The result was no consensus, defaulting to keep. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 10:26, 17 September 2006 (UTC) reply
Does not meet any of WP:BAND. Not associated with a Label, no articals specifically and only about Terra. Brian ( How am I doing?) 21:06, 11 September 2006 (UTC) reply
our Subject, i'm certain, has SOLD more CDs than American Idol season one runner up...justin guarini and HE was on one of the most MAJOR record companies ever...(also the doors first album was on a VERY small label...ɸɸɸ) so PLEASE don't be so brutal with "the rules" once upon a time in Germany it was "the rules" to kill jews... ya See, youtube is really new media (like wiki, like google) and will be a VERB before the end of next year... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.113.1.106 ( talk • contribs)
Strong Keep
Basically this (sorry long) item places the justification on Terra Naomi being the currently pre-eminent example of an Indie musician exploiting a new "scene" via the medium of YouTube.
First I need to introduce myself by saying I have no connection with Terra Naomi save that I’ve contributed a lot to her message board in the past 2 months. I’ve also been (sort of) been delegated to assemble some points on why Terra Naomi entry merits retention by some members of the board. Note that I'm well aware these things can become personalised, so this is factual.
Of all the factors, the most important is her importance on YouTube. That the full future impact of YouTube and its ilk as major cultural channels has yet to be fully evaluated is undeniable, but the influence is clear to see. If, as I believe, YouTube and the like are considered to be influential and important, then Terra Naomi is undoubtedly the pre-eminent exemplar of Indie music on that medium. It can easily be argued that this qualifies under this condition :-
“Has become the most prominent representative of a notable style or the local scene of a city (or both, as in British hip hop); note that the subject must still meet all ordinary Wikipedia standards, including verifiability.”
(local scene referring to the YouTube community of course).
The facts regarding Terra Naomi’s importance on YouTube are undeniable and verifiable. These include the following
for two months from the early July to early September, Terra Naomi was the most subscribed musical channel on YouTube. Only in the last week since major label involvement on behalf of two other artists has that position been supplanted on the all-time list.
one of Terra Naomi’s 32 videos (Say It’s Possible) has been viewed over 860,00 times alone. On YouTube alone, total views are in the region of two million.
Terra Naomi’s songs have inspired over fifty YouTube “covers” (I’ve lost count after that).
The following are key YouTube stats (as of 13th August 2006)
Of lesser importance, but still worth noting are
Terra Naomi has a strong presence on MySpace, with 800,000 plays (verifiable) and over 21,000 “friends”. This is many more than some more established artists (for example, Katie Melua – the selling female artist in the UK last year has fewer than 8,000). Yes, these can be manipulated, but I’ve not heard of Terra Naomi “polling” anybody.
From stats I’ve assembled from Terra Naomi’s message board, she has an international presence unprecedented at this stage of a career – 53 countries represented in all continents (save Antartica). Evidence of an increasing globalisation through this new medium.
Terra Naomi has a track (Clean) on the Original Motion Picture Soundtrack for Maggie Gyllenhaal film, sherrybaby (released 5th September 2006)
Terra Naomi ha also released (independently) four CDs (ignoring promotions) including
Terra Naomi 2002 Terra Naomi EP Terra Naomi 8 Track Virtually CD
Terra Naomi has toured across the United States on her own, and as a support act to Tyler Hamilton.
I would also add that I have met Terra Naomi at two concerts she gave in London (The Borderline, 26th August 2006 and The Troubadour, 28th August 2006). These are verifiable as I have pictures on Flickr and there is a review of the Troubadour performance on YouTubeTalk. Those watching included two groups who flew in from Italy and one from Germany for the event.
Terra Naomi was in London for talks at the invitation of a record company – details are confidential, and I’m not party to them, but she was accompanied by representatives when I met her.
Steve Jones
a private person wrote:
"How are your 'people got killed for translating the Bible' arguments any less out-of-proportion than the Nazi analogies?!"
the anology is about RULES not reeligion...lol
...yes! Wikipedia HAS rules...and yes! thank god there's ROOM for opinions...
...after TODAY maybe Terra Naomi can be under a different category?
forget about category: BANDS
lets stick T.Naomi into category: "living people" or "American female singers?"
american idol LOSER ... "EJay Day" has a Wikipedia article (EJay is currently a performer on the Royal Caribbean cruise ship Explorer of the Seas (Summer 2006))
american idol LOSER "Julia Megan DeMato" has a Wikipedia article (She was unable to secure a recording contract with an established company, but did record one song, "Let It Rain", with a company called Somme Music - an Internet storefront marketing that one song.)
So...what was the debate again? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.113.1.106 ( talk • contribs)
...(sorry i didn't sign in last time)... john lennon sang, "all i want is the TRUTH..." me too time will tell if ms.Naomi gets voted off Wiki Isle... but could someone tell me... should we... also vote off:
american idol LOSER ... "EJay Day" has a Wikipedia article (EJay is currently a performer on the Royal Caribbean cruise ship Explorer of the Seas (Summer 2006)) american idol LOSER "Julia Megan DeMato" has a Wikipedia article (She was unable to secure a recording contract with an established company, but did record one song, "Let It Rain", with a company called Somme Music - an Internet storefront marketing that one song.)
after TODAY maybe Terra Naomi can be under a different category? forget about category: BANDS lets stick T.Naomi into category: "living people" or "American female singers?" thanks for reading this far...godbless — Preceding unsigned comment added by Energyshelf ( talk • contribs) 69.113.1.106 19:46, 14 September 2006 (UTC) singnature for the ABOVE...is: amidol loser reply
The result was no consensus, defaulting to keep. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 10:26, 17 September 2006 (UTC) reply
Does not meet any of WP:BAND. Not associated with a Label, no articals specifically and only about Terra. Brian ( How am I doing?) 21:06, 11 September 2006 (UTC) reply
our Subject, i'm certain, has SOLD more CDs than American Idol season one runner up...justin guarini and HE was on one of the most MAJOR record companies ever...(also the doors first album was on a VERY small label...ɸɸɸ) so PLEASE don't be so brutal with "the rules" once upon a time in Germany it was "the rules" to kill jews... ya See, youtube is really new media (like wiki, like google) and will be a VERB before the end of next year... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.113.1.106 ( talk • contribs)
Strong Keep
Basically this (sorry long) item places the justification on Terra Naomi being the currently pre-eminent example of an Indie musician exploiting a new "scene" via the medium of YouTube.
First I need to introduce myself by saying I have no connection with Terra Naomi save that I’ve contributed a lot to her message board in the past 2 months. I’ve also been (sort of) been delegated to assemble some points on why Terra Naomi entry merits retention by some members of the board. Note that I'm well aware these things can become personalised, so this is factual.
Of all the factors, the most important is her importance on YouTube. That the full future impact of YouTube and its ilk as major cultural channels has yet to be fully evaluated is undeniable, but the influence is clear to see. If, as I believe, YouTube and the like are considered to be influential and important, then Terra Naomi is undoubtedly the pre-eminent exemplar of Indie music on that medium. It can easily be argued that this qualifies under this condition :-
“Has become the most prominent representative of a notable style or the local scene of a city (or both, as in British hip hop); note that the subject must still meet all ordinary Wikipedia standards, including verifiability.”
(local scene referring to the YouTube community of course).
The facts regarding Terra Naomi’s importance on YouTube are undeniable and verifiable. These include the following
for two months from the early July to early September, Terra Naomi was the most subscribed musical channel on YouTube. Only in the last week since major label involvement on behalf of two other artists has that position been supplanted on the all-time list.
one of Terra Naomi’s 32 videos (Say It’s Possible) has been viewed over 860,00 times alone. On YouTube alone, total views are in the region of two million.
Terra Naomi’s songs have inspired over fifty YouTube “covers” (I’ve lost count after that).
The following are key YouTube stats (as of 13th August 2006)
Of lesser importance, but still worth noting are
Terra Naomi has a strong presence on MySpace, with 800,000 plays (verifiable) and over 21,000 “friends”. This is many more than some more established artists (for example, Katie Melua – the selling female artist in the UK last year has fewer than 8,000). Yes, these can be manipulated, but I’ve not heard of Terra Naomi “polling” anybody.
From stats I’ve assembled from Terra Naomi’s message board, she has an international presence unprecedented at this stage of a career – 53 countries represented in all continents (save Antartica). Evidence of an increasing globalisation through this new medium.
Terra Naomi has a track (Clean) on the Original Motion Picture Soundtrack for Maggie Gyllenhaal film, sherrybaby (released 5th September 2006)
Terra Naomi ha also released (independently) four CDs (ignoring promotions) including
Terra Naomi 2002 Terra Naomi EP Terra Naomi 8 Track Virtually CD
Terra Naomi has toured across the United States on her own, and as a support act to Tyler Hamilton.
I would also add that I have met Terra Naomi at two concerts she gave in London (The Borderline, 26th August 2006 and The Troubadour, 28th August 2006). These are verifiable as I have pictures on Flickr and there is a review of the Troubadour performance on YouTubeTalk. Those watching included two groups who flew in from Italy and one from Germany for the event.
Terra Naomi was in London for talks at the invitation of a record company – details are confidential, and I’m not party to them, but she was accompanied by representatives when I met her.
Steve Jones
a private person wrote:
"How are your 'people got killed for translating the Bible' arguments any less out-of-proportion than the Nazi analogies?!"
the anology is about RULES not reeligion...lol
...yes! Wikipedia HAS rules...and yes! thank god there's ROOM for opinions...
...after TODAY maybe Terra Naomi can be under a different category?
forget about category: BANDS
lets stick T.Naomi into category: "living people" or "American female singers?"
american idol LOSER ... "EJay Day" has a Wikipedia article (EJay is currently a performer on the Royal Caribbean cruise ship Explorer of the Seas (Summer 2006))
american idol LOSER "Julia Megan DeMato" has a Wikipedia article (She was unable to secure a recording contract with an established company, but did record one song, "Let It Rain", with a company called Somme Music - an Internet storefront marketing that one song.)
So...what was the debate again? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.113.1.106 ( talk • contribs)
...(sorry i didn't sign in last time)... john lennon sang, "all i want is the TRUTH..." me too time will tell if ms.Naomi gets voted off Wiki Isle... but could someone tell me... should we... also vote off:
american idol LOSER ... "EJay Day" has a Wikipedia article (EJay is currently a performer on the Royal Caribbean cruise ship Explorer of the Seas (Summer 2006)) american idol LOSER "Julia Megan DeMato" has a Wikipedia article (She was unable to secure a recording contract with an established company, but did record one song, "Let It Rain", with a company called Somme Music - an Internet storefront marketing that one song.)
after TODAY maybe Terra Naomi can be under a different category? forget about category: BANDS lets stick T.Naomi into category: "living people" or "American female singers?" thanks for reading this far...godbless — Preceding unsigned comment added by Energyshelf ( talk • contribs) 69.113.1.106 19:46, 14 September 2006 (UTC) singnature for the ABOVE...is: amidol loser reply