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The result was keep. Sole delete argument refuted. (non-admin closure) J947 † edits 02:54, 5 July 2023 (UTC)
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NN single. Fails WP:ALBUM. UtherSRG (talk) 16:30, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Albums and songs and Japan. UtherSRG (talk) 16:30, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
- The single went to #15 in the national Oricon chart in Japan in 2007, per
Oricon, so this does pass the requirements of
WP:NALBUM. Direct coverage (including interpretation of the composition and discussion of the commercial indicated in the article) includes
this and
this. I'm sure there is more out there, so inclined to keep.
Dekimasu
よ!
01:10, 14 June 2023 (UTC)
- The song went to #15. The single is distinct from the song. -
UtherSRG
(talk)
10:59, 14 June 2023 (UTC)
- Well, Oricon does not distinguish between the song and the single. The normal version of the song and an instrumental version of the same song were the entirety of the single, and this was before songs were generally being sold alone online in Japan. If you want the article to be edited so that it is made clear what satisfies WP:NALBUM/ WP:NSONG, that doesn't seem like a problem. As far as the deletion discussion is concerned this seems like a distinction without a difference. Dekimasu よ! 12:03, 14 June 2023 (UTC)
- The song went to #15. The single is distinct from the song. -
UtherSRG
(talk)
10:59, 14 June 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Extraordinary Writ ( talk) 21:25, 20 June 2023 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 21:26, 27 June 2023 (UTC)
- Keep per Dekimasu's analysis above. Also, Oricon introduced its digital sales charts only in 2017 and the combined chart (which sums digital and physical sales) in 2018, i.e. the 2007 charting only belongs to physical sales, i.e. the single. -- Cavarrone 07:03, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
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The result was keep. Sole delete argument refuted. (non-admin closure) J947 † edits 02:54, 5 July 2023 (UTC)
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NN single. Fails WP:ALBUM. UtherSRG (talk) 16:30, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Albums and songs and Japan. UtherSRG (talk) 16:30, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
- The single went to #15 in the national Oricon chart in Japan in 2007, per
Oricon, so this does pass the requirements of
WP:NALBUM. Direct coverage (including interpretation of the composition and discussion of the commercial indicated in the article) includes
this and
this. I'm sure there is more out there, so inclined to keep.
Dekimasu
よ!
01:10, 14 June 2023 (UTC)
- The song went to #15. The single is distinct from the song. -
UtherSRG
(talk)
10:59, 14 June 2023 (UTC)
- Well, Oricon does not distinguish between the song and the single. The normal version of the song and an instrumental version of the same song were the entirety of the single, and this was before songs were generally being sold alone online in Japan. If you want the article to be edited so that it is made clear what satisfies WP:NALBUM/ WP:NSONG, that doesn't seem like a problem. As far as the deletion discussion is concerned this seems like a distinction without a difference. Dekimasu よ! 12:03, 14 June 2023 (UTC)
- The song went to #15. The single is distinct from the song. -
UtherSRG
(talk)
10:59, 14 June 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Extraordinary Writ ( talk) 21:25, 20 June 2023 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 21:26, 27 June 2023 (UTC)
- Keep per Dekimasu's analysis above. Also, Oricon introduced its digital sales charts only in 2017 and the combined chart (which sums digital and physical sales) in 2018, i.e. the 2007 charting only belongs to physical sales, i.e. the single. -- Cavarrone 07:03, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
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