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The result was redirect to Adam Watson (scientist)#The Place Names of Upper Deeside. And possibly merge content from history. I believe this compromise outcome is most reflective of this discussion. Sandstein 09:17, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
- I've completed the merger in my capacity as an editor. Sandstein 09:24, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
The Place Names of Upper Deeside
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Completely unreferenced articles about local interest history books by a non-notable author, offering no reason why either of them could be considered to pass WP:NBOOK. Both articles, further, make unreferenced claims about translation or pronunciation errors in the author's research -- but as always, Wikipedia is not a place to publish your own original research criticism of other people's work: if reliable sources could be shown that have already criticized the work's accuracy on the record, then we could quote short passages of criticism from those sources so long as they were attributed to those sources and not just stated as facts, but in the absence of such sources it's not our role to criticize so much as one misplaced comma of anybody's writing in our own editorial voice. Bearcat ( talk) 20:51, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
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Delete per nom and NBOOK. Not too big a surprise that this tome didn't get reviewed.Clarityfiend ( talk) 06:09, 5 May 2019 (UTC)- Delete As per WP:NBOOK Angryskies ( talk) 17:43, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
- Delete - Neither of these articles suggest that they are covering a notable book and I can see nothing to indicate either has the significance that would be needed to justify them have an article of their own. Dunarc ( talk) 18:51, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
- Delete Fails WP:NBOOK and WP:GNG. Germcrow ( talk) 19:34, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
- Keep
The Place Names of Upper Deeside, now cleaned-up, expanded and sourced. The nomination is deeply flawed, it does not even find the correct author,
Adam Watson (scientist), where the book already had its own section! This AFD is a textbook example of lack of
due dilligence. There's simply no way to miss the search results with a string like The Place Names of Upper Deeside if one does any searching. As for
The Cairngorms that had an incoming link from
Adam Watson (scientist) at the
time of nomination, I do not have the time to source it now, but the title is a perfectly valid {{
R from book}}, so for now that's a Redirect to
Adam Watson (scientist). Sam Sailor 15:35, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, T. Canens ( talk) 01:32, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
- KEEP per WP:HEY. FOARP ( talk) 08:05, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
- Redirect to Adam Watson (scientist) where the book is already covered - not notable enough for a stand-alone article - Epinoia ( talk) 16:45, 16 May 2019 (UTC)
Relisting comment: It's a bit unclear so far how each article should be dealt with - there are claims of notability, but it's not so clear what they are based of.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk, contributions) 09:11, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
- Keep, a richly-sourced little article, and certainly an important sidelight on Watson's life. No problem with notability. Chiswick Chap ( talk) 19:35, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
- Redirect The book does not seem notable in its own right, so redirect to the author's page. Cwmhiraeth ( talk) 12:35, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
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The result was redirect to Adam Watson (scientist)#The Place Names of Upper Deeside. And possibly merge content from history. I believe this compromise outcome is most reflective of this discussion. Sandstein 09:17, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
- I've completed the merger in my capacity as an editor. Sandstein 09:24, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
The Place Names of Upper Deeside
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Completely unreferenced articles about local interest history books by a non-notable author, offering no reason why either of them could be considered to pass WP:NBOOK. Both articles, further, make unreferenced claims about translation or pronunciation errors in the author's research -- but as always, Wikipedia is not a place to publish your own original research criticism of other people's work: if reliable sources could be shown that have already criticized the work's accuracy on the record, then we could quote short passages of criticism from those sources so long as they were attributed to those sources and not just stated as facts, but in the absence of such sources it's not our role to criticize so much as one misplaced comma of anybody's writing in our own editorial voice. Bearcat ( talk) 20:51, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple ( talk) 23:28, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Scotland-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple ( talk) 23:28, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Language-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple ( talk) 23:28, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
Delete per nom and NBOOK. Not too big a surprise that this tome didn't get reviewed.Clarityfiend ( talk) 06:09, 5 May 2019 (UTC)- Delete As per WP:NBOOK Angryskies ( talk) 17:43, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
- Delete - Neither of these articles suggest that they are covering a notable book and I can see nothing to indicate either has the significance that would be needed to justify them have an article of their own. Dunarc ( talk) 18:51, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
- Delete Fails WP:NBOOK and WP:GNG. Germcrow ( talk) 19:34, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
- Keep
The Place Names of Upper Deeside, now cleaned-up, expanded and sourced. The nomination is deeply flawed, it does not even find the correct author,
Adam Watson (scientist), where the book already had its own section! This AFD is a textbook example of lack of
due dilligence. There's simply no way to miss the search results with a string like The Place Names of Upper Deeside if one does any searching. As for
The Cairngorms that had an incoming link from
Adam Watson (scientist) at the
time of nomination, I do not have the time to source it now, but the title is a perfectly valid {{
R from book}}, so for now that's a Redirect to
Adam Watson (scientist). Sam Sailor 15:35, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, T. Canens ( talk) 01:32, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
- KEEP per WP:HEY. FOARP ( talk) 08:05, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
- Redirect to Adam Watson (scientist) where the book is already covered - not notable enough for a stand-alone article - Epinoia ( talk) 16:45, 16 May 2019 (UTC)
Relisting comment: It's a bit unclear so far how each article should be dealt with - there are claims of notability, but it's not so clear what they are based of.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk, contributions) 09:11, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
- Keep, a richly-sourced little article, and certainly an important sidelight on Watson's life. No problem with notability. Chiswick Chap ( talk) 19:35, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
- Redirect The book does not seem notable in its own right, so redirect to the author's page. Cwmhiraeth ( talk) 12:35, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.