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The result was no consensus. Sandstein 09:17, 21 July 2018 (UTC)
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- Delete. The article seems to be about a minor club which cannot be considered notable enough to warrant an article. The article was created by a blocked user who created numerous articles about niche subjects, many of them with little or no verification. The same rationale applies to each of the other three sports clubs I am adding to this AFD (see below). Izzat Kutebar ( talk) 11:23, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
- I am nominating the following three articles for deletion too. They all concern minor sports clubs and were created by the same blocked user:
- Please let me know if I need to do anything more as I am still getting used to this bundling process. Thank you. Izzat Kutebar ( talk) 11:26, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
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- Keep. These clubs are notable. Izzat is being overly enthusiastic in seeking for their deletion. Their creator was banned for persistently creating family biographies but that doesn't mean all his/her contributions to Wikipedia weren't worthwhile. I think the three sources I was easily able to find and add demonstrates that Izzat did not do a BEFORE. Finnegas ( talk) 17:00, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
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- Comment : Checking out
WP:NSPORTS, I read
it is not intended that this guideline should apply to sports clubs and teams; for these, the specific notability guideline is WP:ORG
, yet in WP:ORG I readthis guideline covers all groups of people organized together for a purpose with the exception of sports teams
. - The Gnome ( talk) 12:14, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
- @
The Gnome: Intriguing, is it not? As I mentioned in
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Actors of the World, another similar and confusing loop exists between NORG and NBIO.
WP:NORG:
This guideline does not cover small groups of closely related people such as families, entertainment groups, co-authors, and co-inventors covered by WP:Notability (people).
But WP:NBIO leaves "entertainment groups" out of the footnote to the lead, saying:"While this guideline also pertains to small groups of closely related people such as families, co-authors, and co-inventors, it does not cover groups of unrelated people, which are covered by the notability guideline for organizations and companies."
and WP:ENT does not seem to cover groups. Sam Sailor 15:30, 13 July 2018 (UTC)- (sigh). I've taken it upstairs. - The Gnome ( talk) 06:44, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
- @
The Gnome: Intriguing, is it not? As I mentioned in
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Actors of the World, another similar and confusing loop exists between NORG and NBIO.
WP:NORG:
- What about WP:GNG? The article has two sources from RTÉ which is Ireland's national broadcaster. In addition, if you look at Izzat's edits you'll see he has nominated other articles for deletion in a similar fashion and similar grounds and they've been kept. Finnegas ( talk) 23:21, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
- Greetings. Firstly, other stuff in Wikipedia is of no concern here; policy is. Secondly, an editor can be behaving "badly" in general, yet we are obliged to assess AfDs on the basis of arguments. Thirdly, is WP:GNG on its own enough? Local, specialist, and national media will always have reports about small clubs in small communities. As far as I'm concerned, I dearly wish we could include the darling lot of them in Wikipedia, since, as it happens, I'm quite an acolyte of amateur and lower division sports. My long suffering library can attest to that! But policy suggests, though quite murkily as I note above, that notability is lacking. Take care. - The Gnome ( talk) 06:40, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
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The result was no consensus. Sandstein 09:17, 21 July 2018 (UTC)
Tyrrellspass GAA
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- Delete. The article seems to be about a minor club which cannot be considered notable enough to warrant an article. The article was created by a blocked user who created numerous articles about niche subjects, many of them with little or no verification. The same rationale applies to each of the other three sports clubs I am adding to this AFD (see below). Izzat Kutebar ( talk) 11:23, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
- I am nominating the following three articles for deletion too. They all concern minor sports clubs and were created by the same blocked user:
- Please let me know if I need to do anything more as I am still getting used to this bundling process. Thank you. Izzat Kutebar ( talk) 11:26, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sports-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple ( talk) 01:53, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple ( talk) 01:53, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Ireland-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple ( talk) 01:53, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Yunshui 雲 水 10:29, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Yunshui 雲 水 10:29, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
- Keep. These clubs are notable. Izzat is being overly enthusiastic in seeking for their deletion. Their creator was banned for persistently creating family biographies but that doesn't mean all his/her contributions to Wikipedia weren't worthwhile. I think the three sources I was easily able to find and add demonstrates that Izzat did not do a BEFORE. Finnegas ( talk) 17:00, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Cricket-related deletion discussions. Finnegas ( talk) 20:16, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 08:58, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 08:58, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
- Comment : Checking out
WP:NSPORTS, I read
it is not intended that this guideline should apply to sports clubs and teams; for these, the specific notability guideline is WP:ORG
, yet in WP:ORG I readthis guideline covers all groups of people organized together for a purpose with the exception of sports teams
. - The Gnome ( talk) 12:14, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
- @
The Gnome: Intriguing, is it not? As I mentioned in
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Actors of the World, another similar and confusing loop exists between NORG and NBIO.
WP:NORG:
This guideline does not cover small groups of closely related people such as families, entertainment groups, co-authors, and co-inventors covered by WP:Notability (people).
But WP:NBIO leaves "entertainment groups" out of the footnote to the lead, saying:"While this guideline also pertains to small groups of closely related people such as families, co-authors, and co-inventors, it does not cover groups of unrelated people, which are covered by the notability guideline for organizations and companies."
and WP:ENT does not seem to cover groups. Sam Sailor 15:30, 13 July 2018 (UTC)- (sigh). I've taken it upstairs. - The Gnome ( talk) 06:44, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
- @
The Gnome: Intriguing, is it not? As I mentioned in
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Actors of the World, another similar and confusing loop exists between NORG and NBIO.
WP:NORG:
- What about WP:GNG? The article has two sources from RTÉ which is Ireland's national broadcaster. In addition, if you look at Izzat's edits you'll see he has nominated other articles for deletion in a similar fashion and similar grounds and they've been kept. Finnegas ( talk) 23:21, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
- Greetings. Firstly, other stuff in Wikipedia is of no concern here; policy is. Secondly, an editor can be behaving "badly" in general, yet we are obliged to assess AfDs on the basis of arguments. Thirdly, is WP:GNG on its own enough? Local, specialist, and national media will always have reports about small clubs in small communities. As far as I'm concerned, I dearly wish we could include the darling lot of them in Wikipedia, since, as it happens, I'm quite an acolyte of amateur and lower division sports. My long suffering library can attest to that! But policy suggests, though quite murkily as I note above, that notability is lacking. Take care. - The Gnome ( talk) 06:40, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
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