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The result was delete. Randykitty ( talk) 15:54, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
Timeline of the COVID-19 pandemic in Zhejiang (2020)
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This is basically a repeat of the official statements from the Chinese government, not an article based on reliable, independent sources. I don't think a timeline for this region can be made based on such sources though, as the Chinese government tends to be rather controlling. But it is better not to have an article, than to function as the mouthpiece of a government. Fram ( talk) 14:47, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Events, Health and fitness, History, and China. Fram ( talk) 14:47, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
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- Delete - I'm a bit conflicted as I think it would be interesting to see a timeline of the official events as described. On the other hand, I agree with the nom that there is doubt as to the reliability of official Chinese sources on this topic, and the page needs a large amount of work and clean-up to even meet the objectives it has set itself. It feels like there's also an element of WP:OR and WP:SYNTH so for all those reasons I think it is better off being ditched. JMWt ( talk) 15:07, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
- Delete - I found very limited media sources outside of Chinese ones that may contain government influence, which would not suffice in creating a timeline as extensive as the current one. By the way, does anyone know why there is no main Timeline of the COVID-19 pandemic in China? Same problem? Seems all other countries but have it. BurgeoningContracting ( talk) 16:24, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
- Merge the number of cases to COVID-19 pandemic in Zhejiang. This article textual content is basically only the government reported case numbers, which can and should be reported in a table. The rest of the content (the videos) is just minor local news fluff which is not appropriate. Jumpytoo Talk 19:01, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
- Delete Agree with nom. RadioactiveBoulevardier ( talk) 20:33, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
- Delete and also include Timeline of the COVID-19 pandemic in Zhejiang (2021) and Timeline of the COVID-19 pandemic in Zhejiang (2022) (if it survives PROD) so we don't have to do this again. All 3 "articles" are essentially the same, with just a simple collection of statistics and no discussion in secondary sources. Some of the sources might be usable, but I don't agree with merging to COVID-19 pandemic in Zhejiang since there doesn't appear to be any content that's actually salvageable and would need attribution. There don't appear to be any reliable sources that discuss the article topic itself, rather than announcements of one of the confirmed cases which also makes it fail WP:GNG. The Wordsmith Talk to me 01:08, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
- Hello, everybody. This is the article creator. These articles should been put on Wikipedia 2 or 3 years ago by other people, but have not appeared in English until I did so since January of this year. Please talk to users Fixer88 and Rethliopuks, who are more knowledgeable on this topic and have written on it since the first year of the pandemic. I would like to start working on other topics when I finish my part . Ziping53 ( talk) 16:08, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Randykitty ( talk) 15:54, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
Timeline of the COVID-19 pandemic in Zhejiang (2020)
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This is basically a repeat of the official statements from the Chinese government, not an article based on reliable, independent sources. I don't think a timeline for this region can be made based on such sources though, as the Chinese government tends to be rather controlling. But it is better not to have an article, than to function as the mouthpiece of a government. Fram ( talk) 14:47, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Events, Health and fitness, History, and China. Fram ( talk) 14:47, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of COVID-19-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 15:06, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
- Delete - I'm a bit conflicted as I think it would be interesting to see a timeline of the official events as described. On the other hand, I agree with the nom that there is doubt as to the reliability of official Chinese sources on this topic, and the page needs a large amount of work and clean-up to even meet the objectives it has set itself. It feels like there's also an element of WP:OR and WP:SYNTH so for all those reasons I think it is better off being ditched. JMWt ( talk) 15:07, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
- Delete - I found very limited media sources outside of Chinese ones that may contain government influence, which would not suffice in creating a timeline as extensive as the current one. By the way, does anyone know why there is no main Timeline of the COVID-19 pandemic in China? Same problem? Seems all other countries but have it. BurgeoningContracting ( talk) 16:24, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
- Merge the number of cases to COVID-19 pandemic in Zhejiang. This article textual content is basically only the government reported case numbers, which can and should be reported in a table. The rest of the content (the videos) is just minor local news fluff which is not appropriate. Jumpytoo Talk 19:01, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
- Delete Agree with nom. RadioactiveBoulevardier ( talk) 20:33, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
- Delete and also include Timeline of the COVID-19 pandemic in Zhejiang (2021) and Timeline of the COVID-19 pandemic in Zhejiang (2022) (if it survives PROD) so we don't have to do this again. All 3 "articles" are essentially the same, with just a simple collection of statistics and no discussion in secondary sources. Some of the sources might be usable, but I don't agree with merging to COVID-19 pandemic in Zhejiang since there doesn't appear to be any content that's actually salvageable and would need attribution. There don't appear to be any reliable sources that discuss the article topic itself, rather than announcements of one of the confirmed cases which also makes it fail WP:GNG. The Wordsmith Talk to me 01:08, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
- Hello, everybody. This is the article creator. These articles should been put on Wikipedia 2 or 3 years ago by other people, but have not appeared in English until I did so since January of this year. Please talk to users Fixer88 and Rethliopuks, who are more knowledgeable on this topic and have written on it since the first year of the pandemic. I would like to start working on other topics when I finish my part . Ziping53 ( talk) 16:08, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.