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The result was delete. No prejudice for anyone creating a redirect with the same name. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 12:26, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
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Building has not significant nobility. Fails WP:GEOFEAT CASSIOPEIA( talk) 10:10, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Baby miss fortune 10:28, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
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- Delete - not even a whole lot of trivial mentions, nothing outside the very local area, and all are pretty WP:ROUTINE (e.g. the building is being painted by... ). There was the single nice article which is included on the page, but nothing beyond that. Onel5969 TT me 13:34, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
- Redirect or merge [was: Merge or redirect] is highly preferable, for currently-very-short-articles-on-topics-that-could-easily-be-notable-but-no-one-seems-that-interested-in-developing. We should strive for wp:ATD? (alternatives to deletion). For universities, it is often/usually good to have a corresponding list or two or three of university buildings, which then serve as good alternatives to creation of separate marginal articles. In this case, according to the UIUC navigation template, there exists list-article UIUC Residence Halls. The list-article does not mention The Tower at Third. This list-article appears to be an appropriate merge target. -- Doncram ( talk) 04:39, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
- Comment As per the university website on resident hall, that is no mention of The Tower of Third is part of University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign resident hall or it belong to the university - see here [1], [2] and . [3]. From [4], [5] and [6], it seems the building belongs to private owner but close to the campus where students might choose to rent there, but it is not part of the university property - see here the campus building map and listing of the resident halls (2nd page) [7]. Thank you.
- Righto, the excellent 2006 article about the building confirms it is privately owned and states "Today, the building is mostly student apartments, with 145 two-bedroom units, two singles and one triple. The building is 100 percent occupied, according to property manager Lesley Chouinard, with almost 300 students, most of whom go to the University of Illinois and call The Tower at Third home." However it can/should still be mentioned in the UIUC Residence Halls article (with clear explanation that it is privately owned). Also it is mentioned, with this 2006 source, at Champaign,_Illinois#Campustown and it is mentioned several times in Campustown (Champaign, Illinois) and is item number 4 in the list of buildings there. Redirect to coverage there seems appropriate. Redirect or merge outcome preserves the edit history and allows for a separate article to be re-created later if/when there is more coverage. -- Doncram ( talk) 14:38, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
- Thank for the info Doncram, To merge into Champaign,_Illinois#Campustown and Campustown (Champaign, Illinois) seems yield not much benefit but would preserve maybe 4 initial edits for of the articles above have pretty much the same information if not more than The Tower at Third. As a rental property building, to meets WP:GEOFEAT in the near future seems unlikely. However, it is much clearly, Tower at 3rd is not part of the university resident hall. CASSIOPEIA( talk) 16:10, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
- Delete. not even appropriate or a redirect, and there is no clear target. DGG ( talk ) 11:43, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Delete or redirect? And where to?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 21:58, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
Relisting comment: Delete or redirect? And where to?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 21:58, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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The result was delete. No prejudice for anyone creating a redirect with the same name. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 12:26, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
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Building has not significant nobility. Fails WP:GEOFEAT CASSIOPEIA( talk) 10:10, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Baby miss fortune 10:28, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. Baby miss fortune 10:28, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Illinois-related deletion discussions. Baby miss fortune 10:28, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
- Delete - not even a whole lot of trivial mentions, nothing outside the very local area, and all are pretty WP:ROUTINE (e.g. the building is being painted by... ). There was the single nice article which is included on the page, but nothing beyond that. Onel5969 TT me 13:34, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
- Redirect or merge [was: Merge or redirect] is highly preferable, for currently-very-short-articles-on-topics-that-could-easily-be-notable-but-no-one-seems-that-interested-in-developing. We should strive for wp:ATD? (alternatives to deletion). For universities, it is often/usually good to have a corresponding list or two or three of university buildings, which then serve as good alternatives to creation of separate marginal articles. In this case, according to the UIUC navigation template, there exists list-article UIUC Residence Halls. The list-article does not mention The Tower at Third. This list-article appears to be an appropriate merge target. -- Doncram ( talk) 04:39, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
- Comment As per the university website on resident hall, that is no mention of The Tower of Third is part of University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign resident hall or it belong to the university - see here [1], [2] and . [3]. From [4], [5] and [6], it seems the building belongs to private owner but close to the campus where students might choose to rent there, but it is not part of the university property - see here the campus building map and listing of the resident halls (2nd page) [7]. Thank you.
- Righto, the excellent 2006 article about the building confirms it is privately owned and states "Today, the building is mostly student apartments, with 145 two-bedroom units, two singles and one triple. The building is 100 percent occupied, according to property manager Lesley Chouinard, with almost 300 students, most of whom go to the University of Illinois and call The Tower at Third home." However it can/should still be mentioned in the UIUC Residence Halls article (with clear explanation that it is privately owned). Also it is mentioned, with this 2006 source, at Champaign,_Illinois#Campustown and it is mentioned several times in Campustown (Champaign, Illinois) and is item number 4 in the list of buildings there. Redirect to coverage there seems appropriate. Redirect or merge outcome preserves the edit history and allows for a separate article to be re-created later if/when there is more coverage. -- Doncram ( talk) 14:38, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
- Thank for the info Doncram, To merge into Champaign,_Illinois#Campustown and Campustown (Champaign, Illinois) seems yield not much benefit but would preserve maybe 4 initial edits for of the articles above have pretty much the same information if not more than The Tower at Third. As a rental property building, to meets WP:GEOFEAT in the near future seems unlikely. However, it is much clearly, Tower at 3rd is not part of the university resident hall. CASSIOPEIA( talk) 16:10, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
- Delete. not even appropriate or a redirect, and there is no clear target. DGG ( talk ) 11:43, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Delete or redirect? And where to?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 21:58, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
Relisting comment: Delete or redirect? And where to?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 21:58, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.