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The result was keep. ( non-admin closure) Natg 19 ( talk) 08:38, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky Third Chapter
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Fancruft-filled and I do not see a claim to significance. Mr. Guye ( talk) 15:34, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
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- Comment - There is a The Legend of Heroes and a Trails in the Sky articles in existence, so at worst, it should be a redirect or merge. Deletion isn't the right route for something with multiple logical redirect targets. Haven't done searching to see if there's enough out there for a "Keep". Sergecross73 msg me 02:15, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
Merge into The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky - Along with the two other games in this sub-series, there is sufficient notability, but I doubt there are enough sources for standalone articles. ☺ · Salvidrim! · ✉ 16:46, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
- I wouldn't advocate that for the first two. I created the second one - it's received a ton of coverage because they're translating it to English, and it's pretty much the last English PSP game. Definitely doesn't warrant a merge. The first one was translated and released already, and definitely has enough coverage. ( http://www.metacritic.com/game/psp/the-legend-of-heroes-trails-in-the-sky ) Sergecross73 msg me 20:06, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
- Keep - Good rescue work by Sergecross73. ☺ · Salvidrim! · ✉ 17:05, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
- Keep - Plenty of coverage in reliable third party sources. (It also goes by the subtitle "The Third", or "Sora No Kiseki", it's Japanese name, FYI.)
- http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/loh/loh6.htm
- http://www.siliconera.com/2013/03/15/the-legend-of-heroes-trails-in-the-sky-the-third-hd-edition-set-for-june-on-ps3/
- http://gematsu.com/2013/03/the-legend-of-heroes-trails-in-the-sky-the-3rd-hd-edition-announced-for-playstation-3
- http://www.polygon.com/2013/2/21/4012678/the-legend-of-heroes-trails-in-the-sky-trilogy-coming-to-windows-8-in
- http://www.siliconera.com/2014/01/14/falcom-will-put-legend-heroes-trails-sky-3rd-psplus-japan/
- http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2013-03-16/legend-of-heroes/trails-in-the-sky-3-goes-hd-on-ps3
- http://dengekionline.com/elem/000/000/613/613238/
- http://www.polygon.com/forums/the-legend-of-heroes-trails-in-the-sky/2012/12/16/3773140/wth-is-trails-in-the-sky-an-introduction-to-the-trails-series
- http://www.siliconera.com/2012/09/27/the-legend-of-heroes-trails-in-the-sky-psp-vs-playstation-3/ Sergecross73 msg me 00:55, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
- Comment - I've entirely rewritten the article, and reworked many sources into the article. It's still not great, but its a far cry from the bare-bones, unreferenced version at the time of nomination. Sergecross73 msg me 16:44, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
- Strong keep, as User:Sergecross73 has added a large number of RS to the article and there is no longer any doubt that it meets the GNG. Satellizer (´ ･ ω ･ `) 12:13, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
- Weak keep. A case of what to do before coming to AfD. While the sourcing wasn't available in a WP:VG/RS search alone, there is certainly significant coverage for the general notability guideline with the expanded search terms (except that Polygon forums link, which should be struck as user-generated and unreliable). However, the sourcing is hella weak, with not nearly enough for a full-featured article as of now. As such, I would recommend a merge to the series article when the editors are ready. As for this AfD, the consensus is a clear keep with a notice to the nominator to consider redirection to a quality redirect target (the series) before engaging AfD. czar ♔ 16:57, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
- Oops, hadn't noticed the forum link. It didn't look like it when I looked at it on a mobile phone. Oh well, I don't believe I ever used it in the actual article clean up. And yeah, I was going to say something to the nominator, but it looks like he's been warned up and down his talk page about flawed deletion nominations...so I didn't bother, I think he probably knows by now. Sergecross73 msg me 19:47, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
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The result was keep. ( non-admin closure) Natg 19 ( talk) 08:38, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky Third Chapter
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Fancruft-filled and I do not see a claim to significance. Mr. Guye ( talk) 15:34, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of video game-related deletion discussions. ( G· N· B· S· RS· Talk) • Gene93k ( talk) 02:06, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Software-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 02:06, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
- Comment - There is a The Legend of Heroes and a Trails in the Sky articles in existence, so at worst, it should be a redirect or merge. Deletion isn't the right route for something with multiple logical redirect targets. Haven't done searching to see if there's enough out there for a "Keep". Sergecross73 msg me 02:15, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
Merge into The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky - Along with the two other games in this sub-series, there is sufficient notability, but I doubt there are enough sources for standalone articles. ☺ · Salvidrim! · ✉ 16:46, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
- I wouldn't advocate that for the first two. I created the second one - it's received a ton of coverage because they're translating it to English, and it's pretty much the last English PSP game. Definitely doesn't warrant a merge. The first one was translated and released already, and definitely has enough coverage. ( http://www.metacritic.com/game/psp/the-legend-of-heroes-trails-in-the-sky ) Sergecross73 msg me 20:06, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
- Keep - Good rescue work by Sergecross73. ☺ · Salvidrim! · ✉ 17:05, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
- Keep - Plenty of coverage in reliable third party sources. (It also goes by the subtitle "The Third", or "Sora No Kiseki", it's Japanese name, FYI.)
- http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/loh/loh6.htm
- http://www.siliconera.com/2013/03/15/the-legend-of-heroes-trails-in-the-sky-the-third-hd-edition-set-for-june-on-ps3/
- http://gematsu.com/2013/03/the-legend-of-heroes-trails-in-the-sky-the-3rd-hd-edition-announced-for-playstation-3
- http://www.polygon.com/2013/2/21/4012678/the-legend-of-heroes-trails-in-the-sky-trilogy-coming-to-windows-8-in
- http://www.siliconera.com/2014/01/14/falcom-will-put-legend-heroes-trails-sky-3rd-psplus-japan/
- http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2013-03-16/legend-of-heroes/trails-in-the-sky-3-goes-hd-on-ps3
- http://dengekionline.com/elem/000/000/613/613238/
- http://www.polygon.com/forums/the-legend-of-heroes-trails-in-the-sky/2012/12/16/3773140/wth-is-trails-in-the-sky-an-introduction-to-the-trails-series
- http://www.siliconera.com/2012/09/27/the-legend-of-heroes-trails-in-the-sky-psp-vs-playstation-3/ Sergecross73 msg me 00:55, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
- Comment - I've entirely rewritten the article, and reworked many sources into the article. It's still not great, but its a far cry from the bare-bones, unreferenced version at the time of nomination. Sergecross73 msg me 16:44, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
- Strong keep, as User:Sergecross73 has added a large number of RS to the article and there is no longer any doubt that it meets the GNG. Satellizer (´ ･ ω ･ `) 12:13, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
- Weak keep. A case of what to do before coming to AfD. While the sourcing wasn't available in a WP:VG/RS search alone, there is certainly significant coverage for the general notability guideline with the expanded search terms (except that Polygon forums link, which should be struck as user-generated and unreliable). However, the sourcing is hella weak, with not nearly enough for a full-featured article as of now. As such, I would recommend a merge to the series article when the editors are ready. As for this AfD, the consensus is a clear keep with a notice to the nominator to consider redirection to a quality redirect target (the series) before engaging AfD. czar ♔ 16:57, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
- Oops, hadn't noticed the forum link. It didn't look like it when I looked at it on a mobile phone. Oh well, I don't believe I ever used it in the actual article clean up. And yeah, I was going to say something to the nominator, but it looks like he's been warned up and down his talk page about flawed deletion nominations...so I didn't bother, I think he probably knows by now. Sergecross73 msg me 19:47, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
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