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Merge to
Occupy movement. I think it's gotten some immediate coverage from a notability standpoint that I found doing some research for the RfC, but I don't see where the coverage is enough to sustain an article. A merge seems more appropriate.
Thargor Orlando (
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14:14, 14 April 2014 (UTC)reply
I don't feel that those two links lead to anything that demonstrates that it wasn't a hoax! All the tweets, in particular, could just as well be references to an event that all the tweeters were led to falsely led to believe would take place as it could to an event that they were told truthfully would take place. Dylan Rattigan evidently was under the impression that such an event was about to occur but didn't write anything of substance about it indicating that he knew anything specific about it beyond the impressions given in the initial round of announcements.
It's sort of reminding me of what happened yesterday in Donetsk: the flyers really existed, but what the represented was a hoax.
Note that I'm not declaring a belief that it was an outright hoax. I'm just leaning in that direction because if it was real, if it consisted of actual plans that some organizing group was making, I'd expect manifestations of it to have occurred and to have seen substantial mention of them in the news.
—Largo Plazo (
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21:43, 18 April 2014 (UTC)reply
Radio Rebelde in Cuba reports, "Los activistas del movimiento anticorrupción Wave Of Action lanzaron una campaña de 3 meses en cientos de lugares donde triunfó Ocupa Wall Street para iniciar su propia “Primavera Mundial” de la reforma social, económica y política." ("Activists from the anticorruption movement Wave of Action launched a three-month campaign in hundreds of places since the triumph of Occupy Wall Street to kick off its own "Worldwide Spring" for social, economic, and political reform.") This is the only source that reports in the past tense activities happening in more than one location, but it doesn't report on any of those activities, or even name their locations. A few other articles report on details of a single incident each, each of which the article then associates with WWOA: New York, Venice Beach. The rest of the articles are written in the future tense.
—Largo Plazo (
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11:56, 19 April 2014 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
Merge to
Occupy movement. I think it's gotten some immediate coverage from a notability standpoint that I found doing some research for the RfC, but I don't see where the coverage is enough to sustain an article. A merge seems more appropriate.
Thargor Orlando (
talk)
14:14, 14 April 2014 (UTC)reply
I don't feel that those two links lead to anything that demonstrates that it wasn't a hoax! All the tweets, in particular, could just as well be references to an event that all the tweeters were led to falsely led to believe would take place as it could to an event that they were told truthfully would take place. Dylan Rattigan evidently was under the impression that such an event was about to occur but didn't write anything of substance about it indicating that he knew anything specific about it beyond the impressions given in the initial round of announcements.
It's sort of reminding me of what happened yesterday in Donetsk: the flyers really existed, but what the represented was a hoax.
Note that I'm not declaring a belief that it was an outright hoax. I'm just leaning in that direction because if it was real, if it consisted of actual plans that some organizing group was making, I'd expect manifestations of it to have occurred and to have seen substantial mention of them in the news.
—Largo Plazo (
talk)
21:43, 18 April 2014 (UTC)reply
Radio Rebelde in Cuba reports, "Los activistas del movimiento anticorrupción Wave Of Action lanzaron una campaña de 3 meses en cientos de lugares donde triunfó Ocupa Wall Street para iniciar su propia “Primavera Mundial” de la reforma social, económica y política." ("Activists from the anticorruption movement Wave of Action launched a three-month campaign in hundreds of places since the triumph of Occupy Wall Street to kick off its own "Worldwide Spring" for social, economic, and political reform.") This is the only source that reports in the past tense activities happening in more than one location, but it doesn't report on any of those activities, or even name their locations. A few other articles report on details of a single incident each, each of which the article then associates with WWOA: New York, Venice Beach. The rest of the articles are written in the future tense.
—Largo Plazo (
talk)
11:56, 19 April 2014 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
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