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Pure PR. The article has only extensive promotional sections of buzz-words on the importance off the problems it deal with, and very extensive name dropping. There are almost no third party sources. If there should be sources for notability , it would need to be done over from scratch. It was just as bad when it was accepted from AfC. DGG (
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06:01, 9 March 2021 (UTC)reply
Comment This may be one of the areas where "notability" and "importance" diverge. This event is likely highly important, at least to high level policy people in Europe (I am a policy analyst in the USA, but I have no connection to this event or anyone associated with it, else I wouldn't be commenting at all). The problem is that these sorts of events tend to produce a lot of useful and important discussions, but they are rarely covered in the popular press. These discussions are usually in policyspeak, a creole of the local language, high academia, and legalese. Possible reliable sources might be found in various think tanks, academic journals, and possibly intellectual political periodicals. As it currently stands, the article appears to be sourced entirely from documents produced at or for the event.
That being said, I did a quick Google Scholar search and found at least a few external sources reporting on the event. I found a keynote address at the event published in the International Journal of Constitutional Law [1], for example. There is also this article from the College of William and Mary Law School [2]. I also found local coverage in the Florence Daily News [3]. Honestly, there's plenty of search engine hits in both Google and Google Scholar, the real difficulty is distinguishing between the many many many documents that are just the texts of speeches and pressntations to find second-party sources like newspapers and such. It's a tricky situation, because this event has almost certainly...well, depending on your viewpoint either greatly affected stakeholder decisions in the EU that have affected hundreds of millions of people, or created excellent employment opportunities for policy analysts in the EU. The news article from William and Mary definitely lays out the importance, it's just the difficulty of finding more sources like it.
Hyperion35 (
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18:33, 9 March 2021 (UTC)reply
Keep, definitely delete is not an option here to fix the issues raised. The article needs heavy cleanup but can be kept.
Chirota (
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15:45, 6 April 2021 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
Pure PR. The article has only extensive promotional sections of buzz-words on the importance off the problems it deal with, and very extensive name dropping. There are almost no third party sources. If there should be sources for notability , it would need to be done over from scratch. It was just as bad when it was accepted from AfC. DGG (
talk )
06:01, 9 March 2021 (UTC)reply
Comment This may be one of the areas where "notability" and "importance" diverge. This event is likely highly important, at least to high level policy people in Europe (I am a policy analyst in the USA, but I have no connection to this event or anyone associated with it, else I wouldn't be commenting at all). The problem is that these sorts of events tend to produce a lot of useful and important discussions, but they are rarely covered in the popular press. These discussions are usually in policyspeak, a creole of the local language, high academia, and legalese. Possible reliable sources might be found in various think tanks, academic journals, and possibly intellectual political periodicals. As it currently stands, the article appears to be sourced entirely from documents produced at or for the event.
That being said, I did a quick Google Scholar search and found at least a few external sources reporting on the event. I found a keynote address at the event published in the International Journal of Constitutional Law [1], for example. There is also this article from the College of William and Mary Law School [2]. I also found local coverage in the Florence Daily News [3]. Honestly, there's plenty of search engine hits in both Google and Google Scholar, the real difficulty is distinguishing between the many many many documents that are just the texts of speeches and pressntations to find second-party sources like newspapers and such. It's a tricky situation, because this event has almost certainly...well, depending on your viewpoint either greatly affected stakeholder decisions in the EU that have affected hundreds of millions of people, or created excellent employment opportunities for policy analysts in the EU. The news article from William and Mary definitely lays out the importance, it's just the difficulty of finding more sources like it.
Hyperion35 (
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18:33, 9 March 2021 (UTC)reply
Keep, definitely delete is not an option here to fix the issues raised. The article needs heavy cleanup but can be kept.
Chirota (
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15:45, 6 April 2021 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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