The result of the nomination was delete. Sango 123 17:14, 10 July 2006 (UTC) reply
Despite all of the text, there is really nothing here except that he's the pastor of a church whose former pastor was related to a President. That doesn't make him notable. User:Zoe| (talk) 01:02, 5 July 2006 (UTC) reply
He is a notable pastor. He was pastor of the LARGEST Southern Baptist Church in LOUISIANA for fifteen years. We have many teachers, lawyers, and professors on Wikipedia who certainly have records no more impressing that Reverend DuBose. There are only about 15 Baptist ministers on the site. Are we setting a "higher requirement" for ministers than teachers, lawyers, and professors? I removed the "awards" from high school, as that line did seem to trivialize his accomplishments.
Here is a sample of a lawyer on Wikipedia, and I just pulled this name from random:
Steven Dennis Bell (born 11 February 1953 in Akron, Ohio) is a lawyer and mediator.
[edit] Biography Bell's parents are Samuel H. Bell and Joyce (Shaw) Bell. He graduated from the University of Notre Dame in 1975 and from the University of Akron School of Law in 1979. He was admitted to the practice of law in Ohio in 1979. He served as an Assistant Director of Law for the City of Akron (1980 - 1983) and as an Assistant United States Attorney for the Northern District of Ohio (1984 - 1988). He also served as a Special Assistant Attorney General for the State of Ohio (1992). In 2002 he became the managing partner of The Simon Law Firm, LLP in Cleveland, Ohio.
How does this lawyer qualify for inclusion but not the pastor of the largest Baptist church in Louisiana? -- Billy Hathorn
Here's another lawyer who is listed: Albert Bates From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to: navigation, search Albert Bates (born 1947-01-01) is an influential figure in the intentional community and ecovillage movements. A lawyer, author and teacher, he has been director of the Institute for Appropriate Technology since 1984 and of the Ecovillage Training Center at The Farm in Summertown, Tennessee since 1994.
Bates has been a resident of The Farm since 1972. A former attorney, he argued environmental and civil rights cases before the U.S. Supreme Court and drafted a number of legislative Acts during a 26-year legal career. The holder of a number of design patents, Bates invented the concentrating photovoltaic arrays and solar-powered automobile displayed at the 1982 World's Fair. He served on the steering committee of Plenty International for 18 years, focussing on relief and development work with indigenous peoples, human rights and the environment.
Bates has played a major role in the ecovillage movement as one of the start-up members of the Global Ecovillage Network (GEN), and GEN's president of the Ecovillage Network of the Americas (from 1996 to 2004). In 1994 he founded the Ecovillage Training Center, a "whole systems immersion experience of ecovillage living."[1] He has taught courses in sustainable design, natural building, permaculture and technologies of the future to students from more than 50 nations.
So what does this article on another lawyer have to offer that the article on Pastor DuBose lacks? What cleanup does the DuBose article require?
—The preceding
unsigned comment was added by
Billy Hathorn (
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Billy, the argument "you should keep my article because there are others just as bad" is not a valid argument. Discuss the merits of the article in question, please. User:Zoe| (talk) 01:42, 6 July 2006 (UTC) reply
I think it may have been missed that Pastor DuBose was the pastor of the largest Southern Baptist congregation in LOUISIANA for a period of some 15 years. That alone should make him worthy of coverage. The church had over 6,000 members while he was the pastor there. -- Billy Hathorn
I contacted Summer Grove Baptist Church, Shreveport, LA, to confirm that Pastor DuBose was there and that the church had its largest membership then -- largest in the state in fact. I am awaiting a reply. Billy Hathorn 21:54, 7 July 2006 (UTC)Billy Hathorn Billy Hathorn 21:54, 7 July 2006 (UTC) reply
The result of the nomination was delete. Sango 123 17:14, 10 July 2006 (UTC) reply
Despite all of the text, there is really nothing here except that he's the pastor of a church whose former pastor was related to a President. That doesn't make him notable. User:Zoe| (talk) 01:02, 5 July 2006 (UTC) reply
He is a notable pastor. He was pastor of the LARGEST Southern Baptist Church in LOUISIANA for fifteen years. We have many teachers, lawyers, and professors on Wikipedia who certainly have records no more impressing that Reverend DuBose. There are only about 15 Baptist ministers on the site. Are we setting a "higher requirement" for ministers than teachers, lawyers, and professors? I removed the "awards" from high school, as that line did seem to trivialize his accomplishments.
Here is a sample of a lawyer on Wikipedia, and I just pulled this name from random:
Steven Dennis Bell (born 11 February 1953 in Akron, Ohio) is a lawyer and mediator.
[edit] Biography Bell's parents are Samuel H. Bell and Joyce (Shaw) Bell. He graduated from the University of Notre Dame in 1975 and from the University of Akron School of Law in 1979. He was admitted to the practice of law in Ohio in 1979. He served as an Assistant Director of Law for the City of Akron (1980 - 1983) and as an Assistant United States Attorney for the Northern District of Ohio (1984 - 1988). He also served as a Special Assistant Attorney General for the State of Ohio (1992). In 2002 he became the managing partner of The Simon Law Firm, LLP in Cleveland, Ohio.
How does this lawyer qualify for inclusion but not the pastor of the largest Baptist church in Louisiana? -- Billy Hathorn
Here's another lawyer who is listed: Albert Bates From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to: navigation, search Albert Bates (born 1947-01-01) is an influential figure in the intentional community and ecovillage movements. A lawyer, author and teacher, he has been director of the Institute for Appropriate Technology since 1984 and of the Ecovillage Training Center at The Farm in Summertown, Tennessee since 1994.
Bates has been a resident of The Farm since 1972. A former attorney, he argued environmental and civil rights cases before the U.S. Supreme Court and drafted a number of legislative Acts during a 26-year legal career. The holder of a number of design patents, Bates invented the concentrating photovoltaic arrays and solar-powered automobile displayed at the 1982 World's Fair. He served on the steering committee of Plenty International for 18 years, focussing on relief and development work with indigenous peoples, human rights and the environment.
Bates has played a major role in the ecovillage movement as one of the start-up members of the Global Ecovillage Network (GEN), and GEN's president of the Ecovillage Network of the Americas (from 1996 to 2004). In 1994 he founded the Ecovillage Training Center, a "whole systems immersion experience of ecovillage living."[1] He has taught courses in sustainable design, natural building, permaculture and technologies of the future to students from more than 50 nations.
So what does this article on another lawyer have to offer that the article on Pastor DuBose lacks? What cleanup does the DuBose article require?
—The preceding
unsigned comment was added by
Billy Hathorn (
talk •
contribs) 20:21, 5 July 2006 UTC.
Billy, the argument "you should keep my article because there are others just as bad" is not a valid argument. Discuss the merits of the article in question, please. User:Zoe| (talk) 01:42, 6 July 2006 (UTC) reply
I think it may have been missed that Pastor DuBose was the pastor of the largest Southern Baptist congregation in LOUISIANA for a period of some 15 years. That alone should make him worthy of coverage. The church had over 6,000 members while he was the pastor there. -- Billy Hathorn
I contacted Summer Grove Baptist Church, Shreveport, LA, to confirm that Pastor DuBose was there and that the church had its largest membership then -- largest in the state in fact. I am awaiting a reply. Billy Hathorn 21:54, 7 July 2006 (UTC)Billy Hathorn Billy Hathorn 21:54, 7 July 2006 (UTC) reply