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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Qwaiiplayer ( talk) 15:21, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
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Unpopulated location with no citations, fails GEOLAND dud hhr Contribs 05:17, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Croatia-related deletion discussions. dud hhr Contribs 05:17, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
- Comment. There was indeed a village here, and records can be found in old censuses. It had 141 residents back in 1953 [1] and even a school class in 1963 [2] but it started downhill from there. It is mentioned in the book "Depopulation in Croatia" [3] having only 4 residents in 1991 and it's apparently abandoned by now. No such user ( talk) 07:54, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 09:55, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
- Keep - formerly populated place so passes WP:GEOLAND, article does need improving, though Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 09:57, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
- A google search of this toponym shows a page
[4] on the
Croatian Bureau of Statistics website which sadly doesn't seem to support deep linking, but does allow one to click through and search their database to confirm continuous settlement between around 1900 and around 1981 (happening to peak at 271 inhabitants in the 1953 census), and that in 1981, this place became a hamlet of
Blažević Dol (which still has a comparable population today). A search on
https://geoportal.dgu.hr/ which is the map website of the State Geodetic Administration (another Croatian government entity) easily confirms the location. We have gazetteer articles on existing villages with much smaller population, so it stands to reason that there is sufficient potential here to keep this one, too. Worst case it can later be redirected to the existing place's article, when that one in turn gets created. --
Joy [shallot] (
talk)
17:46, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
- @
Joy: For a future reference, the DZS website allows you to save a query ("Spremi pretraživanje") and retrieve it by URL (works in Edge but not FF):
http://www.dzs.hr/App/PXWeb/PXWebHrv/sq/d522b4ea-ad2d-4a2f-bbf3-31100af7850b
As a matter of fact, we have a quite long, unsourced and contextless List of former populated places in Croatia. No such user ( talk) 11:49, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
- @
Joy: For a future reference, the DZS website allows you to save a query ("Spremi pretraživanje") and retrieve it by URL (works in Edge but not FF):
- Keep. Appears to have once been a recognised settlement, so passes WP:GEOLAND. -- Necrothesp ( talk) 12:16, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Qwaiiplayer ( talk) 15:21, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
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- Vrbovačko Brdo ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log)
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Unpopulated location with no citations, fails GEOLAND dud hhr Contribs 05:17, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Croatia-related deletion discussions. dud hhr Contribs 05:17, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
- Comment. There was indeed a village here, and records can be found in old censuses. It had 141 residents back in 1953 [1] and even a school class in 1963 [2] but it started downhill from there. It is mentioned in the book "Depopulation in Croatia" [3] having only 4 residents in 1991 and it's apparently abandoned by now. No such user ( talk) 07:54, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 09:55, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
- Keep - formerly populated place so passes WP:GEOLAND, article does need improving, though Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 09:57, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
- A google search of this toponym shows a page
[4] on the
Croatian Bureau of Statistics website which sadly doesn't seem to support deep linking, but does allow one to click through and search their database to confirm continuous settlement between around 1900 and around 1981 (happening to peak at 271 inhabitants in the 1953 census), and that in 1981, this place became a hamlet of
Blažević Dol (which still has a comparable population today). A search on
https://geoportal.dgu.hr/ which is the map website of the State Geodetic Administration (another Croatian government entity) easily confirms the location. We have gazetteer articles on existing villages with much smaller population, so it stands to reason that there is sufficient potential here to keep this one, too. Worst case it can later be redirected to the existing place's article, when that one in turn gets created. --
Joy [shallot] (
talk)
17:46, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
- @
Joy: For a future reference, the DZS website allows you to save a query ("Spremi pretraživanje") and retrieve it by URL (works in Edge but not FF):
http://www.dzs.hr/App/PXWeb/PXWebHrv/sq/d522b4ea-ad2d-4a2f-bbf3-31100af7850b
As a matter of fact, we have a quite long, unsourced and contextless List of former populated places in Croatia. No such user ( talk) 11:49, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
- @
Joy: For a future reference, the DZS website allows you to save a query ("Spremi pretraživanje") and retrieve it by URL (works in Edge but not FF):
- Keep. Appears to have once been a recognised settlement, so passes WP:GEOLAND. -- Necrothesp ( talk) 12:16, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.