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The result was delete. j⚛e decker talk 00:17, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
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Appears to be a collection of case studies lumped together as an essay to prove the existence of "wo sukuu kai" - a term apparently created by the author. This therefore constitutes
original research.
DAJF (
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13:39, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
No, this is a Japanese term, not created by the author
Kyodaiteeter (
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13:56, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
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- Delete. The title is a fragment of Japanese, which means roughly "Support group for...", and does not make a coherent topic for an encyclopaedia. If there is anything distinctive about Japanese support groups the title should be something like "Japanese support groups", and the article would need to explain why they are different. If you feel that 「～を救う会」 is an important Japanese term, you could contemplate adding it to en.wiktionary. Imaginatorium ( talk) 04:46, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Tom Morris ( talk) 22:11, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Tom Morris ( talk) 22:11, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
- Delete Beyond the fact that the title does not conform with modified Hepburn, I agree with Imaginatorium that the title is not justified by the article. Even as a term, "sukuu kai" is problematic because most searches of that term (for example, this at CiNii) come up with the group that is trying to save those kidnapped by North Korea. In addition, this article is just original research. It is true that there are a lot of these groups out there (here's one list), but the author him or herself cannot take that as a basis to create an article synthesizing these together--the definition of WP:OR. There has to be existing research that treats these as a single phenomenon, but I can't find those. The only option is to re-do this as an article on the problems of organ transplants in Japan--which is the reason these groups exist--but that means re-doing it from the start. Michitaro ( talk) 14:11, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
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The result was delete. j⚛e decker talk 00:17, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
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Appears to be a collection of case studies lumped together as an essay to prove the existence of "wo sukuu kai" - a term apparently created by the author. This therefore constitutes
original research.
DAJF (
talk)
13:39, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
No, this is a Japanese term, not created by the author
Kyodaiteeter (
talk)
13:56, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 17:09, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 17:09, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
- Delete. The title is a fragment of Japanese, which means roughly "Support group for...", and does not make a coherent topic for an encyclopaedia. If there is anything distinctive about Japanese support groups the title should be something like "Japanese support groups", and the article would need to explain why they are different. If you feel that 「～を救う会」 is an important Japanese term, you could contemplate adding it to en.wiktionary. Imaginatorium ( talk) 04:46, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Tom Morris ( talk) 22:11, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Tom Morris ( talk) 22:11, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
- Delete Beyond the fact that the title does not conform with modified Hepburn, I agree with Imaginatorium that the title is not justified by the article. Even as a term, "sukuu kai" is problematic because most searches of that term (for example, this at CiNii) come up with the group that is trying to save those kidnapped by North Korea. In addition, this article is just original research. It is true that there are a lot of these groups out there (here's one list), but the author him or herself cannot take that as a basis to create an article synthesizing these together--the definition of WP:OR. There has to be existing research that treats these as a single phenomenon, but I can't find those. The only option is to re-do this as an article on the problems of organ transplants in Japan--which is the reason these groups exist--but that means re-doing it from the start. Michitaro ( talk) 14:11, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
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