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Insufficient sources for notability. WSJ can of course be a good reference--except that this particular WSJ article does not even mention the company. DGG (
talk ) 00:03, 21 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Keep – The topic passes
WP:CORPDEPTH per book coverage and coverage in
bylinednews articles written by
staff writers that have been published in independent, reliable sources. Note that regarding the latter, these are not press releases, as evidenced in part by utilizing Google searches using the titles of these article, in which links are only present for these articles themselves, as opposed to press releases, which typically have many links to the same article hosted on various websites.
Also keep per
WP:NEXIST, because
notability is based on the existence of suitable sources, not on the state of sourcing in an article. Source examples include, but are not limited to those listed below. North America1000 00:38, 21 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Keep - Clearly meets notability standards. The BusinessWeek reference, for instance, would be sufficient on its own, but the reliable reporting by FAR is not limited to that.
Fieari (
talk) 00:49, 21 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Comment At least some of these are not third party. The author bio in 'Becoming a Trustworthy Leader: Psychology and Practice' is the blurb in a book for one of its contributors. Such blurbs are written by the subject and the PR staff, and are exactly equivalent to the author praising himself on Amazon. DGG (
talk ) 04:05, 23 June 2016 (UTC)reply
@
DGG: I think your assessment of Becoming a Trustworthy Leader: Psychology and Practice is incorrect. Scroll up and down on the 13-page appendix page, which is titled "Appendix A: Leader and Scholar Biographies" and notice all of those names. This is a book about leadership, and the Appendix simply denotes notable leaders in a biographical format. It's quite unlikely that the subject contributed to the book, and several searches did not provide any evidence of this claim whatsoever. The book only has two authors, and in checking it out, it is not written in a format with any guest contributors. North America1000 07:56, 23 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Keep I read a rather long article about this company years ago (probably in the Lansing State Journal) but that was probably in 97 or so? So I know there is a source out there. Also
[1] has a decent amount of coverage.
[2] also has a fair bit of detail.
Hobit (
talk) 21:30, 27 June 2016 (UTC)reply
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Insufficient sources for notability. WSJ can of course be a good reference--except that this particular WSJ article does not even mention the company. DGG (
talk ) 00:03, 21 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Keep – The topic passes
WP:CORPDEPTH per book coverage and coverage in
bylinednews articles written by
staff writers that have been published in independent, reliable sources. Note that regarding the latter, these are not press releases, as evidenced in part by utilizing Google searches using the titles of these article, in which links are only present for these articles themselves, as opposed to press releases, which typically have many links to the same article hosted on various websites.
Also keep per
WP:NEXIST, because
notability is based on the existence of suitable sources, not on the state of sourcing in an article. Source examples include, but are not limited to those listed below. North America1000 00:38, 21 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Keep - Clearly meets notability standards. The BusinessWeek reference, for instance, would be sufficient on its own, but the reliable reporting by FAR is not limited to that.
Fieari (
talk) 00:49, 21 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Comment At least some of these are not third party. The author bio in 'Becoming a Trustworthy Leader: Psychology and Practice' is the blurb in a book for one of its contributors. Such blurbs are written by the subject and the PR staff, and are exactly equivalent to the author praising himself on Amazon. DGG (
talk ) 04:05, 23 June 2016 (UTC)reply
@
DGG: I think your assessment of Becoming a Trustworthy Leader: Psychology and Practice is incorrect. Scroll up and down on the 13-page appendix page, which is titled "Appendix A: Leader and Scholar Biographies" and notice all of those names. This is a book about leadership, and the Appendix simply denotes notable leaders in a biographical format. It's quite unlikely that the subject contributed to the book, and several searches did not provide any evidence of this claim whatsoever. The book only has two authors, and in checking it out, it is not written in a format with any guest contributors. North America1000 07:56, 23 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Keep I read a rather long article about this company years ago (probably in the Lansing State Journal) but that was probably in 97 or so? So I know there is a source out there. Also
[1] has a decent amount of coverage.
[2] also has a fair bit of detail.
Hobit (
talk) 21:30, 27 June 2016 (UTC)reply
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