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The result was redirect to 2012 in UFC events#UFC 149. While there are many keep !votes in this discussion, there are very few (if any) that have a valid, policy-based rationale. After removing them from consideration, there is agreement that this event should be covered at 2012 in UFC events unless it ends up receiving more than routine press coverage. Content from this article can still be found in the page's history if anyone would like to merge anything. -Scottywong | chat _ 14:37, 7 April 2012 (UTC) reply
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This event, not due for another three months clearly fails the
WP:NOTNEWSPAPER policy along with
WP:MMAEVENT,
WP:EVENT and
WP:SPORTSEVENT notability guidelines, the coverage that this "event" received is totally routine in nature (consisting of the event announcement, who is going to take part) the article does not attempt to demonstrate what this event's lasting effect is going to be and nor can it.
Countless notable organisations hold countless events every week that are not worthy of encyclopaedic note, this one is no different.
Mt
king
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00:14, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
reply
As far as my views go? Well, quite aside from that according to Google News, news hits for the Stanley Cup championships outnumber those for the UFC featherweight title nearly ten thousand to one, in point of fact, we cover the annual playoffs in omnibus articles much as is being done with the MMA omnibus articles: all fifteen playoff series, 80-90 games - one article. Ravenswing 20:11, 3 April 2012 (UTC) reply
This discussion has nothing to do with the omnibus article. This is a discussion on the afD for UFC 149. Please stay on topic.
Plus, is Google News the benchmark for WP:GNG now? Someone should alter the Wikipedia standards to show this recent change. Not to mention the fact that a quick search of Google News for "Stanley Cup" only return 5,840 results, making your claim of "10,000 to one" patently false. AugustWest1980 ( talk) 04:12, 4 April 2012 (UTC) reply
As far as the policies under which deletion is pertinent, WP:ROUTINE is one, which explicitly debars routine sports coverage. The GNG is another, which you are misreading; it requires reliable, published sources which discuss the subject in "significant detail."
Of the reliable sources listed in this article, the National Post, Vancouver Sun and ESPN cites aren't about this event, but about UFC's plans in Canada generally. The Calgary Herald cite is about the event ... and gives it a third as much column inches as the article about the Calgary Flames hockey game against Colorado the previous night, an event that needless to say did not merit its own article; it's covered in the omnibus 2011–12 Calgary Flames season. The Toronto Sun article is a survey about the UFC featherweight division. Ravenswing 20:42, 4 April 2012 (UTC) reply
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The result was redirect to 2012 in UFC events#UFC 149. While there are many keep !votes in this discussion, there are very few (if any) that have a valid, policy-based rationale. After removing them from consideration, there is agreement that this event should be covered at 2012 in UFC events unless it ends up receiving more than routine press coverage. Content from this article can still be found in the page's history if anyone would like to merge anything. -Scottywong | chat _ 14:37, 7 April 2012 (UTC) reply
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This event, not due for another three months clearly fails the
WP:NOTNEWSPAPER policy along with
WP:MMAEVENT,
WP:EVENT and
WP:SPORTSEVENT notability guidelines, the coverage that this "event" received is totally routine in nature (consisting of the event announcement, who is going to take part) the article does not attempt to demonstrate what this event's lasting effect is going to be and nor can it.
Countless notable organisations hold countless events every week that are not worthy of encyclopaedic note, this one is no different.
Mt
king
(edits)
00:14, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
reply
As far as my views go? Well, quite aside from that according to Google News, news hits for the Stanley Cup championships outnumber those for the UFC featherweight title nearly ten thousand to one, in point of fact, we cover the annual playoffs in omnibus articles much as is being done with the MMA omnibus articles: all fifteen playoff series, 80-90 games - one article. Ravenswing 20:11, 3 April 2012 (UTC) reply
This discussion has nothing to do with the omnibus article. This is a discussion on the afD for UFC 149. Please stay on topic.
Plus, is Google News the benchmark for WP:GNG now? Someone should alter the Wikipedia standards to show this recent change. Not to mention the fact that a quick search of Google News for "Stanley Cup" only return 5,840 results, making your claim of "10,000 to one" patently false. AugustWest1980 ( talk) 04:12, 4 April 2012 (UTC) reply
As far as the policies under which deletion is pertinent, WP:ROUTINE is one, which explicitly debars routine sports coverage. The GNG is another, which you are misreading; it requires reliable, published sources which discuss the subject in "significant detail."
Of the reliable sources listed in this article, the National Post, Vancouver Sun and ESPN cites aren't about this event, but about UFC's plans in Canada generally. The Calgary Herald cite is about the event ... and gives it a third as much column inches as the article about the Calgary Flames hockey game against Colorado the previous night, an event that needless to say did not merit its own article; it's covered in the omnibus 2011–12 Calgary Flames season. The Toronto Sun article is a survey about the UFC featherweight division. Ravenswing 20:42, 4 April 2012 (UTC) reply