suchness of neutral things". You can also find this term in "A Defense of Yogācāra Buddhism" by Alex Wayman. Philosophy East and West, Vol. 46, No. 4 (Oct., 1996), pp. 447-476. Published by University of Hawaii Press. On page 463 he says, "Thus, the indeterminate natures (avyakrtadharma)..." So it looks like Wujifa has its philosophic roots in Yogacara Buddhism. As an aside, maybe the Wujifa page could be linked to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yogacara. The historical philosophic link is certainly there.>
http://www.goldenlotus.org/Images/homePage/Prog.GuideNov12-April13sm.pdf Song of the Morning: A Yoga Retreat of Excellence November 2012 - April 2013 Program Guide Yoga for Facial Glow, Inner Beauty and More with Ramesh Narula GSME, MBA Jan. 18-20 Enjoy an integrated practice based upon Yoga Asanas, Patanjali Yoga Sutras, Marma Points of Ayurveda, A Course in Miracles, Creativity Techniques, and Wujifa. Learn about creating your own daily practice, uniquely tailored to your body type, age, flexibility and inclination. Fee: $100
http://www.eawfest.com/products.html Change your Posture, Change your Life. Qi Gong Dan Hoffman is a student of Somatic Psychology, which is the way in which our minds and bodies interface to create our experience in the world. He has been studying Qigong for nearly 7 years in the Wujifa system, and teaching for 4. He is a firm believer in embodied practices as a gateway to a more free and authentic life - as the body becomes more free through awareness and diligent practice, so too do other aspects of the individual. He is working on his Masters and Ph. D. degrees at Santa Barbara Graduate Institute, and continues to travel a path of embodied self-discovery at the School of Cultivation and Practice in Plymouth, MI.
http://eric-taichi.blogspot.com/2012/09/what-i-read-tai-chi-and-qigong.html Blogs Here are the blogs I regularly read, a brief description, and what I get from it. Internal Gong Fu, by Mike Buhr In this blog, you can read about Mike's journey as he learns about the whole-body techniques of wujifa. He is very open about his successes and failures in applying the techniques he is learning. He writes a lot, typically about 5 or 6 new articles each month.
http://jianghu.burningpearl.com/?cat=44&paged=3 Friday, December 11th, 2009 Tabbycat says taiji is pure energy, get the body out of the way. Rick at Wujifa speaks of fascia, and connection. Scott talks about the big muscles of the back.
http://www.ttem.org/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=5lemuhcja2llues8885k143ls5&topic=2822.0 Wujifa youtube exercise on relaxing the shoulder May 1, 2013 Nice example of using new ideas to get the *feel* for internal aspects. Balancing innovation with being true to the arts is always a challenge .. but the opposite way of "photocopying a photocopy" out of fear kills arts fast. www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAMPyA5FGEQ
http://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/how-to-learn-zhan-zhuang-from-a-book/ How to Learn Zhan Zhuang From a Book Comment by wujimon // Jan 20, 2010 For people interested in more material, I would HIGHLY recommend checking out: Zhan Zhuang Alignment | Wujifa. Great article discussing structure and alignment! User: TooTallMike —Preceding undated comment added 21:52, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
Delete No evidence of significant coverage, the sources listed above are all clearly interested parties, other than possibly a definition, sounds like a little OR too. Nothing notable about subject of article. - - MrBill3 ( talk) 11:52, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
The Phoenix Tastes a Lot Like Chicken. ASIN: B00DSOJWDG (A book about Taoism and Meditation)
Secrets of the Pelvis for Martial Arts: A Practical Guide for Improving Your Wujifa, Taiji, Xingyi, Bagua and Everyday Life. ASIN: B00C14WO5W (A book about physiology)
The Princeton Dictionary of Buddhism ISBN 10: 0691157863 ("the most comprehensive and authoritative dictionary of Buddhism ever produced in English")
By the way when you look at the original Yi-Chuan entry, there was only a story with no references! http://en.m.wikipedia.org/?title=Yiquan&oldid=11302713
Contributors built on this story over the years and when you look at the current Yi-Chuan entry, there is still only one book referenced which isn't even a book about the Yi-Chuan of the founder, Wang Xiang-zai! The "About the Author" section of this reference states, "Master Lam's life-long study has brought together many strands of China's martial arts heritage. These influences are reflected in his own style of Da Cheng Chuan, presented in this book." And on page 158, Master Lam states how he changed everything, "using the forms I already knew but with a new power".
So it seems to me that this reference is not a reliable reference for Yi-Chuan since it sounds like Master Lam adapted his understanding of Yi-Chuan into his own system. And so the current Yichuan page is actually an unreferenced advertisement for the Yi-Chuan schools listed! And yet, I see no one calling to delete this page.
Therefore, I really don't understand what the difficulty is with citations concerning this wujifa page. The wujifa page has much better documentation than the original or current Yi-Chuan page. Is there a particular reason why what has been provided is less notable than what was and is provided at the Yi-chuan page?
Also, from what I'm learning, Wujifa is much broader in scope and much different than Neijia and so would not be a good fit on the Neijia page. Wujifa has a philosophic and meditative element that can directly link to Yogacara Buddhism. Wujifa references cutting edge science and talks about developing fascial connections and developing mind-body connectedness. It looks like Wujifa can be practiced for a variety of purposes. It can be practiced as an internal martial art but it does not claim to be a martial art. The way I understand it is that Neijia could be explored as one of the many paths of Wujifa but Wujifa is not Neijia. User: TooTallMike
— Mkriegel ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
"Wujifa (Chinese: 無極法) is a practice which often takes the form of a martial art, qigong and/or meditation. Wujifa encompasses the principles of internal (nèijiā) movement and connection." to: "Wujifa (Chinese: 無極法) is a movement modality which utilizes various methods, both physical and psychological, to encourage the use of the whole body in movement. The art of Wujifa encompasses principles which are found in many ( nèijia) arts."
I believe it was poor editing on my part and should be deemed rectified by making those changes to the article and include more depth, explanation of principles/practice, and historical context. It is a work in progress and I am confident of its notability as described in the notability section of the WP:GNG. Trevor Caruso ( talk) 8:57, 15 November 2013 (PST)
— SteveMayeda ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. The preceding unsigned comment was added at 17:27, 15 November 2013 (UTC).
The Phoenix Tastes a Lot Like Chicken. ASIN: B00DSOJWDG
Secrets of the Pelvis for Martial Arts: A Practical Guide for Improving Your Wujifa, Taiji, Xingyi, Bagua and Everyday Life. ASIN: B00C14WO5W
The Princeton Dictionary of Buddhism ISBN 10: 0691157863
Would Peter Rehse, Papaursa, MrBill3, Mdtemp, and Edison please explain why your personal interpretation of the notability guidelines would consider three books which cover Wujifa, as not meeting notability guidelines? Do you consider books to not be notable?
Since we are discussing notability, it would be helpful to see specific examples of WP articles which you interpret as examples that meet the WP:N notability criteria. Simply repeating the mantra of "does not meet notability" is not contributing to "a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached." User: TooTallMike —Preceding undated comment added 21:09, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
I am a Tai-chi guy who is trying to figure out this whole "internal strength" thing. I actually read the entire "Secrets of the Pelvis" book. Let me share with you what I found.
Wujifa is mentioned repeatedly throughout the book as is Tai-chi Chuan, Xing-yi Chuan, and Bagua Chuan as well as other western therapeutic modalities.
The book includes original Chinese excerpts AND translations as well as many excerpts from American authors. This book reads like an in-depth investigation into how the pelvis (aka dan-tian, hara) should function as it is described by both American and Chinese martial artists. Please consider the following:
In the Preface section, "In Taijiquan, one of the higher level kinesthetic skillsets is called "peng". In Wujifa, this quality is called "connection"; whole-body connection."
In the Introduction, "The orientation of this book is primarily based on my training in Wujifa."
Chapter 3 (pg 9) does include copied text from the wujifa home page since this is a brief chapter referencing the primary source of wujifa information online. (Papaursa referred to this section.)
Chapter 5 (pg 13) mentions wujifa in reference to abdominal breathing.
Chapter 8 (pg 22) says, "In Wujifa, training focuses on developing fascial connectedness."
And you'll find more references on pages: 49, 51, 52, 54, 57, 67, 83, 83, 99.
From what I've read, the fundamental practice of Wujifa is zhan zhuang. The author says on page 67 "when I began...practicing Wujifa zhan zhuang." and on page 84, "When I practice my Wujifa zhan zhuang".
If this book is not notable, then maybe a search on Wujifa should get a redirect to the zhan zhuang article?? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhan_zhuang
Given the scope and content of this book, would you consider this book to be notable? — Preceding unsigned comment added by TooTallMike ( talk • contribs) 18:07, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
Look at Hunyuan. The term Hunyuan is a central concept in Daoist philosophy. Hunyuan Tai-chi is the name of a practice based on Hunyuan philosophy. It is also the name of a Chen Style form: Xinyi Hun Yuan broadsword. It looks like Wujifa is a similar beast. The term Wujifa is a central concept in Buddhist/Chinese philosophy. Wujifa is the name of a practice based on Wujifa philosophy.
There are other examples, the term Zen (and philosophy) is different from the practice of Zen whose main practice is sitting meditation. The term Tai-chi (and philosophy) is different from the practice of Tai-chi whose main practice is forms. You get the idea. I don't mean to muddy the waters but it seems that the answer depends on how you look at it.
One thing that is clear is that the primary practice of wujifa is their form of zhan zhuang. I think this is similar to how Xing-yi has their form of stance practice, and Yi-chuan has their form of zhan zhuang, etc... Wujifa has a form of zhan zhuang practice as well. TooTallMike —Preceding undated comment added 20:33, 19 November 2013 (UTC)