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Apparent advertisement, particularly significant as such right now in advance of an ipo. No references other than routine material on funding, and highly promotional tone throughout. The combination o fvery bborderline notability and clear promotionalism is a sufficient reason for deletion. (I tried rewriting, but there is no sourced material except for the funding, and that does not meet WP:NCORP. ) DGG ( talk ) 17:00, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
- Keep. Yes, the article is poorly written, but sifting thru the usual PR info, one may find multiple coverage at TechCrunch and some pieces of its history are on the Wired: [1]. I also restored a reasonable intro from the history, which was replaces by a cut'n'paste PR-babble, probably by a company's marketroid. Staszek Lem ( talk) 17:46, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
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- It seems every one of the TechCrunch items is a mere notice of funding--and such notices do not count for notability , and they are generally simply copies of the press release. The refs might have passed muster before the current version of
WP:NCORP.
DGG (
talk )
05:18, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
- Maybe this was newly added, but this one is more than a mere notice of funding. I'm not claiming that this is sufficient for notability, but there's more there than you're seeing. Sancho 23:31, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
- It seems every one of the TechCrunch items is a mere notice of funding--and such notices do not count for notability , and they are generally simply copies of the press release. The refs might have passed muster before the current version of
WP:NCORP.
DGG (
talk )
05:18, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
- Keep: Based on at least
this and
this. Could be swayed if these are shown to be non-independent.
Sancho
23:36, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
- @ Sanchom: I don't believe these to be suffiently independent; pls see my comment below. -- K.e.coffman ( talk) 17:43, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
Keep per Sancho \\\Septrillion:- ~~~~ 10 Eleventeen 07:55, 6 July 2018 (UTC)- Keep Various stuff from Danish media: 1, 2, 3 -- Harthacnut ( talk) 10:01, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
- Delete: the sourcing offered above does not meet the new and improved WP:NCORP, being largely PR driven and focused on company's hopes and aspirations ( WP:SPIP). For example:
- Tradeshift goes social with business apps. With more than 200 developers signed up to develop business apps on its platform, Danish electronic business start-up Tradeshift is looking more like Facebook for business than the simple electronic invoicing service that launched last year [2].
- Tradeshift Frontiers innovation lab hopes to drive blockchain adoption in the global supply chain [ [3].
- Emphasis mine. Just promo 'cruft lacking WP:CORPDEPTH. "Hopes to drive" is especially telling; the company has not achieved anything significant just yet and is using Wikipedia for promotion. K.e.coffman ( talk) 17:38, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
- Delete It's an advertisment. I would note that e-invoicing has a history dating back to the 1960s. Any company or technology that has contributed to a major innovation would presumably be documented somewhere other than a press announcement. Here the article says
where (the company's founders) created the world's first large scale peer-to-peer infrastructure for e-business called Easytrade. This innovation was nominated for the European eGovernment Awards in 2009.
- what innovation? Easytrade? Hmm...EDI goes back to at least the 1960s...and the Easytrade article only says itis based on modern internet technologies.
These articles are often orphans or part of a walled garden that link only to other articles affiliated with the company. Most of this article seems to be about Easytrade anyway. — E-business and public sector telecommunications probably is an encyclopedic topic (that we don't have an article about yet). Seraphim System ( talk) 13:35, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ad Orientem ( talk) 02:15, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ad Orientem ( talk) 02:15, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
- Delete None of the references meet the criteria for establishing notability, most are based on company announcements or rely extensively on quotations/interviews. None of the references contain intellectually independent analysis/opinion. References fail WP:CORPDEPTH and/or WP:ORGIND. Topic fails GNG and WP:NCORP. HighKing ++ 10:40, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
- Delete Fails WP:NCORP. \\\Septrillion:- ~~~~ 10 Eleventeen 20:37, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
- Keep - per Staszek Lems rationale. Per plenty of notable references. The article is poorly written indeed but that in itself is not a reason for deletion. Also per WP:GNG. BabbaQ ( talk) 11:39, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
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Apparent advertisement, particularly significant as such right now in advance of an ipo. No references other than routine material on funding, and highly promotional tone throughout. The combination o fvery bborderline notability and clear promotionalism is a sufficient reason for deletion. (I tried rewriting, but there is no sourced material except for the funding, and that does not meet WP:NCORP. ) DGG ( talk ) 17:00, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
- Keep. Yes, the article is poorly written, but sifting thru the usual PR info, one may find multiple coverage at TechCrunch and some pieces of its history are on the Wired: [1]. I also restored a reasonable intro from the history, which was replaces by a cut'n'paste PR-babble, probably by a company's marketroid. Staszek Lem ( talk) 17:46, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 19:35, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
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- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 19:36, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Denmark-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 19:36, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
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19:39, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
- It seems every one of the TechCrunch items is a mere notice of funding--and such notices do not count for notability , and they are generally simply copies of the press release. The refs might have passed muster before the current version of
WP:NCORP.
DGG (
talk )
05:18, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
- Maybe this was newly added, but this one is more than a mere notice of funding. I'm not claiming that this is sufficient for notability, but there's more there than you're seeing. Sancho 23:31, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
- It seems every one of the TechCrunch items is a mere notice of funding--and such notices do not count for notability , and they are generally simply copies of the press release. The refs might have passed muster before the current version of
WP:NCORP.
DGG (
talk )
05:18, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
- Keep: Based on at least
this and
this. Could be swayed if these are shown to be non-independent.
Sancho
23:36, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
- @ Sanchom: I don't believe these to be suffiently independent; pls see my comment below. -- K.e.coffman ( talk) 17:43, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
Keep per Sancho \\\Septrillion:- ~~~~ 10 Eleventeen 07:55, 6 July 2018 (UTC)- Keep Various stuff from Danish media: 1, 2, 3 -- Harthacnut ( talk) 10:01, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
- Delete: the sourcing offered above does not meet the new and improved WP:NCORP, being largely PR driven and focused on company's hopes and aspirations ( WP:SPIP). For example:
- Tradeshift goes social with business apps. With more than 200 developers signed up to develop business apps on its platform, Danish electronic business start-up Tradeshift is looking more like Facebook for business than the simple electronic invoicing service that launched last year [2].
- Tradeshift Frontiers innovation lab hopes to drive blockchain adoption in the global supply chain [ [3].
- Emphasis mine. Just promo 'cruft lacking WP:CORPDEPTH. "Hopes to drive" is especially telling; the company has not achieved anything significant just yet and is using Wikipedia for promotion. K.e.coffman ( talk) 17:38, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
- Delete It's an advertisment. I would note that e-invoicing has a history dating back to the 1960s. Any company or technology that has contributed to a major innovation would presumably be documented somewhere other than a press announcement. Here the article says
where (the company's founders) created the world's first large scale peer-to-peer infrastructure for e-business called Easytrade. This innovation was nominated for the European eGovernment Awards in 2009.
- what innovation? Easytrade? Hmm...EDI goes back to at least the 1960s...and the Easytrade article only says itis based on modern internet technologies.
These articles are often orphans or part of a walled garden that link only to other articles affiliated with the company. Most of this article seems to be about Easytrade anyway. — E-business and public sector telecommunications probably is an encyclopedic topic (that we don't have an article about yet). Seraphim System ( talk) 13:35, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ad Orientem ( talk) 02:15, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ad Orientem ( talk) 02:15, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
- Delete None of the references meet the criteria for establishing notability, most are based on company announcements or rely extensively on quotations/interviews. None of the references contain intellectually independent analysis/opinion. References fail WP:CORPDEPTH and/or WP:ORGIND. Topic fails GNG and WP:NCORP. HighKing ++ 10:40, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
- Delete Fails WP:NCORP. \\\Septrillion:- ~~~~ 10 Eleventeen 20:37, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
- Keep - per Staszek Lems rationale. Per plenty of notable references. The article is poorly written indeed but that in itself is not a reason for deletion. Also per WP:GNG. BabbaQ ( talk) 11:39, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
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