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The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 23:40, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
Tom Zubrycki
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Hopelessly promotional autobiographical spam. Blow it away and let someone independent start over. Note that the author has repeatedly removed the autobiography tag from the page but has self identified as the subject. duffbeerforme ( talk) 09:18, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Actors and filmmakers and Australia. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 09:36, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
- Am in the process of editing entry to make it less 'promotional'. Have added links to film referred to in "writing/directing career". Over the next 7 days will check and add references and citations. I would like to take on board any suggestions to improve this entry. Thanks
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11:30, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
- Your use of promotional in quotes suggest you disagree or don't understand. You need to immediately stop editing this article about yourself, if things have gotten so bad you end up at AfD, the game is up. Read WP:COI right now. You risk not only complete deletion of your Wikipedia profile, but public embarrassment - oh look the guy who got into a pissing match at Wikipedia because he was editing his own article. Duffbeerforme is right, let other people edit the article, this is how Wikipedia works. Wikipedia is not your CV or place in history, it's whatever people besides yourself want to say - that's why it's valuable. You have your own website to write about yourself. There are so many problems with your article clearly you don't understand the norms and rules of Wikipedia, or flaunt them, either way it will not go well for you if you continue this way. -- Green C 15:24, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
- Keep Give the initial state of the article, I can totally see the nom's position. I went ahead and removed everything that doesn't have a reliable secondary source, cutting the article size in half (not quite TNT). I removed all the inline external links to film databases and TZ's website. With all that done, there is still enough evidence of notability per GNG, the topic itself is notable, as was even suggested by the nom ("let someone independent start over"). The article is salvageable, so long as Tom can leave his Wikipedia article alone, even if he doesn't like it, or finds it's incomplete. If Tom has sources he should post them on the talk page with suggested edits. If he continues to edit the article I will report it to the COI Noticeboard. -- Green C 15:24, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Hey man im josh ( talk) 12:35, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
- Keep: The quote from the film encyclopedia seems solid, this also helps [1]. Oaktree b ( talk) 14:23, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 23:40, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
Tom Zubrycki
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Hopelessly promotional autobiographical spam. Blow it away and let someone independent start over. Note that the author has repeatedly removed the autobiography tag from the page but has self identified as the subject. duffbeerforme ( talk) 09:18, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Actors and filmmakers and Australia. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 09:36, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
- Am in the process of editing entry to make it less 'promotional'. Have added links to film referred to in "writing/directing career". Over the next 7 days will check and add references and citations. I would like to take on board any suggestions to improve this entry. Thanks
Tzub (
talk)
11:30, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
- Your use of promotional in quotes suggest you disagree or don't understand. You need to immediately stop editing this article about yourself, if things have gotten so bad you end up at AfD, the game is up. Read WP:COI right now. You risk not only complete deletion of your Wikipedia profile, but public embarrassment - oh look the guy who got into a pissing match at Wikipedia because he was editing his own article. Duffbeerforme is right, let other people edit the article, this is how Wikipedia works. Wikipedia is not your CV or place in history, it's whatever people besides yourself want to say - that's why it's valuable. You have your own website to write about yourself. There are so many problems with your article clearly you don't understand the norms and rules of Wikipedia, or flaunt them, either way it will not go well for you if you continue this way. -- Green C 15:24, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
- Keep Give the initial state of the article, I can totally see the nom's position. I went ahead and removed everything that doesn't have a reliable secondary source, cutting the article size in half (not quite TNT). I removed all the inline external links to film databases and TZ's website. With all that done, there is still enough evidence of notability per GNG, the topic itself is notable, as was even suggested by the nom ("let someone independent start over"). The article is salvageable, so long as Tom can leave his Wikipedia article alone, even if he doesn't like it, or finds it's incomplete. If Tom has sources he should post them on the talk page with suggested edits. If he continues to edit the article I will report it to the COI Noticeboard. -- Green C 15:24, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Hey man im josh ( talk) 12:35, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
- Keep: The quote from the film encyclopedia seems solid, this also helps [1]. Oaktree b ( talk) 14:23, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.