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The result was delete. Kurykh ( talk) 06:31, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
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Benson was a college basketball player. Her coverage there is not sufficient to pass our guidelines for college athletes, and she has not played in any professional competitions that would make her notable per our guidelines for basketball players. My search for additional sources didn't come up with anything else that would be a reliable source adding towards GNG. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 01:03, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
- Delete Fails WP:NBASKETBALL and shows no signs of passing WP:GNG. Triptothecottage ( talk) 01:05, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Basketball-related deletion discussions. Triptothecottage ( talk) 01:08, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
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- Question - is the WNBA the only professional league for women included in the WP:NBASKETBALL notability guideline? Hmlarson ( talk) 21:13, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
- Where does the Australian Women's National Basketball League fall as an example? US-based Google News search results 1 Hmlarson ( talk) 18:05, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
- My recommendation if you want to test it that you can take the 11th or 12th player from the bottom 6-8 teams in the standings and see if they meet WP:GNG. The WNBA is heavily covered, so I feel good that it meets that standard. There are actually a number of prominent men's leagues that are not included in the guideline as they didn't seem to meet this standard. Rikster2 ( talk) 18:27, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
- Seems like an odd and rather random suggested measure of notability that is not inline with other sports. See WP:NHOCKEY for example. Hmlarson ( talk) 20:07, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
- It isn't at all. The whole point of sport-specific guidelines are to help editors identify figures who likely would meet WP:GNG. That's the standard for Wikipedia, not any sport achievement or appearance. A person isn't notable because they appeared in a WNBA game. They are likely notable because the level of coverage for that league is such that each player has had significant, continuing coverage in reliable, independent sources over time, which means you can reasonably assume that anyone who has played in that league is notable. Rikster2 ( talk) 22:53, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Kurykh ( talk) 06:31, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
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Benson was a college basketball player. Her coverage there is not sufficient to pass our guidelines for college athletes, and she has not played in any professional competitions that would make her notable per our guidelines for basketball players. My search for additional sources didn't come up with anything else that would be a reliable source adding towards GNG. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 01:03, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
- Delete Fails WP:NBASKETBALL and shows no signs of passing WP:GNG. Triptothecottage ( talk) 01:05, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Basketball-related deletion discussions. Triptothecottage ( talk) 01:08, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Switzerland-related deletion discussions. Triptothecottage ( talk) 01:08, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
- Question - is the WNBA the only professional league for women included in the WP:NBASKETBALL notability guideline? Hmlarson ( talk) 21:13, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
- Where does the Australian Women's National Basketball League fall as an example? US-based Google News search results 1 Hmlarson ( talk) 18:05, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
- My recommendation if you want to test it that you can take the 11th or 12th player from the bottom 6-8 teams in the standings and see if they meet WP:GNG. The WNBA is heavily covered, so I feel good that it meets that standard. There are actually a number of prominent men's leagues that are not included in the guideline as they didn't seem to meet this standard. Rikster2 ( talk) 18:27, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
- Seems like an odd and rather random suggested measure of notability that is not inline with other sports. See WP:NHOCKEY for example. Hmlarson ( talk) 20:07, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
- It isn't at all. The whole point of sport-specific guidelines are to help editors identify figures who likely would meet WP:GNG. That's the standard for Wikipedia, not any sport achievement or appearance. A person isn't notable because they appeared in a WNBA game. They are likely notable because the level of coverage for that league is such that each player has had significant, continuing coverage in reliable, independent sources over time, which means you can reasonably assume that anyone who has played in that league is notable. Rikster2 ( talk) 22:53, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple ( talk) 11:24, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
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