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The result was no consensus. qedk ( t 桜 c) 11:33, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
Welfare Party of India
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Non notable political party, Fails the Notability guidelines for political parties. Authordom ( talk) 13:46, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. Authordom ( talk) 13:46, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
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- Comment: I have serious concerns about this nomination. WP:NPP is a failed proposal. nom. has removed sources and content from the article before nomination ... while there is nothing that prevents this, it means that what has been removed may not be subject to full scrutiny. The AfD Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/SQR Ilyas while in a minimal discussion suggested this seems to be a fringe party and the party's president claim to notability rested with the party; of which there were three sources in that article. The nom. has done a very much WP:VAGUEWAVE nomination and I perhaps would suggest WP:BEFORE is re-checked as the party does seem to have sustained over eight years or so. I confess to ignorance of India's governance so I cannot determine what elected seats this party holds or at what level and if it is reasonably sufficient for notability. Djm-leighpark ( talk) 20:23, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
- I have removed only non reliable sources and that all mentioned in the summery.
Authordom (
talk) 01:00, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
- Well other people will need to waste their time checking that. Removing "reliable" sources and content rather than marking say Template:Better source needed is an issue. Adding notability tags and immediately sending to WP:AFD is an issue. The fact the nomination on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/SQR Ilyas was for Non notable Islamist politician rather than simply Non notable politician leads to me concerns, probably unfounded, that you may be a biased nominator. All said however as far as I can make out this party did not and has never gained elected seats in the Rajya Sabha or Lok Sabha. There do however appear to be a number of references to the party in the news link in reliable sources: [1], [2] (Passing mentions but 2020) [3], [4], [5], [6], [7] ... Djm-leighpark ( talk) 08:44, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
- Keep: While party is small and fringe they have achieved WP:SUSTAINED and WP:SIGCOV over a period of 8 years. Djm-leighpark ( talk) 08:44, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Missvain ( talk) 16:22, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Missvain ( talk) 16:22, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
- Delete None of the above references establish WP:GNG. Aman Kumar Goel( Talk) 12:37, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 21:34, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 21:34, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
- Delete far from meeting WP:NORG and WP:GNG. Tessaracter ( talk) 15:01, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
- Comment I have indicators sources are not being fully addressed by !delete voters with WP:VAGUEWAVE summaries. To embellish three sources out of many available toward WP:GNG per WP:THREE:
- Ahmed, Khalique Ahmed (7 February 2017). "Gujarat: Welfare Party of India, new player in state politics". The Indian Express.
- Islam, Maidul (2015). Limits of Islamism. Cambridge University Press. pp. 153, 157, 165. doi: 10.1017/CBO9781139946131. ISBN 9781139946131.
- Staff (25 January 2020). "Candlelight protest held against CAA, NRC, NPR". The Hindu.
Thankyou. Of course should any fall there are many replacements on the above links. Djm-leighpark ( talk) 09:46, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
- And how dancing around controversies is enough for meeting WP:NORG and WP:GNG? Aman Kumar Goel( Talk) 18:38, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
- Keep, whilst the article needs a massive cleanup, WPI is a wellknown party. Fringe group, yes, but notable. -- Soman ( talk) 11:55, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
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The result was no consensus. qedk ( t 桜 c) 11:33, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
Welfare Party of India
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Non notable political party, Fails the Notability guidelines for political parties. Authordom ( talk) 13:46, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. Authordom ( talk) 13:46, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions. Authordom ( talk) 13:46, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. Authordom ( talk) 13:46, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
- Comment: I have serious concerns about this nomination. WP:NPP is a failed proposal. nom. has removed sources and content from the article before nomination ... while there is nothing that prevents this, it means that what has been removed may not be subject to full scrutiny. The AfD Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/SQR Ilyas while in a minimal discussion suggested this seems to be a fringe party and the party's president claim to notability rested with the party; of which there were three sources in that article. The nom. has done a very much WP:VAGUEWAVE nomination and I perhaps would suggest WP:BEFORE is re-checked as the party does seem to have sustained over eight years or so. I confess to ignorance of India's governance so I cannot determine what elected seats this party holds or at what level and if it is reasonably sufficient for notability. Djm-leighpark ( talk) 20:23, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
- I have removed only non reliable sources and that all mentioned in the summery.
Authordom (
talk) 01:00, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
- Well other people will need to waste their time checking that. Removing "reliable" sources and content rather than marking say Template:Better source needed is an issue. Adding notability tags and immediately sending to WP:AFD is an issue. The fact the nomination on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/SQR Ilyas was for Non notable Islamist politician rather than simply Non notable politician leads to me concerns, probably unfounded, that you may be a biased nominator. All said however as far as I can make out this party did not and has never gained elected seats in the Rajya Sabha or Lok Sabha. There do however appear to be a number of references to the party in the news link in reliable sources: [1], [2] (Passing mentions but 2020) [3], [4], [5], [6], [7] ... Djm-leighpark ( talk) 08:44, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
- Keep: While party is small and fringe they have achieved WP:SUSTAINED and WP:SIGCOV over a period of 8 years. Djm-leighpark ( talk) 08:44, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Missvain ( talk) 16:22, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Missvain ( talk) 16:22, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
- Delete None of the above references establish WP:GNG. Aman Kumar Goel( Talk) 12:37, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 21:34, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 21:34, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
- Delete far from meeting WP:NORG and WP:GNG. Tessaracter ( talk) 15:01, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
- Comment I have indicators sources are not being fully addressed by !delete voters with WP:VAGUEWAVE summaries. To embellish three sources out of many available toward WP:GNG per WP:THREE:
- Ahmed, Khalique Ahmed (7 February 2017). "Gujarat: Welfare Party of India, new player in state politics". The Indian Express.
- Islam, Maidul (2015). Limits of Islamism. Cambridge University Press. pp. 153, 157, 165. doi: 10.1017/CBO9781139946131. ISBN 9781139946131.
- Staff (25 January 2020). "Candlelight protest held against CAA, NRC, NPR". The Hindu.
Thankyou. Of course should any fall there are many replacements on the above links. Djm-leighpark ( talk) 09:46, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
- And how dancing around controversies is enough for meeting WP:NORG and WP:GNG? Aman Kumar Goel( Talk) 18:38, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
- Keep, whilst the article needs a massive cleanup, WPI is a wellknown party. Fringe group, yes, but notable. -- Soman ( talk) 11:55, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.