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The result was no consensus. The article has been substantially changed since the nomination and the first half of the AfD. A new nomination would be needed to determine if it still merits deletion. Sandstein 05:54, 8 August 2020 (UTC)reply
Other episodes of drag race (Rusicals S9-12, Makeover S10, Queens behind bars & divas lip sync live) all have the same format and they were not deleted. Why is The B*tchelor & I’m in Love! episodes being considered for deletion? It is just examining the episode in further detail and having all episode info in one place (synopsis, lip sync [including lip stic choice] and queens placement). — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
Isaacwshearer (
talk •
contribs)
20:24, 12 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Draftify. There's coverage out there. Billboardcalled it "One of the Show's Best Challenges Yet"; there's an
in depth review by Vulture; the A.V. Club
stated "Drag Race’s The Bachelor parody is so good it should be its own show"; and
coverage by the New York Times. And those are all notable publications whose coverage is solely about the episode, not just a mention. --
Kbabej (
talk)
19:03, 14 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Keep. We’re well past the point now where every episode of the show is covered worldwide by media outlets including a universe of ancillary shows digesting facets of what happens. This article like the rest easily meets GNG and just needs to be improved,
WP:DINC.
Gleeanon409 (
talk)
01:17, 15 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Comment: Thanks for re-opening this discussion (I, for one, was bothered to see the previous closure to keep). I see an editor has started adding sources to this entry, none of which are specifically about this episode. I still feel strongly about moving this page into draft space until someone is willing to create a page which actually demonstrates notability. ---
Another Believer(
Talk)18:07, 29 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete/redirect No clear purpose of article that duplicates season article. Reality shows can generally maintain the full competition's content in a single place, and there may be other RPDR episodes that can be merged as well
Reywas92Talk18:51, 29 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete - The references in the article are all episode recaps or passing mentions. Episode recaps are routine entertainment news coverage that always appears just after the show airs and does not represent any sort of enduring coverage that would establish notability. A bunch of passing mentions is not even remotely close to significant coverage. --
Whpq (
talk)
14:04, 30 July 2020 (UTC)reply
That seems to be at best an oversimplification of reality. Indeed that metric would wipe out thousands of Good Wikipedia articles on not only television episodes but also books, plays, operas, movies, and all live performances of dance and music which Wikipedia editors have built using exactly these reliable sources.
Gleeanon409 (
talk)
10:59, 31 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Comment, article
WP:Hey re-written, and more than enough sources added fulfilling both GNG, and the stated concern of material simply being repeated from parent articles. The vast majority is now unique only to this episode and article. As I stated previously every episode has much more than run of the mill coverage, that might be unique to this show riding the zeitgeist of minority gender and sexuality discovery.AfD is about determining if a Good article is possible, not if one already exists. Draftifying also amounts to deletion unless and only if someone commits to putting in the work. I found 50-60 sources although more certainly exist. I hope other enjoy reading the article and may see other articles for their similar potential.
Gleeanon409 (
talk)
10:59, 31 July 2020 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was no consensus. The article has been substantially changed since the nomination and the first half of the AfD. A new nomination would be needed to determine if it still merits deletion. Sandstein 05:54, 8 August 2020 (UTC)reply
Other episodes of drag race (Rusicals S9-12, Makeover S10, Queens behind bars & divas lip sync live) all have the same format and they were not deleted. Why is The B*tchelor & I’m in Love! episodes being considered for deletion? It is just examining the episode in further detail and having all episode info in one place (synopsis, lip sync [including lip stic choice] and queens placement). — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
Isaacwshearer (
talk •
contribs)
20:24, 12 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Draftify. There's coverage out there. Billboardcalled it "One of the Show's Best Challenges Yet"; there's an
in depth review by Vulture; the A.V. Club
stated "Drag Race’s The Bachelor parody is so good it should be its own show"; and
coverage by the New York Times. And those are all notable publications whose coverage is solely about the episode, not just a mention. --
Kbabej (
talk)
19:03, 14 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Keep. We’re well past the point now where every episode of the show is covered worldwide by media outlets including a universe of ancillary shows digesting facets of what happens. This article like the rest easily meets GNG and just needs to be improved,
WP:DINC.
Gleeanon409 (
talk)
01:17, 15 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Comment: Thanks for re-opening this discussion (I, for one, was bothered to see the previous closure to keep). I see an editor has started adding sources to this entry, none of which are specifically about this episode. I still feel strongly about moving this page into draft space until someone is willing to create a page which actually demonstrates notability. ---
Another Believer(
Talk)18:07, 29 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete/redirect No clear purpose of article that duplicates season article. Reality shows can generally maintain the full competition's content in a single place, and there may be other RPDR episodes that can be merged as well
Reywas92Talk18:51, 29 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete - The references in the article are all episode recaps or passing mentions. Episode recaps are routine entertainment news coverage that always appears just after the show airs and does not represent any sort of enduring coverage that would establish notability. A bunch of passing mentions is not even remotely close to significant coverage. --
Whpq (
talk)
14:04, 30 July 2020 (UTC)reply
That seems to be at best an oversimplification of reality. Indeed that metric would wipe out thousands of Good Wikipedia articles on not only television episodes but also books, plays, operas, movies, and all live performances of dance and music which Wikipedia editors have built using exactly these reliable sources.
Gleeanon409 (
talk)
10:59, 31 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Comment, article
WP:Hey re-written, and more than enough sources added fulfilling both GNG, and the stated concern of material simply being repeated from parent articles. The vast majority is now unique only to this episode and article. As I stated previously every episode has much more than run of the mill coverage, that might be unique to this show riding the zeitgeist of minority gender and sexuality discovery.AfD is about determining if a Good article is possible, not if one already exists. Draftifying also amounts to deletion unless and only if someone commits to putting in the work. I found 50-60 sources although more certainly exist. I hope other enjoy reading the article and may see other articles for their similar potential.
Gleeanon409 (
talk)
10:59, 31 July 2020 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.