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The result was delete. ℯ xplicit 01:47, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
The Wellness Network
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Was deleted by PROD and then restored. My original PROD reason was "Non-notable non-broadcast TV network. Seems to be an advertising channel but not a notable one. Article is at risk of being a spam magnet too." I think that still applies. Certainly the Google links don't show up much more than PR fluff and few brief mentions of the company being sold in business news. It doesn't have any serious coverage as a TV Network. DanielRigal ( talk) 00:46, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
- Delete. But if it is the organization I am thinking of, they are improving quality of care in hospitals in a significant manner. But they need reliable sources reporting on them in order to receive a Wikipedia article. Knox490 ( talk) 01:03, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
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- I am an employee of The Wellness Network and would like to request that the page remain intact while we update and reference the text. All new material will conform to Wikipedia's editorial guidelines and COI guidelines and will be submitted through the "peer review" process on The Wellness Network's talk page. The company was recently purchased by the WAFRA group and is in a growth phase in its industry, making it a notable and relevant company. The new page will have credible referencing and take a neutral point of view. Please let me know if you have questions or concerns.
JonVanZile (
talk) 17:28, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks for being upfront about this. Unfortunately, I think you are using the word "notable" without realising that we have a specific meaning of it here on Wikipedia. Our focus is on whether something has already been proved notable by already being widely noted while your use seems to be a wider sense of something that deserves to be noted. Maybe I'm not explaining it very well but if you read
WP:N you will get a much better, and official, explanation of what we mean by "notable". We set the bar quite high and not being notable doesn't mean something is bad or undeserving, just that the
reliable sources we go by have not picked up on it to any great extent (yet). In fact we have a lot of articles on things which are notable just for being bad, so having or not having an article is no endorsement of worth. We have an article on
Enron after all. --
DanielRigal (
talk) 19:07, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
- Understood, and again, thanks for my ongoing introduction and education in all things Wikipedia. I read the standards on notability and understand the broad intent: third-party, independent, verifiable, legitimate, and public. These are the same standards we rely on in medical writing (actually, that's more stringent) or journalism. I'm pulling together a source list now and will post references here ASAP so you can take a look and let me know if we clear the bar. If not, we'll submit to the greater Wiki wisdom. JonVanZile ( talk) 19:18, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks for being upfront about this. Unfortunately, I think you are using the word "notable" without realising that we have a specific meaning of it here on Wikipedia. Our focus is on whether something has already been proved notable by already being widely noted while your use seems to be a wider sense of something that deserves to be noted. Maybe I'm not explaining it very well but if you read
WP:N you will get a much better, and official, explanation of what we mean by "notable". We set the bar quite high and not being notable doesn't mean something is bad or undeserving, just that the
reliable sources we go by have not picked up on it to any great extent (yet). In fact we have a lot of articles on things which are notable just for being bad, so having or not having an article is no endorsement of worth. We have an article on
Enron after all. --
DanielRigal (
talk) 19:07, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
- I am an employee of The Wellness Network and would like to request that the page remain intact while we update and reference the text. All new material will conform to Wikipedia's editorial guidelines and COI guidelines and will be submitted through the "peer review" process on The Wellness Network's talk page. The company was recently purchased by the WAFRA group and is in a growth phase in its industry, making it a notable and relevant company. The new page will have credible referencing and take a neutral point of view. Please let me know if you have questions or concerns.
JonVanZile (
talk) 17:28, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – Juliancolton | Talk 02:24, 25 April 2017 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – Juliancolton | Talk 02:24, 25 April 2017 (UTC)
- Weak Keep Took a couple minutes to google The Wellness Network and there are some reliable independent sources. Just added a section on it being purchased by Wafra Partners LLC. Seems the article just needs some work. Cllgbksr ( talk) 03:26, 25 April 2017 (UTC)
- Did you find anything else apart from the purchase? That was all I found when I looked. I didn't see any RS coverage of the thing itself, only minor business coverage of it being sold. It helps to verify but I'm not convinced it is enough to demonstrate notability. DanielRigal ( talk) 13:55, 25 April 2017 (UTC)
- Delete. This article attempts to educate or inform, however, it lacks quality content. There is nothing that is really notable in this article. Bmbaker88 ( talk) 02:17, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
- Delete Fails WP:CORPDEPTH and GNG. Just badly written corporate spam. -- HighKing ++ 12:57, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks for your patience while we are working on this! I'm the content director at The Wellness Network. Here are several independent reliable sources with significant discussion of the company:
- American Association of Diabetes Educators (March 28, 2017). “The Wellness Network (TWN) and American Association of Diabetes Educators (AADE) Release New Patient-Friendly Videos on Managing your Diabetes.” DiabetesEducator.org. Retrieved May 1, 2017.
- American College of Physicians. “The Wellness Network Patient Education & Video Library.” American College of Physicians. Retrieved May 1, 2017.
- American Heart Association (November 6, 2014). “HeartCare Channel to launch in hospitals across the U.S. American Heart Association.” Retrieved May 1, 2017.
- BerkeryNoyes (January 22, 2016). “Wafra Partners LLC Acquires Interactivation Health Networks, LLC, d/b/a The Wellness Network.” Berkery Noyes Investment Bankers. Retrieved May 1, 2017.
- Budniak, Annmarie (March 30, 2017). “Health Media Network and the Wellness Network Announce Strategic Alliance – Partnership Creates Largest Physician Office and hospital Media Footprint in the US.” HiTech Answers. Retrieved May 1, 2017.
- Gibbons, Kent (April 13. 2010). “Interactivation Buys Networks in Hospital Rooms.” Multichannel News. Retrieved May 1, 2017.
- Healthcare IT News (April 14, 2010). “Interactivation Health Networks Acquires iVillage's Patient Channel and Newborn Channel.” HealthCare IT News. Retrieved May 1, 2017.
- HMN News (March 8, 2017). “Health Media Network (HMN) And The Wellness Network (TWN) Announce Strategic Alliance- Partnership Creates Largest Physician Office And Hospital Media Footprint In The U.S.” Health Media Network. Retrieved May 1, 2017.
- Kirchen, Rich (December 11, 2014). “The Wellness Network launches The HeartCare Channel under new partnership.” Milwaukee Business Journal. Retrieved May 1, 2017.
- Kirchen, Rich (January 15, 2016). “The Wellness Network sold to New York private-equity investors.” Milwaukee Business Journal. Retrieved May 1, 2017.
- Mastroni, Nicole (May 8, 2017). “Health Media Network (HMN) And The Wellness Network (TWN) Announce Strategic Alliance- Partnership Creates Largest Physician Office And Hospital Media Footprint In The U.S.” PetCare TV. Retrieved May 1, 2017.
- Tanner Health System. “Patient Channel Information.” Tanner Health System. Retrieved May 1, 2017.
- The Wellness Network (March 28, 2017). “The Wellness Network (TWN) and American Association of Diabetes Educators (AADE) Release New Patient-friendly Videos on Managing Your Diabetes.” NBC2. Retrieved May 1, 2017.
- Yahoo News (February 23, 2011). “Interactivation Health Networks Changes Name to The Wellness Network.”
If the article is kept, I'll work on the talk page with volunteers to generate NPOV content from these sources. JonVanZile (talk) 14:59, 1 May 2017 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MBisanz talk 01:32, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MBisanz talk 01:32, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
- Delete This article needs a rewrite to conform to Wikipedia standards and more independent sources to prove notability. TH1980 ( talk) 01:39, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. ℯ xplicit 01:47, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
The Wellness Network
- The Wellness Network ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
Was deleted by PROD and then restored. My original PROD reason was "Non-notable non-broadcast TV network. Seems to be an advertising channel but not a notable one. Article is at risk of being a spam magnet too." I think that still applies. Certainly the Google links don't show up much more than PR fluff and few brief mentions of the company being sold in business news. It doesn't have any serious coverage as a TV Network. DanielRigal ( talk) 00:46, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
- Delete. But if it is the organization I am thinking of, they are improving quality of care in hospitals in a significant manner. But they need reliable sources reporting on them in order to receive a Wikipedia article. Knox490 ( talk) 01:03, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 00:49, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Medicine-related deletion discussions. DanielRigal ( talk) 00:53, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (✉) 01:19, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
- I am an employee of The Wellness Network and would like to request that the page remain intact while we update and reference the text. All new material will conform to Wikipedia's editorial guidelines and COI guidelines and will be submitted through the "peer review" process on The Wellness Network's talk page. The company was recently purchased by the WAFRA group and is in a growth phase in its industry, making it a notable and relevant company. The new page will have credible referencing and take a neutral point of view. Please let me know if you have questions or concerns.
JonVanZile (
talk) 17:28, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks for being upfront about this. Unfortunately, I think you are using the word "notable" without realising that we have a specific meaning of it here on Wikipedia. Our focus is on whether something has already been proved notable by already being widely noted while your use seems to be a wider sense of something that deserves to be noted. Maybe I'm not explaining it very well but if you read
WP:N you will get a much better, and official, explanation of what we mean by "notable". We set the bar quite high and not being notable doesn't mean something is bad or undeserving, just that the
reliable sources we go by have not picked up on it to any great extent (yet). In fact we have a lot of articles on things which are notable just for being bad, so having or not having an article is no endorsement of worth. We have an article on
Enron after all. --
DanielRigal (
talk) 19:07, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
- Understood, and again, thanks for my ongoing introduction and education in all things Wikipedia. I read the standards on notability and understand the broad intent: third-party, independent, verifiable, legitimate, and public. These are the same standards we rely on in medical writing (actually, that's more stringent) or journalism. I'm pulling together a source list now and will post references here ASAP so you can take a look and let me know if we clear the bar. If not, we'll submit to the greater Wiki wisdom. JonVanZile ( talk) 19:18, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks for being upfront about this. Unfortunately, I think you are using the word "notable" without realising that we have a specific meaning of it here on Wikipedia. Our focus is on whether something has already been proved notable by already being widely noted while your use seems to be a wider sense of something that deserves to be noted. Maybe I'm not explaining it very well but if you read
WP:N you will get a much better, and official, explanation of what we mean by "notable". We set the bar quite high and not being notable doesn't mean something is bad or undeserving, just that the
reliable sources we go by have not picked up on it to any great extent (yet). In fact we have a lot of articles on things which are notable just for being bad, so having or not having an article is no endorsement of worth. We have an article on
Enron after all. --
DanielRigal (
talk) 19:07, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
- I am an employee of The Wellness Network and would like to request that the page remain intact while we update and reference the text. All new material will conform to Wikipedia's editorial guidelines and COI guidelines and will be submitted through the "peer review" process on The Wellness Network's talk page. The company was recently purchased by the WAFRA group and is in a growth phase in its industry, making it a notable and relevant company. The new page will have credible referencing and take a neutral point of view. Please let me know if you have questions or concerns.
JonVanZile (
talk) 17:28, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – Juliancolton | Talk 02:24, 25 April 2017 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – Juliancolton | Talk 02:24, 25 April 2017 (UTC)
- Weak Keep Took a couple minutes to google The Wellness Network and there are some reliable independent sources. Just added a section on it being purchased by Wafra Partners LLC. Seems the article just needs some work. Cllgbksr ( talk) 03:26, 25 April 2017 (UTC)
- Did you find anything else apart from the purchase? That was all I found when I looked. I didn't see any RS coverage of the thing itself, only minor business coverage of it being sold. It helps to verify but I'm not convinced it is enough to demonstrate notability. DanielRigal ( talk) 13:55, 25 April 2017 (UTC)
- Delete. This article attempts to educate or inform, however, it lacks quality content. There is nothing that is really notable in this article. Bmbaker88 ( talk) 02:17, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
- Delete Fails WP:CORPDEPTH and GNG. Just badly written corporate spam. -- HighKing ++ 12:57, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks for your patience while we are working on this! I'm the content director at The Wellness Network. Here are several independent reliable sources with significant discussion of the company:
- American Association of Diabetes Educators (March 28, 2017). “The Wellness Network (TWN) and American Association of Diabetes Educators (AADE) Release New Patient-Friendly Videos on Managing your Diabetes.” DiabetesEducator.org. Retrieved May 1, 2017.
- American College of Physicians. “The Wellness Network Patient Education & Video Library.” American College of Physicians. Retrieved May 1, 2017.
- American Heart Association (November 6, 2014). “HeartCare Channel to launch in hospitals across the U.S. American Heart Association.” Retrieved May 1, 2017.
- BerkeryNoyes (January 22, 2016). “Wafra Partners LLC Acquires Interactivation Health Networks, LLC, d/b/a The Wellness Network.” Berkery Noyes Investment Bankers. Retrieved May 1, 2017.
- Budniak, Annmarie (March 30, 2017). “Health Media Network and the Wellness Network Announce Strategic Alliance – Partnership Creates Largest Physician Office and hospital Media Footprint in the US.” HiTech Answers. Retrieved May 1, 2017.
- Gibbons, Kent (April 13. 2010). “Interactivation Buys Networks in Hospital Rooms.” Multichannel News. Retrieved May 1, 2017.
- Healthcare IT News (April 14, 2010). “Interactivation Health Networks Acquires iVillage's Patient Channel and Newborn Channel.” HealthCare IT News. Retrieved May 1, 2017.
- HMN News (March 8, 2017). “Health Media Network (HMN) And The Wellness Network (TWN) Announce Strategic Alliance- Partnership Creates Largest Physician Office And Hospital Media Footprint In The U.S.” Health Media Network. Retrieved May 1, 2017.
- Kirchen, Rich (December 11, 2014). “The Wellness Network launches The HeartCare Channel under new partnership.” Milwaukee Business Journal. Retrieved May 1, 2017.
- Kirchen, Rich (January 15, 2016). “The Wellness Network sold to New York private-equity investors.” Milwaukee Business Journal. Retrieved May 1, 2017.
- Mastroni, Nicole (May 8, 2017). “Health Media Network (HMN) And The Wellness Network (TWN) Announce Strategic Alliance- Partnership Creates Largest Physician Office And Hospital Media Footprint In The U.S.” PetCare TV. Retrieved May 1, 2017.
- Tanner Health System. “Patient Channel Information.” Tanner Health System. Retrieved May 1, 2017.
- The Wellness Network (March 28, 2017). “The Wellness Network (TWN) and American Association of Diabetes Educators (AADE) Release New Patient-friendly Videos on Managing Your Diabetes.” NBC2. Retrieved May 1, 2017.
- Yahoo News (February 23, 2011). “Interactivation Health Networks Changes Name to The Wellness Network.”
If the article is kept, I'll work on the talk page with volunteers to generate NPOV content from these sources. JonVanZile (talk) 14:59, 1 May 2017 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MBisanz talk 01:32, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MBisanz talk 01:32, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
- Delete This article needs a rewrite to conform to Wikipedia standards and more independent sources to prove notability. TH1980 ( talk) 01:39, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.