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The result was redirect to East Lansing, Michigan. ♠ PMC♠ (talk) 04:40, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
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Non-notable neighborhood according to GNG and WP:GEOLAND, and it isn't turning up any reliable sourcing via Google. Merge and redirect to East Lansing, Michigan. Citrivescence ( talk) 00:19, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 00:19, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Michigan-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 00:19, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
- Redirect Subdivision fails GEOLAND and GNG. Reywas92 Talk 00:52, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
- Comment. My understanding is that neighborhoods are considered to pass
WP:GEOLAND as long as they are official, city-designated subdivisions. Can someone link me to some previous AfDs where articles for such neighborhoods were deleted or redirected? If this is accepted precedent, then a lot of neighborhood articles will need to be brought to AfD. –
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13:28, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
- This applies to larger neighborhoods and broader districts of cities e.g. Community areas in Chicago, not subdivisions and neighborhood associations for which there's not significant independent coverage of the areas. This is a housing development ( "developed by Al White") that has a homeowners association. While the city provides a map of the HOAs, they are not officially city-designated and Stonelake Condos or Shaw Estates would not be notable either. East Lansing, Michigan#Neighborhoods (or an overview subarticle if warranted) would be the appropriate place for this, not up to 25 articles on each. We've had quite a few housing developments at AFD recently ( 1, 2, 3, 4, 5); though they've tended to be subdivisions not within a city, there's even less of a case for separate articles for incorporated ones since they fit more easily into a Neighborhoods section as here, without independent notability. Yes, there are indeed a lot of non-notable articles out there so redirects are a way to go when there's not significant independent coverage per GNG. Reywas92 Talk 19:29, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sulfurboy ( talk) 02:48, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sulfurboy ( talk) 02:48, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
- Redirect to East Lansing, Michigan or any other suitable article. Best, Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 02:10, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
- Delete a non-notable subdivision. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 12:44, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
- Redirect to East Lansing, Michigan. Non-notable neighborhood. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 19:18, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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The result was redirect to East Lansing, Michigan. ♠ PMC♠ (talk) 04:40, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
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- Whitehills, East Lansing, Michigan ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
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Non-notable neighborhood according to GNG and WP:GEOLAND, and it isn't turning up any reliable sourcing via Google. Merge and redirect to East Lansing, Michigan. Citrivescence ( talk) 00:19, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 00:19, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Michigan-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 00:19, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
- Redirect Subdivision fails GEOLAND and GNG. Reywas92 Talk 00:52, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
- Comment. My understanding is that neighborhoods are considered to pass
WP:GEOLAND as long as they are official, city-designated subdivisions. Can someone link me to some previous AfDs where articles for such neighborhoods were deleted or redirected? If this is accepted precedent, then a lot of neighborhood articles will need to be brought to AfD. –
Lord Bolingbroke (
talk)
13:28, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
- This applies to larger neighborhoods and broader districts of cities e.g. Community areas in Chicago, not subdivisions and neighborhood associations for which there's not significant independent coverage of the areas. This is a housing development ( "developed by Al White") that has a homeowners association. While the city provides a map of the HOAs, they are not officially city-designated and Stonelake Condos or Shaw Estates would not be notable either. East Lansing, Michigan#Neighborhoods (or an overview subarticle if warranted) would be the appropriate place for this, not up to 25 articles on each. We've had quite a few housing developments at AFD recently ( 1, 2, 3, 4, 5); though they've tended to be subdivisions not within a city, there's even less of a case for separate articles for incorporated ones since they fit more easily into a Neighborhoods section as here, without independent notability. Yes, there are indeed a lot of non-notable articles out there so redirects are a way to go when there's not significant independent coverage per GNG. Reywas92 Talk 19:29, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sulfurboy ( talk) 02:48, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sulfurboy ( talk) 02:48, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
- Redirect to East Lansing, Michigan or any other suitable article. Best, Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 02:10, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
- Delete a non-notable subdivision. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 12:44, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
- Redirect to East Lansing, Michigan. Non-notable neighborhood. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 19:18, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.