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The result was delete. Prev close script error. Keep lack policy basis and fail to address the fundamental delete argument that this lacks sources to demonstrate notability.
SpartazHumbug! 06:23, 23 February 2018 (UTC)reply
No demonstration of notability. Cannot find independent in-depth coverage in reliable sources - lack of
WP:SIGCOV. Only founded in 2016 - fails
WP:SUSTAINED.
Edwardx (
talk) 23:58, 15 February 2018 (UTC)reply
Delete. None of the references in the article are
WP:RS. This comes pretty close to
WP:A7 material. --
RoySmith(talk) 00:54, 16 February 2018 (UTC)reply
Comment Did seriously consider a speedy, but the article looks to have been created in good faith, so thought I'd give people a chance to find better sources. Nonetheless, would be amazed if this does not get deleted.
Edwardx (
talk) 01:02, 16 February 2018 (UTC)reply
Keep. This page acts as both a student organisation page as well as a podcast page. Other podcasts, see
The Greatest Generation (podcast) have not been faced scrutiny for
WP:SUSTAINED, which debuted in roughly the same time remain so the criteria for should not be applied in my opinion.
And given that this a student organisation, it seems common for most of their Wikipedia pages to have little in-depth coverage from reliable sources (see
Conférence Olivaint (which has none),
Bummit and
Film Unit at Sheffield University,
Racing Green Endurance from Imperial,
Institute of Making at UCL,
Children's Holiday Venture at Edinburgh, etc.). It is similar to the other student pages developed from the LSE - see
LSE German Society and
LSE Alternative Investment Conference in terms of the depth of coverage from third party sources. Given the calibre of speakers giving speeches, I believe that the page will attract more news coverage/reliable sources soon. However, for now, perhaps tagging the page with a {*{primary sources|}*} template can alleviate some of your concerns?
Kioj156 (
talk) 01:37, 16 February 2018 (UTC)reply
Keep and improve. Regarding Kioj156's comment on 'calibre of speakers', see
WP:INHERITORG, nevertheless the number and quality of speakers is impressive. Based on the above findings on the wikipedia pages of student organisations, there seems to be a precedent on the standard of sources and notability. The article in question is written in a neutral tone and cites its sources properly so no improvement is needed on this part. I would recommend orienting this page towards it podcast status rather than its club/organisation status or alternatively focus on any demonstrable effects on society or education it may have. However if this page does end up getting removed for the reasons cited by Edwardx, I support the removal of several of the referenced student organisations pages as well.
EmyRussell (
talk) 02:55, 16 February 2018 (UTC)reply
Keep and improve. As EmyRussel said, speakers are relevant & notable, and the article has room for improvement. It is a student organization which might suggest non-notability. Could it be possibly merged with the University website at large?
Lagrime (
talk) 06:44, 18 February 2018 (UTC)reply
Delete - no indication of notability.
Tacyarg (
talk) 22:09, 20 February 2018 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Prev close script error. Keep lack policy basis and fail to address the fundamental delete argument that this lacks sources to demonstrate notability.
SpartazHumbug! 06:23, 23 February 2018 (UTC)reply
No demonstration of notability. Cannot find independent in-depth coverage in reliable sources - lack of
WP:SIGCOV. Only founded in 2016 - fails
WP:SUSTAINED.
Edwardx (
talk) 23:58, 15 February 2018 (UTC)reply
Delete. None of the references in the article are
WP:RS. This comes pretty close to
WP:A7 material. --
RoySmith(talk) 00:54, 16 February 2018 (UTC)reply
Comment Did seriously consider a speedy, but the article looks to have been created in good faith, so thought I'd give people a chance to find better sources. Nonetheless, would be amazed if this does not get deleted.
Edwardx (
talk) 01:02, 16 February 2018 (UTC)reply
Keep. This page acts as both a student organisation page as well as a podcast page. Other podcasts, see
The Greatest Generation (podcast) have not been faced scrutiny for
WP:SUSTAINED, which debuted in roughly the same time remain so the criteria for should not be applied in my opinion.
And given that this a student organisation, it seems common for most of their Wikipedia pages to have little in-depth coverage from reliable sources (see
Conférence Olivaint (which has none),
Bummit and
Film Unit at Sheffield University,
Racing Green Endurance from Imperial,
Institute of Making at UCL,
Children's Holiday Venture at Edinburgh, etc.). It is similar to the other student pages developed from the LSE - see
LSE German Society and
LSE Alternative Investment Conference in terms of the depth of coverage from third party sources. Given the calibre of speakers giving speeches, I believe that the page will attract more news coverage/reliable sources soon. However, for now, perhaps tagging the page with a {*{primary sources|}*} template can alleviate some of your concerns?
Kioj156 (
talk) 01:37, 16 February 2018 (UTC)reply
Keep and improve. Regarding Kioj156's comment on 'calibre of speakers', see
WP:INHERITORG, nevertheless the number and quality of speakers is impressive. Based on the above findings on the wikipedia pages of student organisations, there seems to be a precedent on the standard of sources and notability. The article in question is written in a neutral tone and cites its sources properly so no improvement is needed on this part. I would recommend orienting this page towards it podcast status rather than its club/organisation status or alternatively focus on any demonstrable effects on society or education it may have. However if this page does end up getting removed for the reasons cited by Edwardx, I support the removal of several of the referenced student organisations pages as well.
EmyRussell (
talk) 02:55, 16 February 2018 (UTC)reply
Keep and improve. As EmyRussel said, speakers are relevant & notable, and the article has room for improvement. It is a student organization which might suggest non-notability. Could it be possibly merged with the University website at large?
Lagrime (
talk) 06:44, 18 February 2018 (UTC)reply
Delete - no indication of notability.
Tacyarg (
talk) 22:09, 20 February 2018 (UTC)reply
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