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The result was delete. Courcelles ( talk) 12:53, 28 March 2023 (UTC) reply

Virginia Greville

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Ambassadors are not inherently notable. All the sources provided are primary. Fails WP:BIO. LibStar ( talk) 01:20, 21 March 2023 (UTC) reply

Delete or redirect to List_of_ambassadors_of_Australia_to_Spain(based on it being her last posting) on this one. I see a little sporadic press coverage ( https://dsf.newscorpaustralia.com/couriermail/subscription/) consistent with what I’d expect for an ambassador and she’s certainly accomplished. HOWEVER… All biographical information not from the government I managed to turn up myself seems to come from schools she has attended ( https://www.uq.edu.au/news/article/2015/05/uq-alumnus-named-ambassador-spain, https://law.anu.edu.au/alumni/alumni-profiles/virginia-greville, https://www.stmargarets.qld.edu.au/125/125-notables/virginia-greville) . So I’m not seeing in-depth coverage from a secondary/RS here. Fails Wikipedia:BIO absent such sourcing. Jo7hs2 ( talk) 01:38, 21 March 2023 (UTC) reply

She was also ambassador to Chile (And other South American countries), so I don't support redirect in this case. LibStar ( talk) 01:55, 21 March 2023 (UTC) reply

That’s a fair point. I could see justifying the redirect based on it being her last posting and the largest country she was ambassador to, but it could also be confusing. Jo7hs2 ( talk) 02:09, 21 March 2023 (UTC) reply

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Politicians, Women, Bilateral relations, Andorra, Spain, Australia, Bolivia, Chile, Colombia, Ecuador, Peru, and Venezuela. Spiderone ^{(Talk to Spider)} 08:32, 21 March 2023 (UTC) reply
• Delete: Per nom, Ambassadors are not inherently notable. None of the sources are really inline with WP:GNG // GMH Melbourne ( talk) 00:12, 22 March 2023 (UTC) reply
• Keep: Per WP:NPOL, as Greville held the regional position of Chief Executive Officer of Trade and Investment of Queensland. She has a notesworthy diplomatic career, being ambassador of at least 9 different countries. -- NoonIcarus ( talk) 13:26, 25 March 2023 (UTC) reply

  Being chief of a government agency does not meet WP:NPOL. LibStar ( talk) 03:46, 26 March 2023 (UTC) reply

  The following are presumed to be notable: Politicians and judges who have held international, national, or (for countries with federal or similar systems of government) state/province–wide office, or have been members of legislative bodies at those levels. This also applies to people who have been elected to such offices but have not yet assumed them. -- NoonIcarus ( talk) 14:13, 26 March 2023 (UTC) reply

  Being ambassador to several countries does not confer automatic notability, many of these countries she was a non resident ambassador. LibStar ( talk) 03:48, 26 March 2023 (UTC) reply

  A "notesworthy diplomatic career" is not the same as a career that meets WP:GNG and WP:BIO. LibStar ( talk) 22:05, 26 March 2023 (UTC) reply

• Delete - not enough in-depth coverage to meet WP:GNG and does not meet WP:NPOL. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 00:26, 28 March 2023 (UTC) reply

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