The result of the debate was no consensus to delete. W.marsh 03:14, 23 March 2006 (UTC) reply
The college shuttle bus that runs between Wellesley, MIT and Harvard is not sifficiently notable to merit a wikipedia article.
Interestingstuffadder 14:34, 14 March 2006 (UTC) I retract these comments and have changed my vote.
Interestingstuffadder 04:02, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
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Delete unless moved back to "Fuck Truck" : renominated because of the move from "fuck truck" to "Wellesley College Senate Bus". I voted againt deletion in the last debate because the term "fuck truck", used at colleges across America, is a genuine piece of American collegiate folklore; I thought this article had potential to grow beyond its discussion of the Wellesley bus and, in so doing, become notable on this cultural basis. However, with this move, the article focuses on this one shuttle bus between a amall liberal arts college outside of Boston and larger nearby colleges...Can you imagine if wikipedia had an article for every specific college shuttle and its campus lore? Simply put, this article in its new, more specic form, simply does not deal with a notable topic. Keep: I am changing my vote for the sake of consistency. I really felt like I was doing the right thing, but I can see how my actions might be perceived as bad faith or at the very least obnoxious. I apologize.
Interestingstuffadder 14:46, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
Interestingstuffadder 04:01, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
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::Comment: Ahh...one more personal attack (to be expected, I guess) that ignores the fact that I have repeatedly identified a specific and reasonable notability-based rationale for the distinction I have drawn between "fuck truck" and "wellesley college senate bus"...
Interestingstuffadder 00:40, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
Interestingstuffadder 04:01, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
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::::comment: it is clear that you have not actually read my comments. I have repeatedly said that "fuck truck" should be retained because I believed it would grow to include information about other shuttles. I myself intended to get to work on this project when I became less busy. I have repeatedly said that it is this widespread usage, which, as I said, I hoped would be incorporated into this article, that created notability. A Wellesley-specific name seems to preclude the addition of information relevant to other schools. Thus, based on rationale for notability, the move to "Wellesley College Senate Bus" made this article non-notable. I have repeatedly stated this good faith rationale for nominating for deletion upon the name change and you have been part of the discussions in which I have said this. So, given that you have had this rationale for my behavior in front of you the whole time and have still made these accusations against me, I feel that I am justified in accusing you of making
personal attacks.
Interestingstuffadder 04:03, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
Interestingstuffadder 04:01, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
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*Allow me to defend myself: Please do not accuse me of bad faith. This is an unsubstiantiated personal attack. If you read my arguments throughout this process, you will see that I have consistently argued for inclusion on the basis that "fuck truck" is a general, non Wellesley-Harvard-MIT specific term (along, I admit, with other complementary rationales). I sincerely believe that an article about a general concept in collegiate humor (fuck truck) is notable while an article about a specific shuttle bus connecting three campuses is not. I have come to hold this view more strongly over the last couple of months, which explains my greater focus on this perspective and increased unwillingness (in my mind) to compromise. Please see my numerous good faith edits (including reverting vandalism) and stop hurling unfounded accusations at me. Thanks.
Interestingstuffadder 00:15, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
Interestingstuffadder 04:01, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was no consensus to delete. W.marsh 03:14, 23 March 2006 (UTC) reply
The college shuttle bus that runs between Wellesley, MIT and Harvard is not sifficiently notable to merit a wikipedia article.
Interestingstuffadder 14:34, 14 March 2006 (UTC) I retract these comments and have changed my vote.
Interestingstuffadder 04:02, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
reply
Delete unless moved back to "Fuck Truck" : renominated because of the move from "fuck truck" to "Wellesley College Senate Bus". I voted againt deletion in the last debate because the term "fuck truck", used at colleges across America, is a genuine piece of American collegiate folklore; I thought this article had potential to grow beyond its discussion of the Wellesley bus and, in so doing, become notable on this cultural basis. However, with this move, the article focuses on this one shuttle bus between a amall liberal arts college outside of Boston and larger nearby colleges...Can you imagine if wikipedia had an article for every specific college shuttle and its campus lore? Simply put, this article in its new, more specic form, simply does not deal with a notable topic. Keep: I am changing my vote for the sake of consistency. I really felt like I was doing the right thing, but I can see how my actions might be perceived as bad faith or at the very least obnoxious. I apologize.
Interestingstuffadder 14:46, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
Interestingstuffadder 04:01, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
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::Comment: Ahh...one more personal attack (to be expected, I guess) that ignores the fact that I have repeatedly identified a specific and reasonable notability-based rationale for the distinction I have drawn between "fuck truck" and "wellesley college senate bus"...
Interestingstuffadder 00:40, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
Interestingstuffadder 04:01, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
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::::comment: it is clear that you have not actually read my comments. I have repeatedly said that "fuck truck" should be retained because I believed it would grow to include information about other shuttles. I myself intended to get to work on this project when I became less busy. I have repeatedly said that it is this widespread usage, which, as I said, I hoped would be incorporated into this article, that created notability. A Wellesley-specific name seems to preclude the addition of information relevant to other schools. Thus, based on rationale for notability, the move to "Wellesley College Senate Bus" made this article non-notable. I have repeatedly stated this good faith rationale for nominating for deletion upon the name change and you have been part of the discussions in which I have said this. So, given that you have had this rationale for my behavior in front of you the whole time and have still made these accusations against me, I feel that I am justified in accusing you of making
personal attacks.
Interestingstuffadder 04:03, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
Interestingstuffadder 04:01, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
reply
*Allow me to defend myself: Please do not accuse me of bad faith. This is an unsubstiantiated personal attack. If you read my arguments throughout this process, you will see that I have consistently argued for inclusion on the basis that "fuck truck" is a general, non Wellesley-Harvard-MIT specific term (along, I admit, with other complementary rationales). I sincerely believe that an article about a general concept in collegiate humor (fuck truck) is notable while an article about a specific shuttle bus connecting three campuses is not. I have come to hold this view more strongly over the last couple of months, which explains my greater focus on this perspective and increased unwillingness (in my mind) to compromise. Please see my numerous good faith edits (including reverting vandalism) and stop hurling unfounded accusations at me. Thanks.
Interestingstuffadder 00:15, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
Interestingstuffadder 04:01, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
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