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Non notable political party, has one elected member on one local board in Auckland - that person themselves doesn't pass
WP:NPOL and the article seems very much promotional towards that person in regards to an upcoming election.
Ajf773 (
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09:57, 24 August 2019 (UTC)reply
Response: This is the one of two main political parties for Auckland Council in Waitakere and the information is important to voters. There are numerous articles that have been referenced from New Zealand's major newspapers. The other main party for Waitakere has put its information up now, and now is trolling to have this entry about their competitors taken down. The North Shore area parties for Council (Shore Action) also has a facebook page. The format for the Shore Action page is the one followed for consistency. If local political parties can not have an entry then all must be removed. — Preceding
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FeijoaSalsa (
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00:32, 25 August 2019 (UTC)reply
Creating a post doesn't mean you have a conflict of interest with a post. I have no conflict of interest. And the post shows no bias. If you have a specific point to make about the post itself or a concern you should raise it rather than ad hominem attacks. The entry is factual about a local party who is running for local office created in the same style as other local parties in Auckland's election . I note that the competing party has put up a wikipedia entry at the same time that the request for the deletion of this page occured. This seems to be a political act to deny the public the right to public information about the local candidates and their parties. It's unclear what the deleters conflicts are. Again their must be consistency on Wikipedia. If this entry is deleted then no local body political parties should have their entries allowed. — Preceding
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FeijoaSalsa (
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04:10, 25 August 2019 (UTC)reply
@The Notability requirements for political parties talk page seems to have not reached a final conclusion. However, WestWards does meet the criteria being discussed. Have campaigned for 2 years. Has an elected member who has numerous articles in New Zealand's national papers which have been included. Is the leading opposition party. To not include smaller parties or independent parties would be anti democratic and deprives voters of a fair choice. So it is a significant party consistent with the other local parties have put entries up for Wikipedia. Targeting this party seems to be a political act.
FeijoaSalsa (
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02:29, 26 August 2019 (UTC)reply
Delete, non-notable local political group. All the references given are about their chair, and some don't even mention the group.-gadfium03:57, 26 August 2019 (UTC)reply
Comment, It's disturbing that the Policies section has not a single source, and the Elections section has an unsourced list of candidates and claim of no conflict of interest. I've looked in vain for sources, and suggest a compromise – remove these sections, leaving the remainder until after the election (less than two months away), then resubmit this AfD if the party achieved no further notability.
Akld guy (
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11:50, 26 August 2019 (UTC)reply
We're not voting on those other parties here, and I might not vote if they came up for AfD, but both have multiple people elected to local bodies at regular elections, whereas WestWards has a single person elected in a by-election, which had a much lower turn-out of electors. I don't think they are therefore comparable.-gadfium02:19, 31 August 2019 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
Non notable political party, has one elected member on one local board in Auckland - that person themselves doesn't pass
WP:NPOL and the article seems very much promotional towards that person in regards to an upcoming election.
Ajf773 (
talk)
09:57, 24 August 2019 (UTC)reply
Response: This is the one of two main political parties for Auckland Council in Waitakere and the information is important to voters. There are numerous articles that have been referenced from New Zealand's major newspapers. The other main party for Waitakere has put its information up now, and now is trolling to have this entry about their competitors taken down. The North Shore area parties for Council (Shore Action) also has a facebook page. The format for the Shore Action page is the one followed for consistency. If local political parties can not have an entry then all must be removed. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
FeijoaSalsa (
talk •
contribs)
00:32, 25 August 2019 (UTC)reply
Creating a post doesn't mean you have a conflict of interest with a post. I have no conflict of interest. And the post shows no bias. If you have a specific point to make about the post itself or a concern you should raise it rather than ad hominem attacks. The entry is factual about a local party who is running for local office created in the same style as other local parties in Auckland's election . I note that the competing party has put up a wikipedia entry at the same time that the request for the deletion of this page occured. This seems to be a political act to deny the public the right to public information about the local candidates and their parties. It's unclear what the deleters conflicts are. Again their must be consistency on Wikipedia. If this entry is deleted then no local body political parties should have their entries allowed. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
FeijoaSalsa (
talk •
contribs)
04:10, 25 August 2019 (UTC)reply
@The Notability requirements for political parties talk page seems to have not reached a final conclusion. However, WestWards does meet the criteria being discussed. Have campaigned for 2 years. Has an elected member who has numerous articles in New Zealand's national papers which have been included. Is the leading opposition party. To not include smaller parties or independent parties would be anti democratic and deprives voters of a fair choice. So it is a significant party consistent with the other local parties have put entries up for Wikipedia. Targeting this party seems to be a political act.
FeijoaSalsa (
talk)
02:29, 26 August 2019 (UTC)reply
Delete, non-notable local political group. All the references given are about their chair, and some don't even mention the group.-gadfium03:57, 26 August 2019 (UTC)reply
Comment, It's disturbing that the Policies section has not a single source, and the Elections section has an unsourced list of candidates and claim of no conflict of interest. I've looked in vain for sources, and suggest a compromise – remove these sections, leaving the remainder until after the election (less than two months away), then resubmit this AfD if the party achieved no further notability.
Akld guy (
talk)
11:50, 26 August 2019 (UTC)reply
We're not voting on those other parties here, and I might not vote if they came up for AfD, but both have multiple people elected to local bodies at regular elections, whereas WestWards has a single person elected in a by-election, which had a much lower turn-out of electors. I don't think they are therefore comparable.-gadfium02:19, 31 August 2019 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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