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The result was redirect to Robbie Williams. Just another reminder, if you are seeking an outcome of Redirect or Merge, please specify the target article you believe is most appropriate so the closer doesn't have to guess what you are thinking. Failing to do this will likely cause the discussion to be relisted until a target is specified. Liz Read! Talk! 01:12, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
Under the Radar Volume 3
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This page was recreated multiple times from 2019 to 2021 with no notability demonstrated since then. It only has three sources, and two of those are to Williams's website, and the other is YouTube. I don't see any convincing coverage of this from a Google search, and while the first two volumes have a bit more out there on them that might make them notable, I don't think this third volume does. Williams having released notable recordings before and since doesn't mean this compilation is notable as notability is inherited, and so I'm requesting this be redirected so that there's consensus against another editor restoring it. Ss 112 00:17, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
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Shellwood (
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- Robbie Williams is a highly popular and significant recording artist. Wikipedia has comprehensive coverage of his discography. If Wikipedia is to be a reliable public source of knowledge, this album ought to be included in the artist's catalogue. Whether or not this particular record is 'notable' isn't really germane: Robbie Williams' entries on Wikipedia will be incomplete if this article is deleted.
81.174.241.92 (
talk) 21:49, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
- Notability is not inherited to each of an artist's recordings just because an artist themselves is notable ( WP:NOTINHERITED). We do not have an article for every single thing Williams has released, and the album will still be listed on his discography—it just won't have an article because there's nothing that has been demonstrated to be important about this particular recording. It absolutely is "germane" whether or not this album is notable because this is WP:AFD where we decide if articles themselves (and thus, their topics) are notable enough to keep. Ss 112 03:27, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
- Robbie Williams is a highly popular and significant recording artist. Wikipedia has comprehensive coverage of his discography. If Wikipedia is to be a reliable public source of knowledge, this album ought to be included in the artist's catalogue. Whether or not this particular record is 'notable' isn't really germane: Robbie Williams' entries on Wikipedia will be incomplete if this article is deleted.
81.174.241.92 (
talk) 21:49, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 01:57, 1 September 2023 (UTC)- Definitely redirect. It is not essential for this article to exist as is simply because it's a Robbie Williams release. The only applicable sources provided here refer to his official website and YouTube channel. A quick Google search gave me virtually nothing of encyclopedic substance, merely the usual retailer and streaming offers. If anything, the bit of information on the album can be moved to his main article. Lk95 ( talk) 15:12, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
- Redirect to Robbie Williams: Found a few announcement pieces ( [1] [2] [3]) but nothing of substance. As SS112 already explained, notability is not inherited, so just because this is a release by a very famous musician doesn't mean it is automatically cleared for a place here. Disclaimer: I was invited to this discussion by SS112 (although I do keep Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Albums and songs on my watchlist so I would've seen it when it was first posted anyway). QuietHere ( talk | contributions) 16:06, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
- That article has barely any reliable resources/references to support its existence on wikipedia. I would recommend researching and compile as many reliable resources and articles to justify the notability of the album. Once you have done that, we all can surely revisit this discussion. For now, I am unison with other members regarding the deletion of this particular article. KARANSUTTA ( talk) 02:09, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was redirect to Robbie Williams. Just another reminder, if you are seeking an outcome of Redirect or Merge, please specify the target article you believe is most appropriate so the closer doesn't have to guess what you are thinking. Failing to do this will likely cause the discussion to be relisted until a target is specified. Liz Read! Talk! 01:12, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
Under the Radar Volume 3
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This page was recreated multiple times from 2019 to 2021 with no notability demonstrated since then. It only has three sources, and two of those are to Williams's website, and the other is YouTube. I don't see any convincing coverage of this from a Google search, and while the first two volumes have a bit more out there on them that might make them notable, I don't think this third volume does. Williams having released notable recordings before and since doesn't mean this compilation is notable as notability is inherited, and so I'm requesting this be redirected so that there's consensus against another editor restoring it. Ss 112 00:17, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the
list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions.
Shellwood (
talk) 11:13, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
- Robbie Williams is a highly popular and significant recording artist. Wikipedia has comprehensive coverage of his discography. If Wikipedia is to be a reliable public source of knowledge, this album ought to be included in the artist's catalogue. Whether or not this particular record is 'notable' isn't really germane: Robbie Williams' entries on Wikipedia will be incomplete if this article is deleted.
81.174.241.92 (
talk) 21:49, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
- Notability is not inherited to each of an artist's recordings just because an artist themselves is notable ( WP:NOTINHERITED). We do not have an article for every single thing Williams has released, and the album will still be listed on his discography—it just won't have an article because there's nothing that has been demonstrated to be important about this particular recording. It absolutely is "germane" whether or not this album is notable because this is WP:AFD where we decide if articles themselves (and thus, their topics) are notable enough to keep. Ss 112 03:27, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
- Robbie Williams is a highly popular and significant recording artist. Wikipedia has comprehensive coverage of his discography. If Wikipedia is to be a reliable public source of knowledge, this album ought to be included in the artist's catalogue. Whether or not this particular record is 'notable' isn't really germane: Robbie Williams' entries on Wikipedia will be incomplete if this article is deleted.
81.174.241.92 (
talk) 21:49, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 01:57, 1 September 2023 (UTC)- Definitely redirect. It is not essential for this article to exist as is simply because it's a Robbie Williams release. The only applicable sources provided here refer to his official website and YouTube channel. A quick Google search gave me virtually nothing of encyclopedic substance, merely the usual retailer and streaming offers. If anything, the bit of information on the album can be moved to his main article. Lk95 ( talk) 15:12, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
- Redirect to Robbie Williams: Found a few announcement pieces ( [1] [2] [3]) but nothing of substance. As SS112 already explained, notability is not inherited, so just because this is a release by a very famous musician doesn't mean it is automatically cleared for a place here. Disclaimer: I was invited to this discussion by SS112 (although I do keep Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Albums and songs on my watchlist so I would've seen it when it was first posted anyway). QuietHere ( talk | contributions) 16:06, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
- That article has barely any reliable resources/references to support its existence on wikipedia. I would recommend researching and compile as many reliable resources and articles to justify the notability of the album. Once you have done that, we all can surely revisit this discussion. For now, I am unison with other members regarding the deletion of this particular article. KARANSUTTA ( talk) 02:09, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.