- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Sandstein 16:54, 11 August 2018 (UTC)
AfDs for this article:
[Hide this box] New to Articles for deletion (AfD)? Read these primers!
- Troy–UAB football rivalry (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
Non-GNG callouts:
- Troy lead series 7-5, with last game played in 2014
- Prior AfD outcome was delete in Dec 2014
- UAB cancelled their program and did not field a team in 2015 or 2016, then resumed play in 2017.
- This article was recreated in Oct 2017 [1] with only a winspedia.com citation re the 7-5 series record
- No series games have been either played or scheduled since prior AfD delete
- The two teams are currently in different FBS conferences
WP:NRIVALRY says "Sports rivalries are not inherently notable" and defers to WP:GNG. GNG states "If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to be suitable for a stand-alone article or list." Currently there are zero citations which reference an existing rivalry. The pre-AfD delete version does not establish a rivalry. [2] Current searches do not return significant coverage in independent sources to meet GNG standards ("significant coverage"). There are newer comments and speculation based on the resumption of UAB program, including:
- "Troy coach 'really happy' for Bill Clark, UAB football; expects rivalry to be rekindled" al.com, 2015
- "BIRMINGHAM, AL (WBRC) - A Troy versus UAB football game sounds like a no brainer and an instant rivalry. It was before the Blazers' football program shutdown. The problem is before UAB rebooted the football program, Troy has moved into a different direction without that in-state rivalry." wbrc.com, 2016 (2 paragraph story).
Fails GNG, might be WP:TOOSOON. UW Dawgs ( talk) 20:00, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of American football-related deletion discussions. Gameinfirmary ( talk) 20:14, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Alabama-related deletion discussions. Gameinfirmary ( talk) 20:14, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
- Delete Agree with nominator that it's WP:TOOSOON. The only reference to a rivalry I found is the same article at al.com that the nominator mentioned - and one coach, who's trying to hype his football program, mentioning a 'rivalry' does not a rivalry make. Sorry. Amsgearing ( talk) 20:36, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
- Delete - two teams playing each other 12 times does not (necessarily) equate to a 'rivalry.' In any case, as stated, each rivalry does not require a wikipedia page. I see no special notability here; in fact, it might as well be a speedy delete - no change since the previous AfD. ‡ Єl Cid of áºalencia áT₳LKᬠ20:57, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
- Delete. The last AfD ended in a unanimous "delete" determination in December 2014. Not sure what happened; did the deletion disposition not get acted upon? In any even, no additional games have been played, so I can't imagine what the basis would be for reaching a different result today. Cbl62 ( talk) 21:59, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
- Delete per last decision. Hasn't gotten much more notable since (and lost notability due to UAB's involuntary program hibernation for a few years). Was something not hit that allowed an account to restore, revisions and all? Nate • ( chatter) 00:09, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
- Delete I'm not sure it's even a "rivalry" , certainly not on the scale necessary for inclusion in this encyclopedia. Try another wiki?-- Paul McDonald ( talk) 00:39, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
- Delete - this is just a rivalry between two college sides, and the article is very thin on references. Vorbee ( talk) 15:13, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Sandstein 16:54, 11 August 2018 (UTC)
AfDs for this article:
[Hide this box] New to Articles for deletion (AfD)? Read these primers!
- Troy–UAB football rivalry (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
Non-GNG callouts:
- Troy lead series 7-5, with last game played in 2014
- Prior AfD outcome was delete in Dec 2014
- UAB cancelled their program and did not field a team in 2015 or 2016, then resumed play in 2017.
- This article was recreated in Oct 2017 [1] with only a winspedia.com citation re the 7-5 series record
- No series games have been either played or scheduled since prior AfD delete
- The two teams are currently in different FBS conferences
WP:NRIVALRY says "Sports rivalries are not inherently notable" and defers to WP:GNG. GNG states "If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to be suitable for a stand-alone article or list." Currently there are zero citations which reference an existing rivalry. The pre-AfD delete version does not establish a rivalry. [2] Current searches do not return significant coverage in independent sources to meet GNG standards ("significant coverage"). There are newer comments and speculation based on the resumption of UAB program, including:
- "Troy coach 'really happy' for Bill Clark, UAB football; expects rivalry to be rekindled" al.com, 2015
- "BIRMINGHAM, AL (WBRC) - A Troy versus UAB football game sounds like a no brainer and an instant rivalry. It was before the Blazers' football program shutdown. The problem is before UAB rebooted the football program, Troy has moved into a different direction without that in-state rivalry." wbrc.com, 2016 (2 paragraph story).
Fails GNG, might be WP:TOOSOON. UW Dawgs ( talk) 20:00, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of American football-related deletion discussions. Gameinfirmary ( talk) 20:14, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Alabama-related deletion discussions. Gameinfirmary ( talk) 20:14, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
- Delete Agree with nominator that it's WP:TOOSOON. The only reference to a rivalry I found is the same article at al.com that the nominator mentioned - and one coach, who's trying to hype his football program, mentioning a 'rivalry' does not a rivalry make. Sorry. Amsgearing ( talk) 20:36, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
- Delete - two teams playing each other 12 times does not (necessarily) equate to a 'rivalry.' In any case, as stated, each rivalry does not require a wikipedia page. I see no special notability here; in fact, it might as well be a speedy delete - no change since the previous AfD. ‡ Єl Cid of áºalencia áT₳LKᬠ20:57, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
- Delete. The last AfD ended in a unanimous "delete" determination in December 2014. Not sure what happened; did the deletion disposition not get acted upon? In any even, no additional games have been played, so I can't imagine what the basis would be for reaching a different result today. Cbl62 ( talk) 21:59, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
- Delete per last decision. Hasn't gotten much more notable since (and lost notability due to UAB's involuntary program hibernation for a few years). Was something not hit that allowed an account to restore, revisions and all? Nate • ( chatter) 00:09, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
- Delete I'm not sure it's even a "rivalry" , certainly not on the scale necessary for inclusion in this encyclopedia. Try another wiki?-- Paul McDonald ( talk) 00:39, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
- Delete - this is just a rivalry between two college sides, and the article is very thin on references. Vorbee ( talk) 15:13, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.