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The result was keep. Nomination withdrawn. ( non-admin closure) -- Alex TW 03:40, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
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The Simpsons (season 30)
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Article needs to be draftified; one aired episode and a single table does not make for a whole article, when the article can be expanded in the draft space and the table can exist at List of The Simpsons episodes. -- Alex TW 16:10, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
- Keep I really don't see why this shouldn't be kept, got all the other season pages, although it's a bit heavy of citations from twitter I am sure it will be populated quickly over the next few weeks and sorted out. WP:GNG isn't quite there. Govvy ( talk) 16:18, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
- @ Govvy: So, we should only keep it for a... complete set? Populating it is what the draft space is for. -- Alex TW 16:24, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
- Comments Firstly merging makes no sense whatsoever, the content is already listed in that list article!! Secondly, all the previous seasons were never in built in draft space, they were open in main space and this allowed everyone to come and edit it. Govvy ( talk) 16:36, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
- Firstly, it's transcluded, not included. There's a difference, I'm happy to link you to the explanation if you don't know what that is. Delete the article and the table won't be in the list anymore, hence the merge. Secondly, "other stuff exists/existed" is not a valid argument, never has been. Notices on talk pages also allow everyone to come and edit it. --
Alex
TW
16:39, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
- Didn't know it was transcluded, makes even more sense to leave as is to me now and Keep so as not to screw around with what works. Govvy ( talk) 16:46, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
- Firstly, it's transcluded, not included. There's a difference, I'm happy to link you to the explanation if you don't know what that is. Delete the article and the table won't be in the list anymore, hence the merge. Secondly, "other stuff exists/existed" is not a valid argument, never has been. Notices on talk pages also allow everyone to come and edit it. --
Alex
TW
16:39, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 17:29, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 17:29, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
- Keep - There has never been a requirement that a season article has to have more than what this article contains. It's desirable but not mandatory and the proposer has been around long enough to know that. I've supported redirection or deletion of articles that don't meet the minimum that we expect, and I've redirected plenty myself. The general consensus is that season articles have substantial content outside of an episode table or a sourced episode table. The article has a sourced episode table supported by 25 sources so there is no real justification in deleting it. "I don't like it" is not a valid reason to delete. -- AussieLegend ( ✉) 17:57, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
- Keep - Per AussieLegend ( talk · contribs) argument above and general consensus.
- Keep per Aussie's explanation above. Amaury ( talk | contribs) 18:03, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
- Keep No reason for deletion given. Being a stub isn't a reason for deletion, and we wouldn't draftify an article on the 2018 NFL season because only one game had been played. power~enwiki ( π, ν) 18:24, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
- Keep – might not be WP:TOOSOON, as there is one episode aired. Now, if it was The Simpsons (season 35) or something like that, then I'd say delete, but I think this is not too far into the future (actually present). Semi Hypercube ✎ 20:18, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
- Keep Obviously notable, yet another AfD that is a complete waste of editors' time. I literally spend more time commenting on frivolous AfD's these days than I do actually editing productively. Perhaps something needs to be done to crack down on those who waste everybody's time.
Smartyllama (
talk)
20:39, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
- Obviously an editor who isn't here to contribute, just make accusations,waiting everyone's time. I look forward to citing this AFD for further articles created with a singular table. -- Alex TW 01:41, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
- Keep There will be more episodes added as time goes on. David O. Johnson ( talk) 20:55, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
- Keep Ongoing season that barring impossible events will continue to air all its episodes. Nate • ( chatter) 01:00, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
- Speedy keep - season has already started airing, and the rationale provided by the nominator would mean this would back into the article space pretty soon anyway (which would be a total waste of time). This page can and should be worked on in the state its in now. This isn't a case of WP:TOOSOON or anything even close to the sort.— Mythdon ( talk • contribs) 03:31, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
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The result was keep. Nomination withdrawn. ( non-admin closure) -- Alex TW 03:40, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
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The Simpsons (season 30)
- The Simpsons (season 30) ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)
- (Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
Article needs to be draftified; one aired episode and a single table does not make for a whole article, when the article can be expanded in the draft space and the table can exist at List of The Simpsons episodes. -- Alex TW 16:10, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
- Keep I really don't see why this shouldn't be kept, got all the other season pages, although it's a bit heavy of citations from twitter I am sure it will be populated quickly over the next few weeks and sorted out. WP:GNG isn't quite there. Govvy ( talk) 16:18, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
- @ Govvy: So, we should only keep it for a... complete set? Populating it is what the draft space is for. -- Alex TW 16:24, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
- Comments Firstly merging makes no sense whatsoever, the content is already listed in that list article!! Secondly, all the previous seasons were never in built in draft space, they were open in main space and this allowed everyone to come and edit it. Govvy ( talk) 16:36, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
- Firstly, it's transcluded, not included. There's a difference, I'm happy to link you to the explanation if you don't know what that is. Delete the article and the table won't be in the list anymore, hence the merge. Secondly, "other stuff exists/existed" is not a valid argument, never has been. Notices on talk pages also allow everyone to come and edit it. --
Alex
TW
16:39, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
- Didn't know it was transcluded, makes even more sense to leave as is to me now and Keep so as not to screw around with what works. Govvy ( talk) 16:46, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
- Firstly, it's transcluded, not included. There's a difference, I'm happy to link you to the explanation if you don't know what that is. Delete the article and the table won't be in the list anymore, hence the merge. Secondly, "other stuff exists/existed" is not a valid argument, never has been. Notices on talk pages also allow everyone to come and edit it. --
Alex
TW
16:39, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 17:29, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 17:29, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
- Keep - There has never been a requirement that a season article has to have more than what this article contains. It's desirable but not mandatory and the proposer has been around long enough to know that. I've supported redirection or deletion of articles that don't meet the minimum that we expect, and I've redirected plenty myself. The general consensus is that season articles have substantial content outside of an episode table or a sourced episode table. The article has a sourced episode table supported by 25 sources so there is no real justification in deleting it. "I don't like it" is not a valid reason to delete. -- AussieLegend ( ✉) 17:57, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
- Keep - Per AussieLegend ( talk · contribs) argument above and general consensus.
- Keep per Aussie's explanation above. Amaury ( talk | contribs) 18:03, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
- Keep No reason for deletion given. Being a stub isn't a reason for deletion, and we wouldn't draftify an article on the 2018 NFL season because only one game had been played. power~enwiki ( π, ν) 18:24, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
- Keep – might not be WP:TOOSOON, as there is one episode aired. Now, if it was The Simpsons (season 35) or something like that, then I'd say delete, but I think this is not too far into the future (actually present). Semi Hypercube ✎ 20:18, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
- Keep Obviously notable, yet another AfD that is a complete waste of editors' time. I literally spend more time commenting on frivolous AfD's these days than I do actually editing productively. Perhaps something needs to be done to crack down on those who waste everybody's time.
Smartyllama (
talk)
20:39, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
- Obviously an editor who isn't here to contribute, just make accusations,waiting everyone's time. I look forward to citing this AFD for further articles created with a singular table. -- Alex TW 01:41, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
- Keep There will be more episodes added as time goes on. David O. Johnson ( talk) 20:55, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
- Keep Ongoing season that barring impossible events will continue to air all its episodes. Nate • ( chatter) 01:00, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
- Speedy keep - season has already started airing, and the rationale provided by the nominator would mean this would back into the article space pretty soon anyway (which would be a total waste of time). This page can and should be worked on in the state its in now. This isn't a case of WP:TOOSOON or anything even close to the sort.— Mythdon ( talk • contribs) 03:31, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.